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Quote from: AliMan on February 24, 2021, 04:48:58 PM

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I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.

Yes, I think the casino will not suggest or force the YouTuber to play gambling because that will be the YouTuber's decision.
If the YouTuber can try to gamble on the site he promoted, that can give the site more viewers or visitors. Still, the casino needs to warn the YouTuber or their viewers that playing gambling will be their responsibility and never use big money to gamble.
That will be a good suggestion to every people who watch the advertisement, and the viewers will see that the casino gives a warning before they gamble.
That kind of sponsor is one way to promote their platform so that the casino can grow day by day.

Indeed, promotions is always a good potential to grow a certain business in order to compete with several gambling sites. We have our freedom to choose and with respect to bad or good, that just depends on a perspective of an individual who judge a certain idea about gambling. Because, generally you can't figure our a person who been ruined by gambling and it's only the effect of his bad habits we consider gambling to become bad. With respect on sponsorship there's no definite judgement but purely business.

I think people who follow the Youtuber to playing gambling will not think about Youtuber's invitation because he will busy playing gambling on that site.
So if you are watching the ads on Youtube coincidentally, you can just skip the ads and watch the other ads, which will not make you curious about the gambling games.
But unfortunately, many people do not know about that, and they visit that gambling site and playing for some rounds using the free money or welcome bonus from the site.
The sponsorship will benefit both Youtube and the gambling site, and people will need to be wise if they watch the ads.

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Quote from: traderethereum on February 23, 2021, 11:23:50 PM

Quote from: ecnalubma on February 23, 2021, 12:15:52 PM

I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.

Yes, I think the casino will not suggest or force the YouTuber to play gambling because that will be the YouTuber's decision.
If the YouTuber can try to gamble on the site he promoted, that can give the site more viewers or visitors. Still, the casino needs to warn the YouTuber or their viewers that playing gambling will be their responsibility and never use big money to gamble.
That will be a good suggestion to every people who watch the advertisement, and the viewers will see that the casino gives a warning before they gamble.
That kind of sponsor is one way to promote their platform so that the casino can grow day by day.

Indeed, promotions is always a good potential to grow a certain business in order to compete with several gambling sites. We have our freedom to choose and with respect to bad or good, that just depends on a perspective of an individual who judge a certain idea about gambling. Because, generally you can't figure our a person who been ruined by gambling and it's only the effect of his bad habits we consider gambling to become bad. With respect on sponsorship there's no definite judgement but purely business.

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This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.

Even if they are promoting a legit casino, I don't like it too much because the person who is taking money will try and highlight only the good things about a casino and avoid talking the weak points. It is rather better to promote a casino and use your affiliate links because this way you can talk more freely about the casino and some problems that might exist. Like if a casino has manual withdrawals then you can say it when promoting affiliate links but the same can't be done when you are taking money to promote the casino.

The whole idea of paid-promotion ultimately causes problems to the players and hence I suggest affiliate marketing is the better version pf paid-promotion and also gives the referrer more commissions in long term.

Usually people promoting casinos through their referral links will also highlight only the good side of the casino and they will post a positive video showing strategies that will lead to winning results. This way, the streamer incentives the viewer to reproduce the same strategy on the site, as the exhibited strategy indicates it works fine on that specific site.
For most people this approach should looks ridiculous, but there is still a public which fall for this and generate some income through the referral link for the streamer.

They wont really be putting or allocating budget for this if this weren't effective at all.Of course there are still people whom do fall with this very basic scheme
and this is why this kind of promotion and advertisement is still effective somewhat because not all would really be having that the same mindset when it comes to things like this.
Just like what others said that I don't see anything wrong with this because its up to our own will if we decide to play or not after we do see those
streamers out there showing off some strategies or awesome bets on a certain site.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on February 24, 2021, 09:33:25 AM

Quote from: vintages on February 22, 2021, 03:59:42 PM

This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.

Even if they are promoting a legit casino, I don't like it too much because the person who is taking money will try and highlight only the good things about a casino and avoid talking the weak points. It is rather better to promote a casino and use your affiliate links because this way you can talk more freely about the casino and some problems that might exist. Like if a casino has manual withdrawals then you can say it when promoting affiliate links but the same can't be done when you are taking money to promote the casino.

The whole idea of paid-promotion ultimately causes problems to the players and hence I suggest affiliate marketing is the better version pf paid-promotion and also gives the referrer more commissions in long term.

Usually people promoting casinos through their referral links will also highlight only the good side of the casino and they will post a positive video showing strategies that will lead to winning results. This way, the streamer incentives the viewer to reproduce the same strategy on the site, as the exhibited strategy indicates it works fine on that specific site.
For most people this approach should looks ridiculous, but there is still a public which fall for this and generate some income through the referral link for the streamer.

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Quote from: vintages on February 22, 2021, 03:59:42 PM

This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.

Even if they are promoting a legit casino, I don't like it too much because the person who is taking money will try and highlight only the good things about a casino and avoid talking the weak points. It is rather better to promote a casino and use your affiliate links because this way you can talk more freely about the casino and some problems that might exist. Like if a casino has manual withdrawals then you can say it when promoting affiliate links but the same can't be done when you are taking money to promote the casino.

The whole idea of paid-promotion ultimately causes problems to the players and hence I suggest affiliate marketing is the better version pf paid-promotion and also gives the referrer more commissions in long term.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on February 23, 2021, 12:15:52 PM

I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.

Yes, I think the casino will not suggest or force the YouTuber to play gambling because that will be the YouTuber's decision.
If the YouTuber can try to gamble on the site he promoted, that can give the site more viewers or visitors. Still, the casino needs to warn the YouTuber or their viewers that playing gambling will be their responsibility and never use big money to gamble.
That will be a good suggestion to every people who watch the advertisement, and the viewers will see that the casino gives a warning before they gamble.
That kind of sponsor is one way to promote their platform so that the casino can grow day by day.

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In return for the money, each site carries out its activities and has a purpose. Due to the weakness of the computer system just as a hacker can hack and run as he pleases so can hack a human head and run as he pleases he also hacked people's healthy thoughts their desire to understand the harm of the drug or to eliminate it i think casino is quite a sponsor from streamer. In the case of streamers the market needs to be reviewed a lot, but casinos are popular in many places and it is easy to find the right purpose by analyzing the market in the right way if you play for money you have to review the market.

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I saw different streamer or YouTuber using a banner or advertisement on their intro about their sponsors which is a paid thing too so that's why they include this to their edits, to those people who uses a balance came from the different websites the sponsors give just a small amount so the promoter will use this, of course, its a quite bit loss to them if they give a large amount of money and then the endorser will take a withdrawal too. Of course, the sponsors will go through different platform and promotions like in e-sports, sports, casual and other related things there is possible gambling inside. It's a potential user to the sponsors if they expand more about their promotions.

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Quote from: 3meek on February 20, 2021, 01:41:17 AM

Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy

I think we all know that for the most part any review you see online has some ulterior motive, that is not really the issue, as I have said if a person receives some money to test the functions of a casino and then that person gives his honest opinion about it then there is nothing really wrong, but if he gives a positive review in exchange for the money then that is no longer a fair review and it is nothing more than a fake review in which case the review itself is not worth anything if that is the case.

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Also a streamer will protect their watchers too because it will cause you blaming to the other people once you promoting not good gambling sites.

This is hard for streamers that have kid viewers. I've seen streamers for certain games and some casinos are also sponsoring them because they have the game on their bookie. But some streamers don't mind about younger audience as long as they give disclaimer and warning for those younger audiences that they have. It is on the one that's being sponsored and also to the sponsor if there's a lot of viewers that will saw their ad. It's just another business matter from streamers to the casinos.

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If a casino makes a review with a YouTuber with money for advertising, then that's not a bad thing. If a YouTuber gets a sponsor, it can be very useful for him, he can earn some extras through his videos. But in this case, YouTuber must take responsibility and make a review video on a good project, maintaining its own reputation and the loyalty of the viewers.

Because after watching his video, many people will be interested in using that casino, so if that website is bad, it will be dangerous for gamblers.

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I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.

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Quote from: dimonstration on February 22, 2021, 03:22:15 PM

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Once you a promote a project make sure you will get a money because that is your part of your advertise or streamer to get money because there is no free now. But it depends on their agreement on what they do on money they get on the casino while their advertising it. Also a streamer will protect their watchers too because it will cause you blaming to the other people once you promoting not good gambling sites.

Streamers, Bloggers especially those influential should be paid well depending on their discussion, it can be cash or thru playing in their casino it will depend on them. What’s good if those promoter also really use their casino so it will seem natural whenever the promoter use and promote their website. What will be bad is when they us their clips but never paid them. Streamers and vloggers now were beneficial in every online business now.

With this hi-tech era then its totally normal for these online influencers would really be that relevant in terms of advertisement since majority of people now are doing online
most of the time which means traffic is really immense where they can really make use of these vloggers,influencial people on net to take advantage when it comes
to exposure and product/service awareness.Of course they would really be discussing about payments which is normal.I dont see any wrong with it
as long it doesnt involve any form of deception or non fairness.

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This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.

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Once you a promote a project make sure you will get a money because that is your part of your advertise or streamer to get money because there is no free now. But it depends on their agreement on what they do on money they get on the casino while their advertising it. Also a streamer will protect their watchers too because it will cause you blaming to the other people once you promoting not good gambling sites.

Streamers, Bloggers especially those influential should be paid well depending on their discussion, it can be cash or thru playing in their casino it will depend on them. What’s good if those promoter also really use their casino so it will seem natural whenever the promoter use and promote their website. What will be bad is when they us their clips but never paid them. Streamers and vloggers now were beneficial in every online business now.

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Quote from: Cling18 on February 18, 2021, 10:36:00 PM

It will actually both beneficial for both sides. It's a part of business and promoters and streamers really deserve to be paid or sponsored because they're promoting or advertising a certain site. As for me, it's also important that they'll receive sponsor money so they will be able to test the site as well. It's a marketing strategy but an opportunity for streamers as well.

Some sites will award the streamer with 50 free spins on some slots and the streamer keeps the winnings, which is something I really like because we as viewers get a better understanding how particular slots work while the person streaming gets some money for his efforts.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on February 19, 2021, 09:24:43 AM

Money is good as long as your are promoting a legit casino so you are not risking your future for few thousands dollars. There is nothing wrong with influencers getting such sponsor for promotion and that is why they become influencer or just take advantage of being one of them.

I actually used to hate slots until I saw some guys playing games like Fruit Party and Sweet Bonanza which is how I actually got into slots otherwise I used to just bet on sports and occasionally roll dice and maybe some card games. I love the concept of people streaming and playing slots but only real and paying ones, some slots are terrible and I believe their RTP is around 50-60 or even less. Good ones have RTP of 90 or around that mark.

Guys always check RTP if possible when playing a slot game, RTP means expected Return To Player which basically determines the house edge. Anything from 90-95 is normal and good.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on February 17, 2021, 01:55:31 PM

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Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:

Fully sponsor money
This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
Bonus deposit sponsor
This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

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is that fully sponsor money that you mention above is the same thing as a free bet?
you can only withdraw the money that you get from your winning by using that free money.

also, I believe that bonus deposit sponsor has the same term and conditions as a free bet.
the difference is, the free bet bonus is bigger compared to a regular user since YouTubers are influential.

sometimes I got a sponsorship agreement that has some strict disclosure that said, I can't say the content is a sponsored, promoted, paid content, or something related to that.
they want me to make soft-selling content that looks organic. So, I can say that those YouTubers might be doing the same thing.

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Quote from: just_Alice on February 21, 2021, 04:50:48 PM

I think it's okay if casinos advertise using streamers/youtubers and sponsor money. It's a fair and, I think, effective way to increase your brand recognition and attract a new audience, no one should blame them for that. As for me, this kind of advertisement is even better in some ways, than, say, a web banner. The video allows you to see the software, some cool features, and some pitfalls at the same time, these vids are often honest and straightforward about everything, which I like. Plus, like you said, it can be entertaining.

It is fair definitely, I don't get why OP thinks that there should be a choice between good and bad. I think that it is the other way around, are the sponsors getting a good person to promote their product/services which is in this case an online casino? I think that web banner has its limits though, with sponsored content creators, they can artfully present your product/services plus they already have an established audiences that may get curious and check out what their favorite Youtuber or Streamer is promoting.

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I think it's okay if casinos advertise using streamers/youtubers and sponsor money. It's a fair and, I think, effective way to increase your brand recognition and attract a new audience, no one should blame them for that. As for me, this kind of advertisement is even better in some ways, than, say, a web banner. The video allows you to see the software, some cool features, and some pitfalls at the same time, these vids are often honest and straightforward about everything, which I like. Plus, like you said, it can be entertaining.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on February 21, 2021, 11:08:42 AM

I fully agree with you that while taking money from casinos to promote some of their games is a great idea because it helps the viewers keep engaged and the streamer also makes some money while playing the games and entertaining the audience but they must make sure that the due diligence is done and they should test the integrity of the games and the legitimacy of the casino itself.

I myself love streams from Edward of stake (Eddie) on weekends but at the same time if someone is promoting a scam like 1xbit then I will never appreciate the streamer no matter who it is.

I agree with you. In general, I have no complaints about the casino ads. I have already written here that I do not see anything wrong with it.

However, if the streamer is engaged in deception or advertising fraudulent casino. Then I have a negative attitude to it appears. Because he does not appreciate his audience.

Its on streamers responsibility for him to accept out only tasks or offers that do came from legit gambling sites or companies
because advertising a scam or shady site or service will really be making out some serious negative reflections towards him
and thats the thing they dont want to happen.You are right and same as yours that i dont have any against with this one
because its just part of advertising which we do know its been a typical part of a business.

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