Topic: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why??? - page 2. (Read 2155 times)

I bet Spoetnik is TradeFortress.

Here have another read through especially this first part. Then consider the slashing of the minting to magnify this loot. Then consider if it was all an accident why not relaunch after the first few hours of taking all the coins. You have one of the other devs saying he had hundreds of thousands of coins after just a few hours after launch. If you took so many hours to decide ULTRA SCAMMY and SCAM are so different and that you can still cheerlead on an ultra scammy coin on the guise of doing it to piss off a group of people you say promote an equally bad scammy coin then that is strange. You can not cheer on an ultra scammy coin and expect to lecture on any other projects you consider scammy or ultra scammy.


If you are not longer willing to produce fud on dash on the basis you believe it was all just a series of  accidents then you are no longer able to produce fud on any other projects else it is double standards. Even then cheerleading an ultra scammy coin is very questionable

I am not against you personally. However if you joined dash knowing what you know then that is reprehensible. Hating xmr is no excuse. You must not support ultra scammy projects for any reason. Fighting xmr or arguing with them is a separate issue. Don't divert on dash threads to xmr at every opportunity. Make your own xmr threads. Even if you believe xmr is a scammy project it does not make dash a project you should be cheerleading and praising.

To me it looks like you have been paid off on dash and have done a 180. I have not seen you cheerlead or be positive regarding any other scammy projects so that is the only viable explanation. Although at first I rejected other peoples claims this was the case. It is only now that I notice you on every anti dash thread protecting and diverting. If you stop this then you will no longer look like a paid dash shill.

Your explanation to me seems dubious at best so far because you have been ready to accept a project is a scam for far far less evidence than that of the dash scam.

Stop it now

1. because it does no good now many suspect you're a dash employee (it's like hearing qwizzie with his lame excuses)
2. because if you stop now perhaps people will forget about it and put it down to a bad decision and no permanent damage done to your credibility.



Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.


SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash


This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white.

1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed
2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed.

here are your victims.

3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed.


Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers.

I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it.

Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer.


Threads examining the evidence of the captive instamine and reduction of the minting to magnify such instamining ...PROOF OF SCAM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-the-darkcoindashdashpay-instamine-matters-999886

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-darkcoin-instamine-2-millions-drks-50-of-darkcoin-in-circulation-560138

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/darkcoin-now-known-as-dash-big-scam-lets-take-a-closer-look-559028

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/darkcoin-aka-dash-the-biggest-ongoing-scam-in-crypto-995710

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dash-aka-darkcoin-victim-resources-999084

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-darkcoin-instamine-2-millions-drks-50-of-darkcoin-in-circulation-560138

In an indirect way maybe yes.

The Monero guys are sly clever sleazy profiteers who will in fact bullshit when it suits them.
THAT is what bothers me.
They parade around as having a perfect track record which is bullshit.
I know i have been here since Monero started.

I never paid much attention to Dash and i had gave Dark Coin FUD way back for the reasons i mentioned earlier.
I never did see the name change.. i don't think i even clued in for a long while too.
Dash guys have flown under my radar because they seem to be a lot less likely to spin bullshit here.

Is Dash a scam ? Tough to say.. you have to gauge the data and come to a conclusion.
Don't forget i have "defended" iGotSpots along the same lines here too.. and boy did i get flamed for that.
What i am after here is real honest info put on the table (forum)

I have called Monero a scam before but i can't really call them a scam anymore than Dash.
Confirmed scam and "scammy" are not the same.
You need to know the intent..
Because Evan changed the reward early on is bad but was it a way to get more coins ?
I really have no idea at all.
I would have to take that and then look at other aspects.. such as a track record of honesty.
Which is where Monero burns my ass again.. they *DO* have a long massive track record of lying and playing games and bullshiting etc.
Vs Dash ?
I add up the columns and i see one worse than the other.
The data is on the web for you all to get and check yourselves.

Do both sides use puppet accounts etc ? of course.. that is not proof of scam though.
I tend to see 1 side CAUSING more problems than the other.
Seems to me the Monero gang is worse and then tries to come off as perfect little angels
..denying everything all along for years.

I don't care much about either.. i just see one as being worse that's all.

Ah maybe I am too gullible. This crypto ecosystem is a hornet's nest.

He is egging you all on so as to boost his name recall on this forum, which boosts at least his ego, if not also apparently his wallet.

Everybody has a price .... 

Hmmmm??? It's almost as if someone is paying him for his services...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-would-you-hire-spoetnik-to-advertise-your-coin-1236914

You can't protect and be a cheerleader for a scam to piss other shills off. Does not work like that. You are either against scams or not.

He does not need to go on every anti dash thread and challenge anyone xmr shills or not. He is simply using this as an excuse.

He tries to criticise anyone on anti dash threads for any number of reasons, and will not confirm he believes dash is a scam.

Why not?

Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills. 

I think everyone has a price, so is SPOETNIK. Another thing is change, change is a constant thing in life maybe he changed is opinion on Dash because of Amanda the Dash Detailed show host (just kidding).

Stop swearing and just answer the question now if you say you have answered it already. Your childish brand of foul language is indicative of someone who is loath to answer the real questions.




IS DASH A SCAM - YES OR NO??

everytime I hear xmr  xmr xmr  you have never shown one shred of proof or even anything that suggest I care about monero. I already told you I have less than 0.5 BTC of monero even at these prices. I am not sure it is even that much. I have never been part of xmr community and I am an active part of BBR which is the obvious xmr competition. I hold 100 alts all around 0.1-25 BTC worth. I have no care about xmr at all. This again is merely a diversion to answering my question.

You on the other hand. Your post history shows a definite cheerleading for dash. Right after offering your fud/protection services on this board. You were likely bought off by dash. It is terrible how you sold out to them of all coins.

So answer the question now.

I see you just today lecturing pepple on supporting known scams when you yourself are doing exactly that.

You are on every anti dash thread trying to divert to other schemes.

At first I was happy to write this 180 degree pov as xmr hatred for what they did or apparently did to him I never looked into it. But I now think this is a guise for just being a dash shill. I mean anyone who points out the facts about dash spoetnik says is an xmr shill??? really every person even though many of these probably have no interest in xmr. It is just dash shilling and protecting and using xmr as a reason for it.

He should make xmr threads rather than appearing on every anti dash thread bringing up xmr and saying it is worse? I have no issue with him going on about xmr when ever he likes but using it to justify dash scam is bullshit.

Is dash a scam spoetnik yes or no?  I mean you were sure it was an ULTRA SCAMMY coin before now you can't even answer it is a scam?

Is that part of your dash payroll contract you are never allowed to say it is a scam again?

I think the Monero users are getting out of hand...  
Just because someone hates Monero and their developers does not mean that you can accuse random people on the Internet of supporting Dash. Just a reminder, there are a lot of shill accounts for Dash AND Monero. It's quite funny how Monero bag holders get angry when spoetnik says Monero is just as bad. Seems like you guys can't take criticism.

See my rating ?
You know how often i have had to explain why the Monero assholes ruined it ?

YES ..i do enjoy seeing the usual suspects suffer.. they deserve it.
They have been here puttering around slinging bullshit for YEARS.

You have failed to understand certain facts. One of which is that Cryptocurrency is more than a single individual different thoughts & opinions. Regardless of the fact that Spoetnik's opinion about Dash Coin has changed doesn't mean anything.


Despite the fact that Bitcoin is a successful Cryptocurrency doesn't mean it doesn't have critics or people that condemns it. Same goes for DashCoin & Spoetnik.

"$50 a coin asshole."

to even put your lips around that ...

adults debating the same BULLSHIT over and over, OVER AND OVER THE SAME TRASH

you guys should be ashamed on how retarded you all look



why the fuck do i keep coming back on this shithole forum?

All Spoetnik can say is you are Monero Shill, but if anyone check  cryptohunter posts will see that last 100 posts was none about Monero. lol Nada. He posts about 1000 other coins but not about Monero.

I post in many Monero threads and in last 3 years I saw  cryptohunter posting there rarely if ever at all. He does post a lot about DASH in DASH threads.


About OP it dont really matter. There are some people on this forum that care about Crypto and others that gives a shit. Spoetnik is one of them. So let him enjoy his scam coins.

Your an idiot.

This topic will be deleted like the others from you.
It's self modded  

I have already answered your questions and yet you keep badgering me because i keep pointing out that Monero idiots are jealous of Dash.. and they ARE !

$50 a coin asshole.

If your gay little shitcoin Monero hinges on the popularity of BitcoinTalk.org Altcoin forum section then you failed son.

You have made a LOT of topics on me here whining up a storm..
News Flash: no one gives a fuck.

GROW UP suckhole brat chucklefuck profiteer.

Oh and by the way that is the 3rd time lately you posted that cherry picked taken out of context comment from me from 3 fucking years ago.
No.. i didn't like Dark Coin dumb fuck LOL

Does anyone really care what the fuck that loser Spoetnik thinks or not

Comeon , can everyone do a favour and ignore him, that would be great


And also, stop publicizing him by creating a new thread in the Altcoin Discussion..ok? alright?


Have a nice day!

"I don't think he is complicit with Dash's pump."

implicit ... maybe ... or Amanda, since she's damn near already in Canada, found a nuk to fluffer for her.

BTC ... spoet loves.
LTC ... spoet loves, possibly.
DASH ... hits #3 MC ... suckin the ash out of that trash can!  
ETH ... cometh the huffle-puffle!