Topic: Splitting the Baby, and other Operations of Fate: the Fate and Economics Thread - page 2. (Read 785 times)

Lol, I understand Fate very well. I am saying none of this is new, and it was all going to happen one way or another, not inevitable, there are ways it could have started and been pushed back, but that is then only denying the Innevitable, which is also part of the Fate.

And if Defintions can not have their Defining Words in themselves, then Fate can not be Inevitability as it includes people trying their darndest to fight the inevitable, they are all Fate.


This is Fate, he looks back and the Gods say "Dont worry about what we are doing"

It is true that there is a mistake here, all have a point of view about the dogma of necessity and death. and did you know that the more he elaborated on his speculations, the less tolerable one party would be. each of us has different beliefs. so that what we believe in cannot be equated with what he believes. regardless of all that, as a form of human respect, I value differences.

You seem to misunderstand that fate and inevitability are not the same thing. Your death is inevitable; that doesn't make it predetermined. Your death is not fated because "fate" is a human construct that doesn't exist in the natural world.

Imhotep said that "Medicine only works with the proper incantation", Heka means both "Magic", and "Medicine", the Nile and Seasons, etc, were Heka related.

"The Proper Incantation" can be seen as the Placebo Effect, if I hear the right Magic Words, see the Shaman, or Witch Doctor, etc, their Role can work for some while some want a man with a Stethoscope and bad handwriting, with Flourescent or at least Sterile Artificial feeling light, and a Pressed Pill.

But,
There may be more to that. Even though everything works the way it works, regardless of Incantation on a Science base level analysys.

If we look at Love, there is Theobromine and Oxytocin, but if I pump you full of those all day, it doesn't mean you will Love me. There is something deeper there that is real, and it is not replicable by a Doctor.

When you measure Brain activity, Love happens, the pattern called Love, then the Oxytocin and Theobromine are released. Your eyes, your ears, your Memories, your everything, are acted upon by external stimuli in the world around you, causing the Brain Pattern, then releasing the Electro-Chemicals.

Love is a 3rd Party to what we are measuring now. Like the Placebo Effect is a Clinical Control, you could say Love is an unmatched Clinical Control.

https://casetext.com/case/gallagher-v-austin-police-dept
"Plaintiff appears to be an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church and runs a religiously oriented business of selling seeds, herbs, fruits, and vegetables. Plaintiff states that he "is a Hindu and practices Neurospirituality,"."

https://www.minds.com/SashaGallagher/blog/the-lord-god-soma-in-bio-chemical-context-898233881190830080

I want to get a little into the Older Organizations. Specifically 2 of them. First, the Commonwealth of Nations. This is the Old British Empire, no longer under British Rule for the most part, it includes the UK, Canada, Australia, South Africa, the British Virgin Islands, etc, and they have something like the Olympics called the Commonwealth games, and the Queen is the head of the Commonwealth. And recently there have been revelations about "the Dutchie of Lancaster", this is the Sovereign's (Queen/King) own personal estate which they get their own personal spending money. There are Multiple Royal Families, or Royal Houses, in Britain. It is a little like Hogwarts. They are raised in their Houses, and to be representatives of their Families, and the British people choose their favorite Princes and Princesses, but only certain ones become King or Queen, and are Coronated over the Stone of Scone.

And there are Multiple Royal Families all over Europe, another example of a Kingdom is The Unity of the Realm, which is the Danish Kingdom. It includes Denmark, the Faroe Islands and Greenland. And the Danish Kingdom is a much smaller Kingdom, with only about 6 Million Citizens, but similarly to how the United Kingdom in Britain will Knight people to show that they are stewards of the Queen or the Kingdom in some way, the Danish Kingdom has The Order of the Elephant. And there are various orders, and all these Royal Family Members all have various Titles and Honors. Some of these families were part of the Holy Roman Empire (Crusades), etc.

Just kind of an example of someone that in in the Order of the Elephant and part of the family that used to be the main ruling family in the UK that is kind of interesting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Ernst_August_of_Hanover_(born_1954)

"In old Time it was no disrespect for Men and Women to be call'd by their own Names: Adam, was never called Master Adam; we never read of Noah Esquire, Lot Knight and Baronet, nor the Right Honourable Abraham, Viscount Mesopotamia, Baron of Carran; no, no, they were plain Men, honest Country Grasiers, that took Care of their Families and their Flocks. Moses was a great Prophet, and Aaron a Priest of the Lord; but we never read of the Reverend Moses, nor the Right Reverend Father in God, Aaron, by Divine Providence, Lord Arch-Bishop of Israel: Thou never sawest Madam Rebecca in the Bible, my Lady Rachel, nor Mary, tho' a Princess of the Blood after the Death of Joseph, call'd the Princess Dowager of Nazareth; no, plain Rebecca, Rachel, Mary, or the Widow Mary, or the like: It was no Incivility then to mention their naked Names as they were expressed."

In America, Titles are Voted for. The concept of America is that you are not born with a Title, you are not given a Title by someone with a Title, your Title is Voted on by your Peers, and everyone is created equal.

The American Revolution was primarily about Religion. In the United States the Church of England Ruled, and the Sovereign is the Head of the Church of England. All Tithes went to England, and Tithing was Mandated by the British Government, and people were forced to be members of the Church of England, and were persecuted for not being members of the Church of England. The Witch Trials happened not long before the American Revolution. When the Revolution happened, much of the Popular support for the Revolution was actually against the Church of England and the oppressive Rules of the British Empire, imposing the Church if England on the people of the Colonies. That is why there first part of the First Amendment is about the Free Exercise of Religion, and then the limits of Congress in writing Laws regarding Religion, and the Separation of Church and State.

Thomas Jefferson expanded on this saying that "All laws regarding religious worship ought to be repealed" etc, just a big list of all the Religious Laws that ought to be repealed, and then the Amendment was later written, overturning any Laws that may not have been repealed.

Gods are the opposing force in the Universe (the actual Governing Force) to this Structure of Titles and Orders. The way Polybius and Machiavelli and Plato and everyone described it, was "The Multitude". Polybius was very cynical towards the Multitude, and believed that it was the most evil, that a Government like America's is pure chaos or even evil compared to a Government like Denmark or Saudi Arabia. But most other people believed that if there were a side to err on, it would be the side of the Multitude, and as Machiavelli put it over the side of the "Princes". Plato described a system that did not yet exist (a Republic), and he believed in the Multitude. But Polybius says things like, for example, that the Greek Royals put the fear of the Gods and Hades in people to control them, and now they want to take it from them, and that they shouldn't do that. But that is not what Religion is, Religion can be a form of Control, or it can be a form of Liberation. The Geneva Bible, brought to America by the Pilgrims, stated that if God and Government disagree, follow God. And throughout History, Gods have been the Kings who are greater than the Rulers, and who Govern the Rulers. The Religions can be used to Control the people, when the people don't have access to books and knowledge, but when people have access to information about Gods, and when people can make their own decisions about Gods, even rejecting Gods (I believe people do that far too soon though, usually after experience with 1 God); this allows for equality. This is what happened when Martin Luther started Protestantism and fought against the Catholic Priesthood and the Holy See (Catholic Global Governing Body), this is what happened when Jesus brought God out of "The Jots and Tittles of the Law" and into your Heart, as something you could personally have a Relationship with. It has happened over and over throughout History.

The only way you can be Controlled and Limited by a God, is by not understanding them.

Chili Peppers like Jalapenos are not Native to any Continent outside of the Americas, yet some of the Hottest Chili Peppers in the World come from India and the surrounding Region. Tobacco is not Native anywhere outside the Americas, yet Camel is using Turkish and Asian tobacco to create their blends. Pepper is not Native to the United States, yet everyone has Salt and Pepper on their Food. Corn is not Native outside the Americas, but people eat it all over the World, and it makes most of the World's Sugars now instead of Sugar Cane. All of this happened because Christopher Columbus thought he was going to India when he found the first Commercial Route to the Americas.

The Bahamas are called the West Indies, and are where Columbus first landed. The Era in South America and Central America before Columbus got there is called "The Pre-Columbian Era". The Company that had Monopoly over most of this Trade was the East India Trade Company, which was centered in Amsterdam, which is why Amsterdam is known for their Coffee and Marijuana, yet neither of those things are from Europe. And because Britain later (during the time of the Trade Company) Ruled India, they Controlled the Trade in India. And it should also be mentioned that during this time the Slave Trade was happening, at first Legally through organizations such as the East India Trade Company, and later by Pirates. Brazil speaks Portuguese because of the Pact with the Catholic Church (Treaty of Tordesillas) gave those lands to Portugal, and other lands to the Spanish. During this time many many Religions were melded together. The most obvious and up front were the Conquistadors and others who were seeking "Gold, God and Glory"; but then there were the Natives, who already had their own Religions. And then their were Slaves, usually brought from Africa, who had their own Religions. And there are Multiple Religions that are practiced in Central, South America and the Caribbean that represent these Religious melds.

Liber was the God of Vineculture (Wine/Intoxication), and Liberty. The name Līber ('free') stems from Proto-Italic*leuþero, and ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *h₁leudʰero ('belonging to the people', hence 'free'). Libera is the Feminine Liberty Goddess, Magna Mater.

The very Heiroglyph for "Gift", meaning "To Give without contract/purchase", not just like a Present for someone close but that also, is Punic Wax, or Saponified Wax. Soap. Symbolizing success in Carthaginian Culture, used as Paint. And Burned at Gades/Cadiz.

This is the Egyptian Heiroglyph for T


When held in a hand, it is the word "Give!" Or "To Present".


Read the rest here,
http://www.punicwax.com/2021/03/the-punic-grimoire-cadiz-and-goddesses.html

And part of what Jesus then discovered was that giving away everything, removing ties to the physical world, is freedom. Buddha before him So there is Contract, Payment, Slavery, Gifts and Tokens, and Freedom/Self-Determination, then there is the Freedom of ego loss and control

Thanks.

I am just saying, maybe some things seem new, but they seem that way because it all happened just as it was supposed to, so that the Natural Order could continue. Like, maybe if not Satoshi, someone else and just a little different, like SHA, Scrypt, CryptoNote, etc. And it is really just what we have always done.

I am going to get deeper into this soon, but the Puny Punic, a story of slavery in 200 B.C. Rome not much different than today or the 1800s, is Evidence of a Human History that is more Fate driven than we realize. Slavery in America existed because we as a Society, believed:

1. Noah was seen Naked, and Cursed one of his Children, and thereby a Race or Nation

2. Carthage Deserved to be Destroyed, proving that the Nation was African and that God willed Africans into Slavery.

But now, we realize Noah was wrong to curse when it was he who was Naked, it was not the fault of his child for seeing him.

It is hard to say all of this simply. The most simple may be:

Greek and Roman Demi-God myths, are a Table of Nations like Noah's. Demi-Gods founding towns, is like talking about Ham, Shem, Esau, etc.

Hercules = Phoenicians, King of the City
Poisideon = Sailing and Horse Clans
Argonauts = Peoples, you see a Ship builder come out of nowhere, Idmon the Argonaut is worshiped like Mopsus the Prophecy God, etc

I am writing a Bibliotheca and this Economics thread will be part of the Tarot part
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/harvard-theological-review/article/abs/berossus-manetho-and-1-enoch-in-the-world-chronicle-of-panodorus/F336A251930BFD503621FBFF01447576

"They further assimilated Dionysus with Liber, a native Italian god who was a son of Ceres. Liber was a god of viniculture and wine, but was also a patron of male procreation, and associated with freedom, free speech, and the rights of adulthood. As Liber Pater, he ensured the success of the harvest, and averted catastrophes. Together with his sister Libera, Liber and Ceres were worshiped as a triad at a temple on the Aventine hill in Rome that was established in 493 BCE. The Aventine Triad were regarded as the patrons of Rome’s “commoners”, the plebeians, the people who worked for a living as laborers, skilled trades persons, managers, and owners of small businesses or farms.

Little is known of the rituals in which these deities were worshiped. Ceres was, of course, associated with the Eleusinian Mysteries, and Bacchus with the Dionysian. Libera was equated, at different times, with Proserpina and with Ariadne, so, again, there is a connection with the Eleusinian Mysteries. The cults were considered “Greek” in character, and were sometimes even described as being “un-Roman”, suggesting that the rites were very different from those usually accorded to Roman gods." -https://honorthegodsblog.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/what-is-the-difference-between-the-roman-god/

A very good analysis and concept. Although I am not really into fate, or destiny, as I believe it imposes complacency to people. It is possible that Satoshi saw the market and the current society for the cesspool it is and decided to create a technology that will allow the world of the future to become a little bit liveable, it's not that impossible considering he is a very smart guy for him to even make a project like this.

I have had to postpone everything, like this thread for example, until now due to COVID Pandemic issues, and having to fight the State of Texas over COVID money. But, we are getting everything moving, and those things in themselves are a good example of Fate and Economics, and I want to expand on this.

Foreign Currency Trading (FOREX), Stock Trading, even trading things like Gold and Silver, are all similar but different. Silver is talked about in commercials, they say things about how low it is now, and how primed it is to spike, and what it has been before. Silver has several uses, in Industry, Manufacturing and Research, as well as non-Recyclable Consumables like Colloidal Silver. But everyone and their Grandma used to have a Drawer full of... "Silver Wares" and Teapots and Cups, etc, they used to have Warehouses everywhere full of Silver, and Silver Crafting was a common job. Not that we can not go back to that point, or that Silver Consumables couldn't cause rarity, but we can actually look and see why Silver went down, why it was up, and how we could do it again.

We can also look to Iraq, where ISIS robbed the Bank of Mosul, took all the Gold, took over the Oil feilds, and decimated the value of the Iraqi Dinar. But, if Iraq now turns around and their National Production of Value could turn around their Currency.

Brexit was similar, when Britain left the EU the price of the British Pound went down, there was a Crisis and the "Fed" (like the Federal Reserve) of Britain had to come talk about how they were going to prop up the Market. But then it went back up.

The Economy is not a thing separate from the Earth, it is the Current. Markets are not the Economy either, and there is a National Economy and a World Economy, which is just our production of Value as a Nation or World.

A Stock represents the Value, Productivity, Innovation, Development, of a Company. A Currency represents that for a Nation, and it is balanced with Bonds. Then as Stocks and Currency go down, Gold goes up. So it is best to use Currency to buy Materials for Manufacturing, or Software, Land, Services, etc. Then use those to get more money, or do that same thing by watching other people do that and Buy their stocks. That is why there are shows where Rich people come invest in people's companies to make them better, those 2 things go together, you want to buy Stocks in a Company that could maybe otherwise be your company if you weren't just an investor, like something you know how it works and that it will work. Then you can see how even starting from scratch can be like trading Stocks.

Then, when all those Markets are down, Gold goes up in value, this means you can go get more USD or whatever Currency for your Gold than usual. So when Stocks are down, you can watch Gold go up and you Sell and the top, wait for it to go down and Buy more Gold at the lower price or Reinvest that money to make more money.

But all of it is just a Current, which is why I talk about "Grounding" your Currency to the Earth.

One way you can tell money is an Earth Element, is first by looking at the various symbologies used by the U.S. Founding Fathers and Mints, early Cryptography, and really 1700s wasn't "early" Cryptology, just Pre-Digital.

There is an Art to creating Currencies that can not be counterfeited, and that itself is "Cryptocurrency" these are just now Digital Cryotocurrencies. The U.K. and U.S. have been spreading Cryptographic currencies since they started, and so have others.

And if you are wondering if there is a symbol showing Dollars are meant to be Earth Currents, they are Green. If you could choose to make your encrypted puzzle used to symbolize your Nations Resources, and Capibility, any Color, or number of Colors, and you were in the 1600s-1800s, with access to all the World's dyes, ,would your first choice naturally be "Green"?

I will make the next Pentacle post soon, I have been updating PunicWax.com with new info and will be adding more soon

Introduction to Understanding of Ancient Mysteries
http://www.punicwax.com/2020/12/introduction-to-understanding-of.html

Punic Wax: Beeswax Incense Cones and Sacred Perfumes in Ancient Egypt
http://www.punicwax.com/2020/08/punic-wax-beeswax-incense-cones-and.html

Discovering Punic Wax
http://www.punicwax.com/2020/08/discovering-punic-wax.html

JACHIN AND BOAZ; OR, AN AUTHENTIC KEY TO THE DOOR OF FREE-MASONRY
http://www.punicwax.com/2020/08/jachin-and-boaz-or-authentic-key-to.html

The Punic Grimoire: Visions, Dream Work, Tibetan Dream Yoga Intro, Divination and Healing
http://www.punicwax.com/2020/09/the-punic-grimoire-visions-dream-work.html

The Punic Grimoire: Cadiz and The Goddesses, Part 1; The Anthropomorphization of Blind Justice
http://www.punicwax.com/2020/12/the-punic-grimoire-cadiz-and-goddesses.html

Go look at the articles people posted before the ETH ETC fork, it was the end of the world.

If you can't figure out how Ancient Financial concepts that make up our economy, relate to Bitcoin, I don't think anything I say is going to help.

I mean so far I have explained a lot about Tribalism, Wealth, etc, and Religious concepts to further these explaination.

And I have framed it as clearly as I could using Carthage and the Punics as the Framework by which you can further understand this, instead of just the European Framework. And I am even going so far as to explain how this Ancient Culture understood Value(s).


Bitcoin is definitely part of a long History. Community Currencies are a good example.

Well, you wrote a good article though I think it’s a very long one and not everyone likes reading long articles, but it’s still a good one. Maybe it’s fate as you really said, bitcoin is not the first time that anyone has tried creating something as of such, there have been those who tried it as of the 90’s and it never worked out, nobody care about what they are talking about, but when Bitcoin was created a lot of people started to adopt it without too much stress and it became a success.

Although I think what helped to boost Bitcoin is because this is the internet age. A lot of things these days are all about the internet.

Hey, for this theory to be applicable to Bitcoin.... one of the parties have to be fooled, that by killing the baby... they would be sacrificing something precious. This clearly did not happen with Bitcoin when all these forks and Alt coins came out. A lot of people even think those Alt coins and forks add value to the whole Crypto currency experiment.

This is the reasons why :

1. Alt coins can be seen as the "test" coin for improvements in Bitcoin. (The protocol can be changed with consensus, if some new feature needs to be added)
2. Most forked coins and Alt coins ends up being sold for Fiat and some of that money are then used to buy bitcoins.
3. Fiat currency are turned into Crypto currencies. (Taking the "bad" money and turning it into something better)

OP, you should really add some value to your posts, by explaining how the "Wall of text" being copied and pasted.. relates to Bitcoin. (Add a Summary at the bottom, explaining it)   

The Cypherpunks themselves, who for years were finding a way to develop a decentralized currency for the internet, didn't believe it had a chance except for Hal Finney.


Don't put anything mystical in there, it simply started as an open slurce project, like many other ground-breaking projects.


Or simply, a part of the evolution of "money".


It doesn't change that they are merely shitcoins.

Entertaining thread!

Just so that this concept exists in the World, I am going to post about what made Hannibal Barca so successful against the Romans, a part from the blatantly obvious in that he was a Tactical Genius.

The Romans saw Hannibal as a Barbarian, the Phoenicians and Punics had been the premiere Civilization for 1,500 years and was by most metrics far more advanced than Rome. But in the Roman Senate's view, he was a Barbarian, and the Senators also acted a Military Commanders, and they were all very excited to go crush the Barbarian, the Uncivilized Animals.

This can be seen best by overlaying it on 2 other concepts, first "The Most Dangerous Game" in which a hunter kidnaps humans to then hunt for sport on his property, and the modern idea of the "Lizard Brain" in the Criminology aspect.

If we look at the most Dangerous Game, the Hunter is like the Romans, excited to go out against the Barbarian for sport, Hunting an Animal. And this can be seen as the Romans kind of doing an analysis of Hannibal as lizard brained. But just like in the Most Dangerous Game, the Barbarian was much more capable, having honed his skills for other purposes, and being put up against the overeager Megalomaniacs. He was able to see their Animal Nature far better than they were. And maybe because he was a "Barbarian", and not in spite of the fact.

I will explain how this concept works in modern times to give this a more comprehensive definition here.

The Punic Mind, and the Carthaginian Mjnd. First, we can get a clear example in the fact that the North Africans worshipped Tannit, which is a conglomerate of several Egyptian Goddesses, which makes her Justice, Gravity, the Force that Holds the Universe together, we can comprehend it today by first thinking of the "Big Bang" Theory, if we take that perspective, the Universe was at some time all in 1 Small point. It is likely our Universe collapsed into existence out of a dying Universe, but that is a whole other subject. When our Universe came into existence through that point it then began to expand, and all things are 1, expanding, that is the Universe.

Then if I say "there is a Force connecting you to me, and us to Earth, and the Moon to Earth, and all of us to the Sun, pulling us together" it sounds like New Age mumbo jumbo. If I say "Gravity" you say, "Oh yeah, that force holding everything together connecting us to the Moon and Sun, causing Tides". Tannit, or Ma'at was Gravity, and Equated with Justice. Our "Blind Justice" Statues are her.

Now, for a clear example of Carthaginian Mathematics, we can look at Hannibal Barca's Victory over the Romans at Cannae, where they had no way of counting the dead other than to collect their rings, then determine how many each rank was in charge of that they had killed, and figure it out from there. So they had no infinite Numerical Digit system, but they did understand numbers on large scale still.

A modern example would be this, where you can measure something and once it is done there is no way of double checking, you can not reweigh it. But it is accurate, and helps to create microdoses.

If you have 1/2 gram of a powder, which is equal to 500mg and you want to put 1mg in a dosage, you could put 500mg in 1/2 Liter which is 500ml and now you have 1mg/1ml and you can use a medicine cap or measured pipette or dropper to measure 1ml. 1ml is 1mg and you know that because you weighed the powder and measured the volume of the liquid. This is how LSD is measured also, but one big dose of LSD is 100μg micrograms, there are 1000mg in 1 Gram, but there are 1000μg micrograms in 1mg. So using liquid and measuring the solid on a scale can give you even precise dosages on the smallest microdosing level.

Once it is done you know what you have, but you can't double check that in any way unless you evaporate the liquid, which Punics had the capability of doing also. Egyptians carried around Wax Blobs with certain weights, like having a GPS on your Ancient Scales, meaning the Scale was like a Map, then kind of put on GPS (now with GPS, no one has to remember directions anywhere) when using Wax and Metal Blobs.

8 of Pentacles

The following quote is from this website
https://www.biddytarot.com/tarot-card-meanings/minor-arcana/suit-of-pentacles/eight-of-pentacles/
The Eight of Pentacles shows a young man labouring over eight coins, carefully etching out a pentacle shape into each coin. In the background, there is a small town, however he has separated himself from the distractions of home life so that he can fully dedicate himself to the task at hand. He is concentrating very hard, eager to do a good job and avoid any mistakes. As he creates each coin, his skills improve and he becomes a master at his craft.


First, 3 people to read about.

Josephine Peladan was an Artist who furthered the idea of preserving Artifacts and Museums during Wartime.

Joséphin Péladan
http://peladan.net/symbolist-art/who-was-josephin-peladan-3/

Nicholas Roerich was something like a Guru to many in America, almost like a Masonic Icon in the U.S., associated with the Holy Grail and Eastern Mysticism. He created Agni Yoga. He also furthered the cause of preserving Artifacts and Museums in Wartime.

Nicholas Roerich
http://www.roerich.org/roerich-biography.php

Madame Blavatsky was raised in Russia in an Occult library then came to America during the time of the fake Seance, so she used the Seances to get people interested in learning about the Occult, creating Theosophy. Theosophy has continued today and spread very well in India as its central ideas are not outside the scope of Hinduism, and Theosophy also spawned several new Religions around the World.

Madame Blavatsky
https://daily.jstor.org/spiritualism-science-and-the-mysterious-madame-blavatsky/

In any Religious Order there is a Founder. Usually 1 person or a group of people, or some kind of large scale change, like the Bronze Age, or the Iron Age, or the Enlightenment Period, or the Atomic Age. For example in Christianity, Judaism and Islam there is Abraham. Abraham was promised by God to be the Father of Nations, and then Jacob, Jacob's ladder which came to him in a Dream while he was sleeping on Jacob's pillow, and the British Empire still uses the Stone of Scone to Coronate their Kings and Queens and some people think that is Jacob's pillow. He may have also been the one who met someone who was God in Human form, and wrestled him until God ripped his Hip Bone out of his socket, then he named him Israel. In Bahai, this would be the Bab, in Thelma it might be Aleister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky for Theosophy, etc. It is harder to say for the Bronze Age, and Iron Age Religions, as they usually suggest the Gods founded the Religions, or are Animistic in Nature. For example, the Greek Gods Kairos and Chronos which are 2 forms of Time Passage, these are simply undeniable existing things. And Christians call Kairos Time, "Gods Time".



Chronos and Kairos


Then there are Prophets, they lay out the Future for the Religion. These in the Bible are like Ezekiel and Isiah. For Theosophy, maybe Nicolas Roerich. In Bahai, this would still be the Bab, and Bahai may be considered an Abrahamic Religion because of this. The Prophets may also predict someone who is going to come in the Future. An example of a Religion that does not really have this is Buddhism, except for a few forms like Tibetan Buddhism, which has the Dalai Lama who is reincarnated over and over, and in each Generation they seek out the child who he is reborn as, and he is basically their Pope.



Then it spreads quickly through space (and time), unless like Judaism it is an Ethno-Religious group, where more people can convert, but the Religion is based on a National Identity, or at the very least a Language and Community (but many religions can claim Community basis). Another example of this, an Ethno-Religious Group, is the Yizidis. And, eventually someone comes who fulfills the Prophecies, the Messiah. Many Jews thought that John the Baptist was going to be the Messiah, and there may also be Established things that happen previous, like for the Greeks they formed States, Commerce (Roads, Amber Routes), Temples, Armies, etc. For the Egyptians, they created Art and Science, same in the Indus Valley, all passing it to the Greeks during Hellenization, after Alexander the Great Conquered all the way to Pakistan (which is why it is so different from India Culturally). The Jewish people had King David, and King Solomon and others, then Christianity has Jesus, Islam has Muhammad, Bahai has Bahá'u'lláh, and at that point they go on to create more things, and sign Treaties and become part of everything, part of regular everday life and things people use or do everyday. In Theosophy this can be seen in US Presidents, and others who embraced Nicolas Roerich as a Prophet. In the Bronze Age Religions, these people are still happening. there are still people practicing Ancient Greek Religion and bringing it back on a larger scale, and there are Rappers and other people Practicing Egyptian Religion (all the Illuminati imagery), and Hinduism has existed for 4,500 Years.

One of the most important indicia of 'a religion' is that the particular collection of ideas and/or practices involves belief in the supernatural, that is to say, belief that reality extends beyond that which is capable of perception by the senses. If that be absent, it is unlikely that one has 'a religion'.

(1) Ultimate Ideas: Fundamental Questions about life, purpose and death

(2) Metaphysical Beliefs: Beliefs addressing a reality that transcends the physical and immediate apparent world

(3) Moral and Ethical System: Proscription of a particular manner of acting or a way of life that is moral or ethical

(4) Comprehensive Beliefs: An overarching array of beliefs that coalesce to provide the believer with answers to many of the problems and concerns that confront humans

(5) Accoutrements of Religion: The presence of various external signs of Religion

in·di·ci·a
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noun
signs, indications, or distinguishing marks.

su·per·nat·u·ral
/ˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
adjective
(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

pre·ter·nat·u·ral
/ˌprēdərˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
adjective
beyond what is normal or natural.

met·a·phys·ics
/ˌmedəˈfiziks/
noun
the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time, and space.

ac·cou·tre·ment
/əˈko͞odərmənt/
noun
additional items of dress or equipment, or other items carried or worn by a person or used for a particular activity.

the·ur·gy
/ˈTHēərjē/
noun
the operation or effect of a supernatural or divine agency in human affairs.

proph·e·sy
/ˈpräfəˌsī/
verb
present participle: prophesying
say that (a specified thing) will happen in the future.

or·a·cle
/ˈôrək(ə)l/
noun
a priest or priestess acting as a medium through whom advice or prophecy was sought from the gods in classical antiquity.

ves·sel
/ˈvesəl/
(chiefly in or alluding to biblical use) a person, especially regarded as holding or embodying a particular quality.

dream
/drēm/
noun
a series of thoughts, images, and sensations occurring in a person's mind during sleep.

vi·sion
/ˈviZHən/
an experience of seeing someone or something in a dream or trance, or as a supernatural apparition.

som·ni·um
/ˈsom.ni.um/
noun
dream, vision

the spirit world
phrase
the non-physical realm in which disembodied spirits have their existence.

"Hypnos had many children, but he selected Morpheus to be the god of Dreams because of his uncanny ability to assume forms and mimic living beings. Morpheus was assisted by the Oneiroi (Greek for Dreams) who were all his brothers. They helped him to create the dreams of humans. One sibling, Icelus, made the dreams seem real, while another, Phobetor, was responsible for phobic or terrifying dreams. Then Phantasus, the third brother, created fantastic and surreal dreams. Morpheus was their leader. As a result, he ensured that he alone oversaw the dreams of monarchs and heroes. Moreover, he could even appear to the Gods in Olympus. Unlike his brothers, all of Morpheus’ dreams were true and many prophetic… Morpheus did not merely make people dream of simple and everyday things. He was doing so much more. Morpheus was a messenger of the gods and he was transmitting, through dreams, messages from the divinities. The Greeks, and later the Romans, believed that many dreams were portents and omens." -https://classicalwisdom.com/mythology/gods/morpheus-the-god-of-dreams/



Micah 3:6 "Therefore it shall be night to you, without vision, and darkness to you, without divination. The sun shall go down on the prophets, and the day shall be black over them"

1 Samuel 3:1 "Now the young man Samuel was ministering to the Lord under Eli. And the word of the Lord was rare in those days; there was no frequent vision."

1 Samuel 28:6 "And when Saul inquired of the Lord, the Lord Did not answer him, either by dreams, or by Urim, or by prophets."

Daniel 7:1 "In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel saw a dream and visions of his head as he lay in his bed. Then he wrote down the dream and told the sum of the matter."

1 Corinthians 14:1 "Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy."

Amos 3:7 “For the Lord God does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets"

Numbers 12:6 "And he said, “Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the Lord make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream."

Daniel 1:17 "As for these four youths, God gave them learning and skill in all literature and wisdom, and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams."

Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’"

Genesis 46:2 "And God spoke to Israel in visions of the night and said, “Jacob, Jacob.” And he said, “Here am I.”"

Genesis 28:12 "And he dreamed, and behold, there was a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven. And behold, the angels of God were ascending and descending on it!"

Joel 2:28-32 or Acts 2:16-21 "But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel: “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy. And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke; the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day."

Daniel 7:1-28 "In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel saw a dream and visions of his head as he lay in his bed. Then he wrote down the dream and told the sum of the matter. Daniel declared, “I saw in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven were stirring up the great sea. And four great beasts came up out of the sea, different from one another. The first was like a lion and had eagles' wings. Then as I looked its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand on two feet like a man, and the mind of a man was given to it. And behold, another beast, a second one, like a bear. It was raised up on one side. It had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth; and it was told, ‘Arise, devour much flesh.’ …"

Daniel 4:5 "I saw a dream that made me afraid. As I lay in bed the fancies and the visions of my head alarmed me."

"THE ONEIROI were the dark-winged spirits (daimones) of dreams which emerged each night like a flock of bats from their cavernous home in Erebos--the land of eternal darkness beyond the rising sun. The Oneiroi passed through one of two gates (pylai). The first of these, made of horn, was the source of the prophetic god-sent dreams, while the other, constructed of ivory, was the source of dreams which were false and without meaning. The term for nightmare was melas oneiros (dark dream)." -https://www.theoi.com/Daimon/Oneiroi.html

"Phantasos (Φαντασoς) whose name is "fantasy" or "apparition", is one of the Oneiroi triplets along with Morpheus and Ikelos.

In Ovid's Metamorphoses, Phantasos was one of the sons (triplets, sometimes simply the most prominent three of many) of Hypnos (god of sleep) and Pasithea (goddess of relaxation, meditation, and hallucinations), or Nyx (goddess of night) and Erebus (god of darkness).

Phantasos' brothers/fellow Oneiroi are Morpheus (who excels in presenting human images) and Ikelos (who presents images of beasts, birds and serpents).

Phantasos was the God of surreal dreams; he represents the inanimate objects seen in Prophetic dreams – images of earth, rock, water, and wood." -https://greekmythology.wikia.org/wiki/Phantasos

Latin Religio meaning:
"reverence for God or the gods, careful pondering of divine things, piety"

Latin Opinari meaning:
"to have an opinion or "to think."


Relevant Bible Verses:

Mark 11:27-33 - Jesus’ Authority Questioned

1 Samuel 28 - Saul Consults a Medium

Genesis 28:10-22 - Jacob’s Dream at Bethel

Genesis 37 - Joseph’s Dreams

Matthew 12:1 - The Lord of the Sabbath

Matthew 23 - Jesus Condemns the Pharisees and the Teachers of the Law of Moses

Mark 7 - Jesus Challenges the Pharisees’ Traditions

For reference as to the Issuance of Religious Documents, please see Letter “Iuvenescit Ecclesia” to the Bishops of the Catholic Church Regarding the Relationship Between Hierarchical and Charismatic Gifts in the Life and the Mission of the Church in which the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church, the Holy See, accepts that speaking in Tongues and other Charisms are part of the Mission of the Church. To understand this, look to Hellenization when Alexander the Great pulled all the land from Macedonia to Pakistan into 1 Empire, which was then taken by Rome. During Hellenization Statue Crafting, which had gone from Egypt/Kemet to Rome traveled East to India where Statues are made of the Gods now, Christians even know call Hindus "Idolators", believing they Worship Statues, when we are Polytheists (meaning we have many Gods); the Muslims call us Islam calls us Mushrikin, or "Those who put a Partner with God". Meaning, for example, teaching that God had a Wife, or that God had Children, etc, this is Mushrikin. During Hellenization Gem Crafting and other Arts moved from India in the East to Rome in the West. Spices, Herbs, Fruits, Animals and Minerals Traveled between Cultures. The Book Aegyptiaca was written in Egypt/Kemet, by Manetho, who was a Priest of Serapis in Sebennytos where Jesus' family fled from Herod 300 years later…

"Manetho, (flourished c. 300 BCE), Egyptian priest who wrote a history of Egypt in Greek, probably commissioned by Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285–246). Manetho’s history has not survived except for some fragments of narrative in Josephus’s treatise“Against Apion” and tables of dynasties, kings, and lengths of reigns given in the works of Julius Africanus, Eusebius, and George Syncellus. The fragments thus preserved showed that Manetho’s work was based on good native sources, perhaps both oral and written. These fragments have been of much service to scholars in determining the succession of kings where the archaeological evidence was inconclusive, and Manetho’s division of the rulers of ancient Egypt into 30 dynasties is still used as the basic framework for ancient Egyptian history." -https://www.britannica.com/biography/Manetho

Berossus wrote Babyloniaca, which was the History of Babylon and Introduced Astrology to the West. You may think of Statues as Eastern, but they came from the West; and you may think of Astrology as Western or Greek, but it comes from the East...

"Berossus T 1-3... a Babylonian, a Chaldean, a priest of Bel (i.e., of Mar­duk), and a contemporary of Alexander the Great (336-­23 b.c.)...Only one work by Berossus is attested, the Babyloniaca, a history of Babylon in three books intended to correct Greek misconceptions about Babylon, which was probably written in 281 b.c." -Encyclopedia Iranica, Vol. IV, Fasc. 2, pp. 165-166

The Bab created a Religion by stopping one day and beginning to preach, eventually being Executed by the Iranian Government, but Prophesying a Messiah who is thought to have come shortly after, by which time Iran had become Territory divided in Civil War based on exterminating this Religion...

"The Bāb, byname of Mīrzā ʿAlī Moḥammad of Shīrāz, (born October 20, 1819, or October 9, 1820, Shīrāz, Iran—died July 9, 1850, Tabrīz), a merchant’s son whose claim to be the Bāb (Gateway) to the hidden imām (the perfect embodiment of Islamic faith) gave rise to the Bābī religion and made him one of the three central figures of the Bahāʾī Faith." -https://www.britannica.com/biography/the-Bab

Noble Drew Ali is the Founder of the Moorish Science Temple, which is similar to the Shriners, but consider themselves to be Moors, of the Moorish Empire, Morrocan but on a broader scale...

"Noble Drew Ali was the founder and prophet of the Moorish Science Temple of America, the first mass religious community in the history of American Islam and the black nationalist model for the Nation of Islam. He was born Timothy Drew on January 8, 1886, to parents who were ex-slaves in North Carolina. His earliest followers believed that he was an orphan for most of his childhood and was raised by the Cherokee Indians. After several years as a merchant seaman, he established the Canaanite Temple, the first Moorish-American community, in Newark, New Jersey, in 1913. In the 1920s, he renamed his community several times, as the Moorish Holy Temple of Science, the Moorish Science Temple of America, and the Moorish Divine and National Movement of North America, Inc., and founded new temples in several midwestern and southern cities. The Moorish-American community grew to approximately thirty thousand members and was the largest Islamic community in the United States before the ascendancy of the Nation of Islam in the 1950s." -https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/legal-and-political-magazines/noble-drew-ali-1886-1929-religious-leader

"The Vatican’s influence crosses borders and subverts states; it is a metaphysical kingdom, although one with a very real, physical seat. That seat, the Holy See or Vatican City, is so synonymous with Christianity today that it is easy to forget its roots in pagan Rome’s darkest hours. But they are there, buttressing the spiritual state that stands today, counterpointing and reinforcing it.

For the Vatican – itself a pagan term, referring to the Etruscan goddess who guarded the necropolis on Vatican hill and later gave rise to the Latin word for prophecy – was built on a site where Christians were slaughtered and tortured. Including, of course, one of the greatest Christians in all hagiography: Saint Peter himself.

The notorious Caligula built an enormous amphitheater here for public games and races, placing in its center an obelisk from Heliopolis, Egypt in 37 BC. But Nero, arguably the greatest scourge of Christians in the Roman Empire, was said to have been responsible for the execution of St Peter. After the great fire of Rome in 64 AD, Nero blamed the Christians and persecuted them with greater zeal.

Legend has it that the apostle asked to be crucified upside down as he deemed himself unworthy of being killed in the same manner as Christ. Peter’s body was flung into a pauper’s grave, but later recovered and, according to legend, still lies in the heart of the Vatican necropolis.

After Nero’s death, many of his sporting arenas, including the one on Vatican hill, were abandoned or converted. Slowly, this site became a place of pilgrimage and ultimately the seat of the first ever Basilica of Saint Peter, commissioned by Constantine. According to legend, the obelisk that remains from the days of Caligula also marks the spot where Peter was killed. It became a kind of beacon for Christians; many others conquered from the ancient world were dug up, restored and placed across the city by Pope Sisto V (1585-1590), who wanted to help pilgrims to Rome map out their route. If you could followthe line of obelisks set up across the city, you knew you were on the right track. When the Basilica was rebuilt during the Renaissance, the obelisk retained its crucial place in the heart of the square.

The new Basilica’s dome was famously designed by Michelangelo in old age; supposed to represent the head of Christ, the great artist’s assistants feared that Michelangelo’s design was too steep, and softened the shape of the dome. The Basilica is said to stand for the body of Christ, while Bernini’s wonderful curved colonnades are the arms of God, welcoming pilgrims and embracing them. The pilgrim, first seeing this glorious site, could be cowed into fearful submission, if he failed to look up at the saints and apostles on top of the colonnades. Triumphant and encouraging, these saints remind the visitor that they too were once full of sin but have been changed by their faith. Even today, the casual tourist on a trip to the Vatican senses the architect’s purpose and is transported back to the time when this great story began." -https://www.romaexperience.com/rome-blog/true-story-of-the-vatican/

You don't think there a number of events that are not necessarily predetermined, but inevitable?

You don't see how the Suit of Pentacles, is the Playing Card Suit of Diamonds, and does not represent money, but any Precious Metal, Gemstone, Currency, etc. Including non-Tangible Currency, such as Affluence mentioned on the 10 of Pentacles.

The 10 of Pentacles could also be seen to represent the different Tribes associated with each Blockchain. There are things that are simply bound to happen. This is what meant when people say "History repeats itself" and others who say "History does not repeat itself but it ryhmes". And the Bible saying "there is nothing new under the Sun" which also has an expanded meaning in terms of human made creations, which again emphasizes the point that Gold, is Currency, is Cryptocurrency, there is nothing new under the Sun and Fate will be what Fate will be, regardless of the new Medium we choose to operate with, it is the same thing.