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Topic: Speculation: New Trezor Product Coming on 14 June (Read 1016 times)

legendary
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That is a great plan for those that live close enough.
There are many Saturn and Mediamarkt outlets all across Germany. Their shops operate in Austria and Switzerland as well, but Trezor's announcement doesn't mention those countries. They only mentioned Germany. A similar partnership exists with BestBuy in the United States.
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Trezor has partnered with new electronics stores in Germany and the Netherlands, which is good news for those who prefer to buy hardware wallets and crypto gear in physical shops and not leave a digital trace.

Buyers in Germany can now buy Trezors in Saturn and Mediamarkt.
Buyers from the Netherlands can purchase their devices in Coolblue.



That is a great plan for those that live close enough.  I own multiple Trezors that don't come back to me digitally, but it was not effortless to make that the case.
legendary
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Trezor has partnered with new electronics stores in Germany and the Netherlands, which is good news for those who prefer to buy hardware wallets and crypto gear in physical shops and not leave a digital trace.

Buyers in Germany can now buy Trezors in Saturn and Mediamarkt.
Buyers from the Netherlands can purchase their devices in Coolblue.
legendary
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Those who like to participate in competitions and giveaways and are active on Twitter (X) can win one out of three Trezor Safe 5 hardware wallets.
Read this post for the instructions on how to participate!

It's pretty simple. You will have to:
- Follow two Twitter profiles (one is the official Trezor Twitter profile).
- Pick two articles from the second profile, link to them, and write a unique comment why you like them.
- Repost the giveaway post.

Two winners will be picked randomly, the third will be the post that gets the most number of likes.
legendary
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To me it would make perfect sense to buy a protecting case like ons of those ones for the Trezor Safe 5, compared to the rest of the products of Satoshilabs, it is an expensive product and it is wise to protect it from scratches and falls, specially if holds an important amount of money.
The protective cover doesn't offer extra protection for the screen. It's only for the back cover and the sides. The screen itself protects against scratches and other damages thanks to Gorilla Glass protection.
Experience using smartphones with Gorilla Glass suggests that this is not a 100% way to protect against scratches and other damage. Even if the device is not used daily and as often as a smartphone, the device's screen may still be vulnerable to scratches. Screen protectors can help here.

As a side note, I am the kind of person who does not like when a device like a phone or a watch starts to get scratches.  Sad
I understand, but aesthetics are not as important as the functionality of this device. In the case of hardware wallets, you will be least concerned about the appearance if the device suddenly stops working. Smiley
legendary
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To me it would make perfect sense to buy a protecting case like ons of those ones for the Trezor Safe 5, compared to the rest of the products of Satoshilabs, it is an expensive product and it is wise to protect it from scratches and falls, specially if holds an important amount of money.
The protective cover doesn't offer extra protection for the screen. It's only for the back cover and the sides. The screen itself protects against scratches and other damages thanks to Gorilla Glass protection.

In that idea in mind, it would also make sense to get some crypto steel from the Trezor store together in a bundle with the Trezor Safe 5, so both the expensive device and the important seed phrase can be both protected from damage.
Paying extra to protect your seed makes more sense if you ask me. A steel plate or steel washers are both good solutions if you don't want plain old paper backups.
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Trezor has just released protective covers that they call bumpers for Trezor Safe 5. They are supposed to protect your hardware wallets from damage and scratches. It's not something I would personally buy, but if you have a tendency to drop stuff, maybe you'll find them useful. You can use your Safe 5 and its touchscreen with the bumpers on as they protect the back and the sides.

They are made of TPU, which is a kind of plastic with rubber-like elastic properties. A bumper costs €10, and it's available in 4 different colors: transparent, orange, green, and violet. You can purchase them from the official shop.




To me it would make perfect sense to buy a protecting case like ons of those ones for the Trezor Safe 5, compared to the rest of the products of Satoshilabs, it is an expensive product and it is wise to protect it from scratches and falls, specially if holds an important amount of money. In that idea in mind, it would also make sense to get some crypto steel from the Trezor store together in a bundle with the Trezor Safe 5, so both the expensive device and the important seed phrase can be both protected from damage.

As a side note, I am the kind of person who does not like when a device like a phone or a watch starts to get scratches.  Sad
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I am not wasting my time answering anything to scammers like kruw.

"Scammer"? What did I do to scam?
legendary
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Trezor has just released protective covers that they call bumpers for Trezor Safe 5. They are supposed to protect your hardware wallets from damage and scratches. It's not something I would personally buy, but if you have a tendency to drop stuff, maybe you'll find them useful. You can use your Safe 5 and its touchscreen with the bumpers on as they protect the back and the sides.
Not to expensive but I think this is a waste of money for this device, especially since this is made from cheap TPU.
Trezor Safe 5 already has GorillaGlass protection for screen and nobody really cares about scratches on case.
If someone really wants additional protection than it's not hat hard to 3d print your own case protection for all Trezor devices.
legendary
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Trezor has just released protective covers that they call bumpers for Trezor Safe 5. They are supposed to protect your hardware wallets from damage and scratches. It's not something I would personally buy, but if you have a tendency to drop stuff, maybe you'll find them useful. You can use your Safe 5 and its touchscreen with the bumpers on as they protect the back and the sides.

They are made of TPU, which is a kind of plastic with rubber-like elastic properties. A bumper costs €10, and it's available in 4 different colors: transparent, orange, green, and violet. You can purchase them from the official shop.


legendary
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Obviously, if you have enough SLIP39 shards, you can recover the wallet, unless... see above.
It's interesting that Trezor developers invented both Bip39 and Slip39 backup method and they are claiming that Slip39 is improved and safer way to store seed words.
That is why all new Trezor devices are coming out from factory with Slip39 backup as standard, and other wallets are slowly accepting this.

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I am not wasting my time answering anything to scammers like kruw.
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What makes SLIP39 more secure than BIP39?
Any set of shards below the minimum required number of shards for recovery don't reveal anything about the underlying secret.

This wouldn't be the case if you split recovery words of a particular BIP39 wallet. Every split part would reveal a certain number of words. The whole set of words of course allow to recover the full wallet, unless an optional mnemonic passphrase has been used or some weird lengthy non-standard derivation path.

Obviously, if you have enough SLIP39 shards, you can recover the wallet, unless... see above.
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For Trezor Safe 3, and other new models, secure element is a big security improvement for and it is even more secure with new Slip39 recovery method.

What makes SLIP39 more secure than BIP39?
legendary
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Perhaps it is just me, but I still find myself to be fond of the classical model Trezor One, it just feels more discreet and less luxurious than it's predecessors, I don't know.
There is no difference in discreetness between Trezor One and newly released Trezor models, and there is a good chance Model One stops production in near future.
For Trezor Safe 3, and other new models, secure element is a big security improvement for and it is even more secure with new Slip39 recovery method.

Some months ago I was considering to get the Trezor Safe 3, because it kind of an evolution of the original Trezor one, but in retrospective if I am only into BTC and do not plan to get money into Montero or Cardano, there is no reason to spend an extra.
No idea what Montero is, but there are many reasons I mentioned above for Trezor 3 Safe.

legendary
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For 169 I think I can build myself a pretty quick Computer that can hold Full Nodes for a few Cryptocurrencies too.  I really believe any Hardware Wallet over 100 is an over reach unless you carry it around often and need it for portability.
That's because you prioritize other things rather than convenience, portability, and ease of use. If you want more privacy and control, you'll have to invest more time in your setup to build something that suits your particular needs. But for those who prefer a quicker way to engage with crypto and don't mind giving up some of their privacy, hardware wallets are a preferable choice. 
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I think they increased the Price from model to model, have they not?

There's an exception, the Safe 3 came out after the Model T but is much cheaper. The touchscreen design of the Safe 5 appears to be the successor to the Model T while the 2 button design of the Safe 3 appears to be the successor to the Model One.
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I do not even know how I missed this Thread.  169 is kind of much for this in my opinion.  Does anybody feel like the new features are worth the expensiveness?

I think they increased the Price from model to model, have they not?  It almost feels like Apple reading this.  The device looks nice and all, but hell.  For 169 I think I can build myself a pretty quick Computer that can hold Full Nodes for a few Cryptocurrencies too.  I really believe any Hardware Wallet over 100 is an over reach unless you carry it around often and need it for portability.
legendary
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I had not thought about the possibility of Satoshilabs sunsetting the firmware update for the original Trezor One model and only focussing in the newest versions, to be honest. If it happens, it could be obviously be translated onto a lack of security for those who are left behind...  Sad
It won't necessarily make the older hardware wallets and software insecure and vulnerable. That would only happen if Trezor or some white/blackhat hacker finds serious vulnerabilities with those models. If that doesn't happen, your security won't decrease. But you won't be able to take advantage of new features and options and the developers would stop bettering the code for the older devices to make it function more efficiently. With all that said, it's always better to have a device that the company still supports with new updates.
legendary
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Thanks for your replies, I guess paying for some extra features in the Trezor model 3 could be worth it. I had not thought about the possibility of Satoshilabs sunsetting the firmware update for the original Trezor One model and only focussing in the newest versions, to be honest. If it happens, it could be obviously be translated onto a lack of security for those who are left behind...  Sad

I makes me wonder who much time Trezor Model one and Trezo model T have left in the market before they stop getting updates... Satoshilabs seems to be still quite proud of their original Hardware wallet, so they are less likely to sunsetting it soon, but there will be a time which is no longer sustainable for them to continue to produce them and sell them, unless they algo increase its price slightly.
legendary
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Do you believe having a secure element within the device is a must or it would be solved by having a strong enough passphrase and adding ones recovery seed well enough?
The latter part provides better protection if you know how to use it properly [refer to the very end of "this page"], but I wouldn't mind having another layer of protection [SE].

Some months ago I was considering to get the Trezor Safe 3, because it kind of an evolution of the original Trezor one, but in retrospective if I am only into BTC and do not plan to get money into Montero or Cardano, there is no reason to spend an extra.
Even if none of the differences that Pmalek mentioned earlier existed, I would've still paid the $20 difference between the devices in question to get almost another decade of firmware updates.
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