Topic: Spending and Receiving Stolen Coins. - page 4. (Read 8056 times)
Since when bitcoin is cash?
To the people who were unaware they were receiving stolen Bitcoins, they would not face any charge.
"Mr. judge, I was unaware the lady in question was only 15 years old..." - "Well then you won't face any charge of course!"
You would make a nice policeman!
Seriously, the whole thread here is a joke/perfect example how to spread FUD.
If you KNOW you're accepting stolen cash, you're guilty of a crime.
It's a crime according to who? When did I agree this is a crime? Stop imposing your fantasy world of monopolies on violence and the laws of a group of people that call themselves the government on me, KTHXBYE.
How does it work with cash? Like with any stolen goods? If you KNOW you're accepting stolen cash, you're guilty of a crime. If you don't know, then, well, you don't know. Can someone come to you the next day and say - well, those were stolen banknotes, give them back, and work things out with whoever you got them from?
To the people who were unaware they were receiving stolen Bitcoins, they would not face any charge.
... it will do a lot more harm to Bitcoin as a whole then any theft.
Guess what, that is what they want to achieve!This kind of attack is much easier to implement than theese dreaded 51%.
Maybe be it is not that effective but could be efficient enough for at least a while until the next poke is at hand.
How does it work with cash? Like with any stolen goods? If you KNOW you're accepting stolen cash, you're guilty of a crime. If you don't know, then, well, you don't know. Can someone come to you the next day and say - well, those were stolen banknotes, give them back, and work things out with whoever you got them from?
The self-reported hacker from the recent Bitcoinica theft has been distributing stolen coins over IRC.
If you recieve offers of stolen coins or have been sent tainted bitcoins, visit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-stolen-coin-returns-82581, for information on how to redeem them safely. As with any theft, law enforcement will likely become involved and stolen coins may subject you to criminal investigation and/or charges - please be safe!
Bitcoin-related channels will not tolerate soliciting or distributing stolen coins.
For more information regarding the situation, please visit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/emergency-ann-bitcoinica-site-is-taken-offline-for-security-investigation-81045
If you recieve offers of stolen coins or have been sent tainted bitcoins, visit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-stolen-coin-returns-82581, for information on how to redeem them safely. As with any theft, law enforcement will likely become involved and stolen coins may subject you to criminal investigation and/or charges - please be safe!
Bitcoin-related channels will not tolerate soliciting or distributing stolen coins.
For more information regarding the situation, please visit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/emergency-ann-bitcoinica-site-is-taken-offline-for-security-investigation-81045
I would love to know who else among Important People support it, because this is crazy, enforcing it will do a lot more harm to Bitcoin as a whole then any theft. It will make a person uncertain about bitcoins in his wallet and if he is actually free to spend them as pleased. So, are you on your own in this or do you have other people supporting you, and who are they?
Kettenmonster: I know what you mean, you suspect the 1BPK adress is mine but thats not true, ...
... so you know that?That explains why I should believe you now, doesn´t it?
You're misquoting
[...] just verify with the thread linked that Luke-Jr written and you will see that the adress I specifyed match with that thread.
This thread is fail though.
... Any other takers? 
Hey bugger, me was first!!!111oneoneshifteleven 
Kettenmonster: I know what you mean, you suspect the 1BPK adress is mine but thats not true, ...
... so you know that?That explains why I should believe you now, doesn´t it?
The self-reported hacker from the recent Bitcoinica theft has been distributing stolen coins over IRC.
If you recieve offers of stolen coins or have been sent tainted bitcoins, visit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-stolen-coin-returns-82581, for information on how to redeem them safely. As with any theft, law enforcement will likely become involved and stolen coins may subject you to criminal investigation and/or charges - please be safe!
Bitcoin-related channels will not tolerate soliciting or distributing stolen coins.
For more information regarding the situation, please visit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/emergency-ann-bitcoinica-site-is-taken-offline-for-security-investigation-81045
If you recieve offers of stolen coins or have been sent tainted bitcoins, visit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-stolen-coin-returns-82581, for information on how to redeem them safely. As with any theft, law enforcement will likely become involved and stolen coins may subject you to criminal investigation and/or charges - please be safe!
Bitcoin-related channels will not tolerate soliciting or distributing stolen coins.
For more information regarding the situation, please visit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/emergency-ann-bitcoinica-site-is-taken-offline-for-security-investigation-81045
This is BS. While we're at this silliness, we can also charge Patrick with criminal negligence.
Trying to follow and block tainted coins is extremely dangerous and stupid. It's worse than blocking people by IP. I guess that's precisely what the hacker wants - distribute the money the more he can so that a tainting attempt becomes a disaster.
Many innocent people will end up with a fraction of this theft in their wallets, and in many cases it won't be in the form of a "donation".
+1Many innocent people will end up with a fraction of this theft in their wallets, and in many cases it won't be in the form of a "donation".
I personally don't mind spending and receiving stolen coins for exactly this kind of reason.
If the hacker needs addresses to send stolen coins you guys can give him the address in my signature. :-)
My address too. We can split the stolen coins equally. That seems like the fairest thing to do. Any other takers? 
Lol i didn't notice it was luke's address. Fail is now over 9000
Patrick from Bitcoin Consultancy agreed with Luke setting this up when it was going on. There isn't any funny business going on there.
Lol i didn't notice it was luke's address. Fail is now over 9000
Zhou Tong shouldn't post shit. Those are bitcoinica's coins, not Zhou Tong's coins...
Unless you don't believe in net neutrality / free speech on the internet, there is nothing wrong with requesting and keeping coins that were hacked. Of course, there may be some legal issues involved, so weigh the risks accordingly.
But if you do receive these "tainted" bitcoins, it's completely against the decentralized design of Bitcoin to send them to some central authority (in this case Luke's address) for proper return to their owner. Why should I trust this central authority to properly return the Bitcoin? Why not return them in another way that I see fit?
But if you do receive these "tainted" bitcoins, it's completely against the decentralized design of Bitcoin to send them to some central authority (in this case Luke's address) for proper return to their owner. Why should I trust this central authority to properly return the Bitcoin? Why not return them in another way that I see fit?
Yeah. Why can't zhoutong put up an address so we can return them ourselves without them going through Luke's pockets first
I trust Luke because he is a dev but zhoutong should post his address here !
Unless you don't believe in net neutrality / free speech on the internet, there is nothing wrong with requesting and keeping coins that were hacked. Of course, there may be some legal issues involved, so weigh the risks accordingly.
But if you do receive these "tainted" bitcoins, it's completely against the decentralized design of Bitcoin to send them to some central authority (in this case Luke's address) for proper return to their owner. Why should I trust this central authority to properly return the Bitcoin? Why not return them in another way that I see fit?
But if you do receive these "tainted" bitcoins, it's completely against the decentralized design of Bitcoin to send them to some central authority (in this case Luke's address) for proper return to their owner. Why should I trust this central authority to properly return the Bitcoin? Why not return them in another way that I see fit?
+1 for all the posts advocating fungibility.
If the hacker needs addresses to send stolen coins you guys can give him the address in my signature. :-)
This thread: so much FUD
So if i end up with stolen coins and i don't read the forum daily police arrest me? Ok guys bye, i'm back using fiat money and credit cards
So if i end up with stolen coins and i don't read the forum daily police arrest me? Ok guys bye, i'm back using fiat money and credit cards
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