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Topic: Split BFL thread? - page 3. (Read 6324 times)

hero member
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January 22, 2013, 04:03:09 AM
#65
Huh... well, I asked him today with regards to an unrelated issue about it and he said he won't do it.  To be fair, though, he said he won't do it for people being "annoying" but I would say trolling falls under the auspices of "annoying" by any definition. 

Good on him if he'll ban for trolling.  Can you define "Good portion?"  Are we talking 51% or 99.9% or what?



Are you worried about your account?  Huh
hero member
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January 22, 2013, 03:02:04 AM
#64
imho BFL has brought this troll/shitstorm onto themselves.

BFL/Josh has deliberately lied to the community, insults (potential) customers on a daily basis and is one of the biggest trolls himself.

If you treat the community like shit - the community treats you like shit. That's Karma.

imho all (future) postings concerning BFL should be deleted because, ultimately, they result in trolling. Until, one day, BFL actually has a product.

The most profound thread here is ASIC shipping dates by Morblias.

P.S.
I don't think BFL are scammer. imho they are just utterly incompetent and unprofessional. I believe they are cowboys with no clue of semiconductor manufacturing at all. Their business plan might look something like this: "Grab all the pre-order money we can get and then find us some boffins that do all the engineering stuff for us".
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
January 22, 2013, 01:51:07 AM
#63
Huh... well, I asked him today with regards to an unrelated issue about it and he said he won't do it.  To be fair, though, he said he won't do it for people being "annoying" but I would say trolling falls under the auspices of "annoying" by any definition.  

Good on him if he'll ban for trolling.  Can you define "Good portion?"  Are we talking 51% or 99.9% or what?



Should people who are associated with businesses that take large sums of money (like BFL) and promise to deliver and keep pushing back delivery dates for more than 4 months now? Any other person/business that operated that way on these forums would be banned and tagged as a scammer.

I think that's fair. Trolling < Being 4 months late in delivering customer goods on a BAN scale.
legendary
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January 22, 2013, 01:40:54 AM
#62
Huh... well, I asked him today with regards to an unrelated issue about it and he said he won't do it.  To be fair, though, he said he won't do it for people being "annoying" but I would say trolling falls under the auspices of "annoying" by any definition. 

Good on him if he'll ban for trolling.  Can you define "Good portion?"  Are we talking 51% or 99.9% or what?

legendary
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January 22, 2013, 01:25:34 AM
#61
Theymos said he will not ban people for trolling, so a warning is completely meaningless.
He will if it makes up a good portion of a user's posts. Also, trolling is often off-topic, but that really depends on the post.
legendary
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January 22, 2013, 01:23:57 AM
#60
Theymos said he will not ban people for trolling, so a warning is completely meaningless.
Theymos wasn't the one who created this thread.
legendary
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January 22, 2013, 01:19:27 AM
#59
Theymos said he will not ban people for trolling, so a warning is completely meaningless.
legendary
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January 22, 2013, 01:16:13 AM
#58
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This. Absolutely this. I check the ASIC threads from time to time, but I can only do so much. Yet, I've still deleted hundreds of posts despite being limited to the global moderation rules. You guys don't even have that limitation since theymos has given the Mining board moderators autonomy! So, you need to either more actively moderate this board or you need to ask theymos for more moderators to be appointed. Anything else is just going to make things worse.

I've deleted many of posts too.  Many of them very quickly so perhaps they haven't been noticed— crap like bazarro porn mashups with pictures of the family members of asic people.  Some of that is now moved off the forum.  ... some people here should be ashamed of themselves.

You can start telling me what I _need_ to do when I get the authority to ban people and when the overall forum adopts a policy which is less all-is-fair. Until then, it's going to be horrible... and when I see a particularly bad example that I can fix easily I'll continue to do so.
And I'm glad that you do as much as you do. More and more, though, it's looking like there just isn't enough of you. I honestly think that there just aren't enough moderators here. Seriously, ask theymos to appoint some more people.

Also, you have the authority to warn people not to do things. I've found that to be very effective. If someone continues being clearly off-topic and/or trolling, feel free to put in a ban request.
newbie
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January 22, 2013, 01:10:16 AM
#57
Why doesnt this forum have a Vapourware section in hardware ?

It would be more efficient to just rename that entire section to Vaporware.
legendary
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I'd fight Gandhi.
January 21, 2013, 11:25:17 PM
#56
Do you have any idea how much that crop circle cost us?
Tree Fiddy?

Since BFL does not actually have a product to sell, any and all BFL-related threads should be moved to a more appropriate forum:

Off-topic

or maybe:

Gambling

+1 THIS THIS THIS

I see your +1 and raise it ++2

Send it Gambling ...   Cool
Did they stop selling their FPGAs?


Anyway, onto relevant actual thread discussion...
I don't think it should be moderated. BFL has their own forum they can moderate. If I want to learn more about BFL and their products, I can visit their website. If I want opinions, I can come to here. As much as I hate the asinine trolling garbage, it is BFL's own fault for failing to deliver. From what I remember, the majority of the trolling started after BFL didn't meet their deadline, and word got out about the CEO guy awhile back. For a widely libertarian message board with most of it's inhabitants likely never leaving the house much, it's only natural for us to get jumpy and question things. If BFL wants the trolling to stop, they should work on delivering their product. If they are worried about loosing potential future customers due to them not finding relevant threads, they shouldn't. Assuming they shipped at the end of October, they would have started getting more customers afterward. They'll still get more customers when they ship in the future, but they shouldn't be handicapped with the assistance of the internet police. And imagine the potential for troll food when they start claiming that bitcointalk is being paid by BFL to peddle their business. What if someone else down the road wants this same kind of service for their product in the future?

I don't know... I don't really have a coherent thesis, but I think it's a bad idea. I kind of don't care as well. And I don't speak against BFL. I just think it'll create a grey area, and more people are going to find something to bitch about.
hero member
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January 21, 2013, 11:15:59 PM
#55
Page 3 of a discussion on split threads with virtually nil about BFL.

May I suggestion the following. Since the other thread is the main BFL thread, allow Josh the latitude to use the report-to-moderator option to request deletion of any post that's off-topic, provided he does it without being bias, nor adds to the trollish dialog. Other respected members, of course, will do the same.


OFFICIAL BFL RELATED POST

Realistically after all the bile that has been heaped upon AVALON from their PR Guru

AVALON have delivered (final confirmation in 3..2..1)

It is expected that the tolerance for the PR Gurus modus operandi is @ an all time low..

As with AVALON all that anybody wants to see or hear about BFL (apart from the fanboys...you seem to have a penchant for fans yourself or am i reading it wrong) is delivery of the units that people have paid money for

The PR Genius has created this bed of a large group of people who after many an insult cant stand his style of PR any more

BFL its time (PUT UP or BE QUIET until they do)  ...this should be the end of the thread until this happens IMHO

donator
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January 21, 2013, 11:13:20 PM
#54
SMF can't scale at handling so much crap.

Move to REDDIT, This place stink.
10 threads on the same topic cluttering up the front page is hardly an improvement.
People upvote what they like there, Here we're stuck with loud mouth idiots bumping threads.
member
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January 21, 2013, 11:10:59 PM
#53
Off to get more popcorn.  Wink
hero member
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January 21, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
#52
Is this the actual splitted thread?
I'm asking because this starts to look like a copy of the old thread.
Good job, op!

hero member
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January 21, 2013, 11:06:19 PM
#51
SMF can't scale at handling so much crap.

Move to REDDIT, This place stink.



10 threads on the same topic cluttering up the front page is hardly an improvement.
full member
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January 21, 2013, 11:04:33 PM
#50
Why doesnt this forum have a Vapourware section in hardware ?
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
January 21, 2013, 11:03:36 PM
#49
Do you have any idea how much that crop circle cost us?


1 customer preorder? Or was it 10?

 Cheesy
donator
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January 21, 2013, 11:03:22 PM
#48
SMF can't scale at handling so much crap.

Move to REDDIT, This place stink.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/top/
sr. member
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January 21, 2013, 11:02:08 PM
#47
+1 DONGS
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
January 21, 2013, 11:00:49 PM
#46
Do you have any idea how much that crop circle cost us?


ROFLMAO
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