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legendary
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September 29, 2013, 09:44:06 PM
#86
I am not saying it can never work just that it doesnt work now the guys at ripple are working on some innovations that may make it viable.

I think this is the root of the problem in early human civilization trade was simple because you knew the history and reputation of the people that you traded with, but as civilizations grew the desire to trade outside of your trust network grew. So the need for middlemen and financial institutions came about. The problem is those institutions have siphoned off the productive efforts of their citizens or customers and have grown so powerful because of their privilege and have created a world dominated and control at gun point giving us ever growing police states and to big to fail banks that no longer work for us but that we work for.

So the challenge as I see it is to recreate early civilization. We have a technology that can enable the entire world to know each others reputation. We can know the character of every man women and child on the planet. I will gladly trade without institutions or the protection of the state if i can know who I am dealing with. So far the reputation centers around bitcoin all start from scratch, We need a reputaion center that allows you to import trust from other areas of life, I think the guys at ripple are working on that.        
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
September 29, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
#85
I am shocked that it is too, but we are having philosophical conversation about why bitcoin is not suitable in its current state


To the little cock sucker a couple post up. This is just some of the highlights of my life, No one has done much of anything for me and I am no pussy. This is off a different thread.  

  "Ya right I havent been around dude you have no Idea what you are talking about. I have more life experience than you almost guaranteed my life has been a trip.  

Short list--

Spent almost 2 years on tour with widespreadpanic
Spent 5 months in prison
taken every hallucinogen know to man
was in a fatal car accident where my girl friend was killed
Owned several business
watched my uncle die from pancreatic cancer
was an auto tech for 9 years
sunk my boat and had a 18 hour swim to shore
traveled the south east on the north florida shroom guide
am an ammature mycologist
been living on my own since 17
live through hurrican katrina right on the gulf cost the eye pasted over me
Am married with a son
was on probation for 6 years
have two felony convictions
have lived in both rural and urban communities
have paid over 100k to the state for various reasons
Sold 480 thousand dollars worth of weed in 3 months
Have carried over 100k in usd took 5 hours betwwen 2 people just to count
And much more.

I have been around"

So suck my dick faggot!

Had to quote this.

Edit:  Have you heard of something called 'risk assessment'?
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 09:23:19 PM
#84
I am shocked that it is too, but we are having philosophical conversation about why bitcoin is not suitable in its current state


To the little cock sucker a couple post up. This is just some of the highlights of my life, No one has done much of anything for me and I am no pussy. This is off a different thread.  

  "Ya right I havent been around dude you have no Idea what you are talking about. I have more life experience than you almost guaranteed my life has been a trip.  

Short list--

Spent almost 2 years on tour with widespreadpanic
Spent 5 months in prison
taken every hallucinogen know to man
was in a fatal car accident where my girl friend was killed
Owned several business
watched my uncle die from pancreatic cancer
was an auto tech for 9 years
sunk my boat and had a 18 hour swim to shore
traveled the south east on the north florida shroom guide
am an ammature mycologist
been living on my own since 17
live through hurrican katrina right on the gulf cost the eye pasted over me
Am married with a son
was on probation for 6 years
have two felony convictions
have lived in both rural and urban communities
have paid over 100k to the state for various reasons
Sold 480 thousand dollars worth of weed in 3 months
Have carried over 100k in usd took 5 hours betwwen 2 people just to count
And much more.

I have been around"

So suck my dick faggot!
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 29, 2013, 09:17:42 PM
#83
Why's this thread still going?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 09:17:33 PM
#82
You obviously have not been following along I dont care about 1.4 BTC 
legendary
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Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 09:15:59 PM
#81
You might as well be arguing, "why bother having a deadbolt or a security system in your house. One lock should be enough, and if it isn't then the police should protect you."

I dont lock doors in my cars or home. I dont want to live in a world that it is necessary and it offers no protection, that is just the illusion of safety. Trusted finacial institutions dont offer true security either they steal from me all the time too that is what feedback is all about the best indication of future behavior is past behavior.

We are lucky if we wake up tomorrow. Safety is a illusion, but there are acceptable risk and unacceptable ones   

after reading further , i find you to be a pathetic excuse for a grown up ........actually how old are you im guessing 17-18 , take responsibility for your life . not locking doors everyone doing everything for you , serious you sound like a fucking PUSSY get over your self man !!!!!!! lifes tuff if you think getting skanked 1.4 bitcoins is bad you wouldn't last 2 seconds in my shoes pal you would be eaten alive !!!!!!!!!!!!!

To the rest of the forum users im sorry for this out burst i just think this guy is Pathetic and someone should point that out!!!

oh look another internet tough guy
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 29, 2013, 09:07:25 PM
#80
You might as well be arguing, "why bother having a deadbolt or a security system in your house. One lock should be enough, and if it isn't then the police should protect you."

I dont lock doors in my cars or home. I dont want to live in a world that it is necessary and it offers no protection, that is just the illusion of safety. Trusted finacial institutions dont offer true security either they steal from me all the time too that is what feedback is all about the best indication of future behavior is past behavior.

We are lucky if we wake up tomorrow. Safety is a illusion, but there are acceptable risk and unacceptable ones   

after reading further , i find you to be a pathetic excuse for a grown up ........actually how old are you im guessing 17-18 , take responsibility for your life . not locking doors everyone doing everything for you , serious you sound like a fucking PUSSY get over your self man !!!!!!! lifes tuff if you think getting skanked 1.4 bitcoins is bad you wouldn't last 2 seconds in my shoes pal you would be eaten alive !!!!!!!!!!!!!

To the rest of the forum users im sorry for this out burst i just think this guy is Pathetic and someone should point that out!!!
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 29, 2013, 09:00:57 PM
#79
I strongly suggest you download install and run this. 

http://www.safer-networking.org/mirrors16/

Sounds like a hassle. Someone else can worry about it. It is their job to protect my accounts if someone steals it is their job to get the money back to me. I am a user it is for tech nerds to prevent this shit from happening. I dont care and I shouldnt have to care. I hate tech shit this is my dads company http://www.norlinx.com/ he is a computer engineer that writes software to manage data centers. He tortured me with programming when I was a kid. I dont like it and couldnt care less about it. I am a user i dont care about the details. I put my efforts in other places.   

im sorry that someone stole 1.4 bitcoins off you but serious if you dont care so much what ya doing writing in here? shut the fuck up and man up boy its just 1.4 bitcoins. 3 days ago i was talking to someone who lost 19.6 bitcoins in the same way as you!! so far its all down to blockchain.org everyone who goes there get fucking robbed !!!

 stop whingeing 1.4 , they guy who lost 19 didn't winge as much as you, and you know what people actually helped him because he was nice about his situation !!!!
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 08:28:24 PM
#78
You might as well be arguing, "why bother having a deadbolt or a security system in your house. One lock should be enough, and if it isn't then the police should protect you."

I dont lock doors in my cars or home. I dont want to live in a world that it is necessary and it offers no protection, that is just the illusion of safety. Trusted finacial institutions dont offer true security either they steal from me all the time too that is what feedback is all about the best indication of future behavior is past behavior.

We are lucky if we wake up tomorrow. Safety is a illusion, but there are acceptable risk and unacceptable ones   
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 08:13:56 PM
#77
When I can say hey mom go to this site an get a wallet and know she will be safe and that she will be able to move funds around the internet and can get money into and out of the system easily without going to the bank then I will support it again until then I am out. I already took the bitcoin sticker off my car.  

That exact service may exist some day soon or not-so-soon. It will have fees (visible or hidden). It will also remove the benefits of decentralization. You are going to have to trust that service provider to protect you. You are going to have to comply with the various laws which exist for those types of services. This means you are going to have to trust your government (or the government of the service provider) as well.

Again, due to Bitcoin's decentralized nature, it is up to each user to protect themselves.

In fact, this is true for most things in life, regardless of how many safety nets seem to be in place.

It looks like you want your cake (freedom) and want to eat it too (no responsibility). Life doesn't work like that and neither does Bitcoin. They never will.

"That exact service may exist some day soon or not-so-soon. It will have fees (visible or hidden)."

Not so-soon. Bitcoin has massive hidden fees the extremely high rates of theft and visible mining fees. I can load currency into paypal send it any where in the world for free, but I have to take the risk in that transaction

"or the government of the service provider"

You are talking about the need for escrow that will always exist.


Yes I want my cake and eat it too. I want a currency that i can use anonymously if I choose and if i choose transparently.

I want one that that I can send to people I trust any where in the world where I bear the risk and one where I can be protected


"Again, due to Bitcoin's decentralized nature, it is up to each user to protect themselves."

For now.

 "In fact, this is true for most things in life, regardless of how many safety nets seem to be in place."

Absolute security does not exist, but there are acceptable risk and unacceptable ones.  

"It looks like you want your cake (freedom) and want to eat it too (no responsibility). Life doesn't work like that and neither does Bitcoin. They never will."

No I want options I want the option to engage in completely free trade P2P at my own risk or the option to trade transparently in a protected environment. It is a trade off

It doent require government regulation to achieve what I desire.
 
vip
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Merit: 1043
👻
September 29, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
#76
I strongly suggest you download install and run this.  

http://www.safer-networking.org/mirrors16/

And in addition for removal (not prevention), I recommend HijackThis:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hjt/

Sublime, you've probably been a victim of a drive-by trojan. If you really want to watch adult content on your computer, just turn off Java and Flash in Chrome or Firefox before fapping.

http://www.uproxx.com/technology/2013/07/church-websites-are-three-times-more-likely-to-give-you-a-virus-than-porn-sites/

Reinstall your OS.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
September 29, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
#75
I strongly suggest you download install and run this.  

http://www.safer-networking.org/mirrors16/

And in addition for removal (not prevention), I recommend HijackThis:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hjt/

Sublime, you've probably been a victim of a drive-by trojan. If you really want to watch adult content on your computer, just turn off Java and Flash in Chrome or Firefox before fapping.
full member
Activity: 175
Merit: 100
September 29, 2013, 06:08:43 PM
#74
You might as well be arguing, "why bother having a deadbolt or a security system in your house. One lock should be enough, and if it isn't then the police should protect you."
full member
Activity: 175
Merit: 100
September 29, 2013, 06:04:41 PM
#73
It looks like you want your cake (freedom) and want to eat it too (no responsibility). Life doesn't work like that and neither does Bitcoin. They never will.

Agreed, in order for bitcoin to become what you want it to become sublime, it would have to give up all of its advantages over conventional currency.

When I can say hey mom go to this site an get a wallet and know she will be safe and that she will be able to move funds around the internet and can get money into and out of the system easily without going to the bank then I will support it again until then I am out. I already took the bitcoin sticker off my car.   

If you change that to, "hey mom go to this site and get a wallet and set up two-factor authentication," then she would be safe. SMS or GAuth 2FA would have protected your funds. When the hacker tried to log on to your wallet, it would've either sent a code to your cell phone or required an authentication code to be entered before it would've permitted him access. This goes back to separation of devices since without access to your phone no key-logger in existence would be able to overcome 2FA.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 05:20:22 PM
#72
My mistake I used poor wording. You are correct, my point is the only real market in bitcoin is the silkroad and they use blockchain price which happens to reflect bitstamp price for now it was mt gox.

So the only real market place with any volume at all uses blockchain.info's price. It is the face of bitcoin.

"transact out in the open" transparent as in with your real world identity associated with it.

"There are also many "feedback mechanisms""  I should be able to rate an address. If people could rate addresses then when some one stole you would know it.
I had a guy a couple weeks ago steal on otc and sell to me here. I do not like buying stolen coins.

I wouldn't say poor, more like confusing. You keep saying market, which most people would assume to mean a bitcoin exchange (see: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/). However you seem to be using the word to refer to "markets" that accept bitcoin, of which you are correct in that SilkRoad is probably the largest in terms of volume. However Bitmit is also quite large, and they offer several price options for a seller to use when listing items in USD: Bitstamp, Mt.Gox (24-hr and last), and something they call bitcoinaverage which I assume to be a composite figure.

Furthermore, Blockchain.info seems to use the Mt.Gox weighted average, so saying that SilkRoad uses the Blockchain.info price, which in turn uses the Mt.Gox weighted average is a misrepresentation of the facts, even if for some reason SilkRoad actually retrieves their price from the Blockchain.info site.

Bottom line is, you're giving Blockchain.info far too much credit, and by extension too much culpability.

I've never had any dealings with you before, but from what I can tell you seem to be a valued member of the bitcoin community (or at least the bitcointalk.com community), and provide a beneficial service. I realize such a loss can be greatly discouraging, but don't let it drive you away from bitcoin as a whole. From what you have learned if this thread you should be able to prevent this from happening again if you decided to stick with it.

As for the list you posted, all of those items look disconcerting, with the exception of maybe the Ask Toolbar.

A virus scan may help clean up your computer, but no anti-virus software is perfect, and in the end it will be up to your to educate and protect yourself from malicious software, or as someone else suggested relegate different tasks to different devices. From personal experience I can tell you: knowledge is power. I haven't used anti-virus software regularly for the past decade; I download something every so often to scan my computer, but always end up not finding anything. When people ask me what anti-virus software I use, I laugh and say, "I don't download viruses."


Ya I need to be saying market place.

Guys this hack and theft are small time. I have had 2 k in charge backs, I am not quitting because of this hack i am quitting because i believe this wont work the way it is currently set up it has to be better than this.

I sold 80k worth of coin all p2p with paypal I know it is a profitable business that can be insured.   

There has to be a better system

When I can say hey mom go to this site an get a wallet and know she will be safe and that she will be able to move funds around the internet and can get money into and out of the system easily without going to the bank then I will support it again until then I am out. I already took the bitcoin sticker off my car.   
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
#71
Relax brother i dont advocate for regulation by the government, I advocate for the regulation of the market and no one can escape market forces.

Me sitting here saying I am gonna vote with my feet, because the system works poorly is imposing market forces.

Some one will come out with a wallet that allows everyone who uses it to rate wallet address and has a Id verification system and maybe builds a business model that can offer insurance for digital transactions for debit card and credit card and paypal.

But to get rid of institutions like banks or make them to small to care about there has to be a huge trust network someone is gonna have to figure a way for people to import trust into bitcoin.
  
full member
Activity: 175
Merit: 100
September 29, 2013, 04:53:40 PM
#70
My mistake I used poor wording. You are correct, my point is the only real market in bitcoin is the silkroad and they use blockchain price which happens to reflect bitstamp price for now it was mt gox.

So the only real market place with any volume at all uses blockchain.info's price. It is the face of bitcoin.

"transact out in the open" transparent as in with your real world identity associated with it.

"There are also many "feedback mechanisms""  I should be able to rate an address. If people could rate addresses then when some one stole you would know it.
I had a guy a couple weeks ago steal on otc and sell to me here. I do not like buying stolen coins.

I wouldn't say poor, more like confusing. You keep saying market, which most people would assume to mean a bitcoin exchange (see: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/). However you seem to be using the word to refer to "markets" that accept bitcoin, of which you are correct in that SilkRoad is probably the largest in terms of volume. However Bitmit is also quite large, and they offer several price options for a seller to use when listing items in USD: Bitstamp, Mt.Gox (24-hr and last), and something they call bitcoinaverage which I assume to be a composite figure.

Furthermore, Blockchain.info seems to use the Mt.Gox weighted average, so saying that SilkRoad uses the Blockchain.info price, which in turn uses the Mt.Gox weighted average is a misrepresentation of the facts, even if for some reason SilkRoad actually retrieves their price from the Blockchain.info site.

Bottom line is, you're giving Blockchain.info far too much credit, and by extension too much culpability.

I've never had any dealings with you before, but from what I can tell you seem to be a valued member of the bitcoin community (or at least the bitcointalk.com community), and provide a beneficial service. I realize such a loss can be greatly discouraging, but don't let it drive you away from bitcoin as a whole. From what you have learned if this thread you should be able to prevent this from happening again if you decided to stick with it.

As for the list you posted, all of those items look disconcerting, with the exception of maybe the Ask Toolbar.

A virus scan may help clean up your computer, but no anti-virus software is perfect, and in the end it will be up to your to educate and protect yourself from malicious software, or as someone else suggested relegate different tasks to different devices. From personal experience I can tell you: knowledge is power. I haven't used anti-virus software regularly for the past decade; I download something every so often to scan my computer, but always end up not finding anything. When people ask me what anti-virus software I use, I laugh and say, "I don't download viruses."
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
#69
Either of you guys see any thing that looks like a key logger a few post up? 



Google is a good

Cell phone Companies have been rapping us all for a long time. I personally think they want to force people to have 2 plans and 2 bills. I dont need two bills just 2 phones, i could add as many lines as I wanted when we were hard wired.   
hero member
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Techwolf on #bitcoin and Reddit
September 29, 2013, 03:45:25 PM
#68
Every time I deal with tech guys I tell them what I want to do and they tell me why it cant happen. Like I want 2 cell phones with the same number and the guys at best buy just want to tell me why it cant happen.

Your solution and the typical answers around here are always such bullshit. I say what I want and you tell me that i need to have 2 separate computers. That is not an acceptable answer. It is always that i should switch around my behavior to accommodate the system.

For some reason the cell-phone example bugs me. There are sound technical reasons cellphones can't share a phone-number. It sounds like you want the phones to work like the extension lines at your home. This is possible, but you won't like the hoops you have to jump though to get there.

The phone number is used for call routing. If you insist on using the same number for two different phones, you will need to set up out-of-band call routing. The phone companies will likely insist on assigning numbers to those phones regardless (otherwise it will not work, unless you find wifi). What you can do is set up a VOIP gateway at your home and have a VOIP client on your cell-phones. You would then have the VOIP software ring your phone whenever somebody calls your home phone. I have not tried this myself yet; it is possible that cell-phone providers block VOIP. If somebody wants to call your VOIP cell from home, they would need to use a VOIP phone since you refuse to use the assigned phone-number.



It is ridiculous how long have cell phones been around? I want a phone for the shop and a phone for the house. You would think I ask to put a man on the moon. I know it can be done. I dont want to hear the stupid ass excuses for why it cant happen that is garbage.

I would love it if my wife and I both had phones with the same number, I cant be the only one.   



Google Voice can do this, but setting it up is somewhat complicated.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2013, 03:23:06 PM
#67
Every time I deal with tech guys I tell them what I want to do and they tell me why it cant happen. Like I want 2 cell phones with the same number and the guys at best buy just want to tell me why it cant happen.

Your solution and the typical answers around here are always such bullshit. I say what I want and you tell me that i need to have 2 separate computers. That is not an acceptable answer. It is always that i should switch around my behavior to accommodate the system.

For some reason the cell-phone example bugs me. There are sound technical reasons cellphones can't share a phone-number. It sounds like you want the phones to work like the extension lines at your home. This is possible, but you won't like the hoops you have to jump though to get there.

The phone number is used for call routing. If you insist on using the same number for two different phones, you will need to set up out-of-band call routing. The phone companies will likely insist on assigning numbers to those phones regardless (otherwise it will not work, unless you find wifi). What you can do is set up a VOIP gateway at your home and have a VOIP client on your cell-phones. You would then have the VOIP software ring your phone whenever somebody calls your home phone. I have not tried this myself yet; it is possible that cell-phone providers block VOIP. If somebody wants to call your VOIP cell from home, they would need to use a VOIP phone since you refuse to use the assigned phone-number.



It is ridiculous how long have cell phones been around? I want a phone for the shop and a phone for the house. You would think I ask to put a man on the moon. I know it can be done. I dont want to hear the stupid ass excuses for why it cant happen that is garbage.

I would love it if my wife and I both had phones with the same number, I cant be the only one.  

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