Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good? - page 6.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on February 18, 2021, 06:48:14 PM

In my opinion, the good thing is related to sponsor money from casino, because it can increase Youtuber's income. And the casino is profitable too with promotions on the YouTube platform. This is mutually beneficial for both parties. Most importantly, youtubers must have the integrity that they don't promote casinos that are cheating and scams. Because the current YouTube audience is very large and continues to increase, so if promoting bad casinos. There will be many victims who will be harmed. So go ahead and fully sponsor or bonus deposit sponsor, both in my opinion are as good.

I fully agree with you that while taking money from casinos to promote some of their games is a great idea because it helps the viewers keep engaged and the streamer also makes some money while playing the games and entertaining the audience but they must make sure that the due diligence is done and they should test the integrity of the games and the legitimacy of the casino itself.

I myself love streams from Edward of stake (Eddie) on weekends but at the same time if someone is promoting a scam like 1xbit then I will never appreciate the streamer no matter who it is.

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Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy

There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

Better do your own research.

There are a lot of kinds of streamers/YouTubers and not all of them are honest with their reviews. They are also smart and might throw us off with some discounts and promos but it is better to do your own research or maybe ask about it here in the forum. Another thing is that as far as I know, ads on Youtube that are related to alcohol and gambling can be turned off. If viewers can do this, why accept those ads in the first place?

There are streamers and Bloggers in our country who had promoted some applications or investment schemes which I think they haven't reviewed at all. This happens to a lot of bloggers or streamers since they only care about getting paid for what they are advertising. They should consider their responsibility as an influencer and should be honest with their reviews whether they are paid or not. That is why as a viewer due diligence is still needed even if something is promoted by famous streamers or bloggers, make your own research.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on February 20, 2021, 01:36:19 PM

Quote from: 3meek on February 20, 2021, 02:41:17 AM

Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy

There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

Better do your own research.

There are a lot of kinds of streamers/YouTubers and not all of them are honest with their reviews. They are also smart and might throw us off with some discounts and promos but it is better to do your own research or maybe ask about it here in the forum. Another thing is that as far as I know, ads on Youtube that are related to alcohol and gambling can be turned off. If viewers can do this, why accept those ads in the first place?

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Quote from: 3meek on February 20, 2021, 02:41:17 AM

Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy

There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.

When you have big YouTube channel or any other platform social media platform, the business will reach out to you to promote their business and services. Its upto the person if he first research the platform and give correct feedback about the platform. If someone takes the sponsor money and promote the scam gambling project, he will lose his audience.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 21, 2021, 04:20:34 AM

It's never bad. Gambling is a business, it's just like an entertainment where people spend and hope for a chance to win.
If promoters are allowed to promote cigars or liquor which is bad for our health why would they prevent gambling from getting promoted?

There's no sense on this honestly, people have different interest in life, they can do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal.

This make sense when you have ads of the things which re not healthy for life then no way not to have the gambling ads. Just like on cigarette a cautionary note same way while on gambling ads you can have a cautionary notes and also till the time it is legal in a country or where the ads are placed it should be all fine.

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Quote from: plr on February 20, 2021, 07:29:26 PM

Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

More often than not, when one is paid to promote a service/product, he will definitely cherry pick mostly the positive information and facts Tongue

but casinos can make up for it, if they decide this then they can come out fully transparent to the audiences and will have more reputation which is if the casino pays the sponsored person to actively respond to criticism and making suggestions for improving the site, it will lead to a win-win situation for all, the casino, the sponsored person and the customers

Well, it is a paid advertisement though, it isn't that odd that those who got paid would showcase the positive sides of what their presenting. Still, it isn't necessarily bad since most people tend to look at what they need on something, and an advertiser presenting the positives of the system should be more than enough for them to know if that's what they're looking for or not. Not to mention that most casinos in the end, are almost copies of the same thing, with a few unique things only. At this point, gamblers just choose casinos that are quite friendly to their users.

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It's never bad. Gambling is a business, it's just like an entertainment where people spend and hope for a chance to win.
If promoters are allowed to promote cigars or liquor which is bad for our health why would they prevent gambling from getting promoted?

There's no sense on this honestly, people have different interest in life, they can do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal.

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Quote from: plr on February 20, 2021, 07:29:26 PM

Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

More often than not, when one is paid to promote a service/product, he will definitely cherry pick mostly the positive information and facts Tongue

but casinos can make up for it, if they decide this then they can come out fully transparent to the audiences and will have more reputation which is if the casino pays the sponsored person to actively respond to criticism and making suggestions for improving the site, it will lead to a win-win situation for all, the casino, the sponsored person and the customers

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Quote from: Mauser on February 21, 2021, 03:32:02 AM

Quote from: plr on February 20, 2021, 07:29:26 PM

Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

I fully agree,the casino needs to advertise their products as well and a sponsorship is the best way to do so. It is not about tricking people into your games, rather to show the games are working and what kind of possibilities the gamblers have. With the right sponsorship in place a casino can reach a lot of new customers. And as long as the casino is straightforward and open about their promotions than it's a pretty good deal for us gamblers.

Sponsoring gamers and athletes I think is the new game they have these days. They use to fight over the ranking on search engines that they are trying to get some organic traffic but now they find it not worth it. Sportsbet sponsored a soccer team and from there it builds its reputation and marketing. For someone who bets in soccer games, he will instantly notice the casino.

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Quote from: plr on February 20, 2021, 07:29:26 PM

Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

I fully agree,the casino needs to advertise their products as well and a sponsorship is the best way to do so. It is not about tricking people into your games, rather to show the games are working and what kind of possibilities the gamblers have. With the right sponsorship in place a casino can reach a lot of new customers. And as long as the casino is straightforward and open about their promotions than it's a pretty good deal for us gamblers.

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Quote from: Oilacris on February 20, 2021, 04:52:41 PM

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Quote from: 3meek on February 20, 2021, 02:41:17 AM

Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy

There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.

Every streamers or vloggers are different, some of them are honest and some of them are deceiving and just trying to shill out on what had been paid for you to do so.

Its not surprising to have this kind of behavior since those are aiming on making money and if they do need to be somewhat biased in terms of their review then
its up to theirs.

As a watcher or follower then you would most likely be falling out to believe but we do all have that common sense thing where you can spot out
if something is unusual.

Currently in this bullish market, any streamer can tell you that anything or casino, site, can be excellent, because firstly you will see if you receive good pay and second if you see a future, sometimes they get followers because they say what people want to hear and not what they really should say.

Those of me who are more famous spend some time researching and studying, their followers are more loyal, even if they make mistakes, but you have to remember that everything is a business model and that everyone seeks their benefit.

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It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

this is where integrity of the endorser comes in. you will see his moral values in this regard. even if he is sponsoring a gambling site, he should make sure that he is promoting a legal one with no existing valid scam allegations. a responsible endorser knows what he is promoting and not only because he is after for the money that he will get.

But sometimes, the endorser does not know about illegal gambling or legal gambling because not all endorser will try to find out about that company or the sites.
As long as he can see the money behind that sponsorship, he will try to give the best for the company which hire them.
It will be a mistake for the endorser if he does that because it can risk his career.
Maybe the endorser needs to be careful if he gets an offer from the company, any company, and it will better to search for them before he accepts that.

It's impossible that they will not do any research on what they are endorsing since it's a dumbest decision to accept whatever it is as long as they will get sponsor and be paid. I know they do a research about this but there are influencer especially those small ones who doesn't care about reputation since the one they aim is to get the paycheck and leave once there job is done.

Well, that can happen. Maybe they do not research for the details, and maybe they do not even think about the illegal and legal gambling site.
Not all of them will do that, and we know that if people can get offers, some big money will not research because the money tempts them.
Some influencers on the blog do not relate to their field, but they accept offers about something different from what they did.
But that will be up to them because that is their job and field.
Besides that, we do not know much about them.
Maybe if that influence is our friend, we can suggest them to research the company before deciding.

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Quote from: Oilacris on February 20, 2021, 04:52:41 PM

Every streamers or vloggers are different, some of them are honest and some of them are deceiving and just trying to shill out on what had been paid for you to do so.

Its not surprising to have this kind of behavior since those are aiming on making money and if they do need to be somewhat biased in terms of their review then
its up to theirs.

As a watcher or follower then you would most likely be falling out to believe but we do all have that common sense thing where you can spot out
if something is unusual.

This is more true for low-level streamers and bloggers. Any top streamer understands that his main source of income is his reputation and audience attention. If he convinces to deceive his audience then he will quickly lose everything. Therefore, even if some top streamer is mistaken and advertises a controversial thing, then when claims appear, they usually apologize and clarify the issue.

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Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

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Quote from: Becky666 on February 20, 2021, 02:02:54 PM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on February 20, 2021, 01:36:19 PM

Quote from: 3meek on February 20, 2021, 02:41:17 AM

Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy

There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.

Every streamers or vloggers are different, some of them are honest and some of them are deceiving and just trying to shill out on what had been paid for you to do so.

Its not surprising to have this kind of behavior since those are aiming on making money and if they do need to be somewhat biased in terms of their review then
its up to theirs.

As a watcher or follower then you would most likely be falling out to believe but we do all have that common sense thing where you can spot out
if something is unusual.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on February 20, 2021, 01:36:19 PM

Quote from: 3meek on February 20, 2021, 02:41:17 AM

Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy

There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.

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Quote from: 3meek on February 20, 2021, 02:41:17 AM

Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy

There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

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The most common in this case is Fully sponsor money. I am intro marketing field and while this kind of advertisement easily brings more customers to your company casino, it is unethical. The casino that runs this kind of marketing is mistaken and they have a very bad team. I strongly believe that marketing must strengthen the connection between the company and the user, must make a user interested in the product/service in a way where the user is pleased and doesn't blame you. You shouldn't make him a victim of marketing, it works well in short term but in long term - it sucks. And the aim of every business should be long term, you have to gain trust during this process and not negativity from customers and society.

At least that's how I think

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on February 19, 2021, 05:22:40 PM

I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.

There are, of course, situations when you can not be on the side of the streamer. For example, some casinos can give money to the streamer or blogger from the players who lost their referral link. Here I find it much harder to say that this is normal. Because if in the first situation, the steamer gets paid for advertising, then in the second situation, he is simply interested in losing his viewers. And he will actively offer to play to his viewers.

I didn't understand a word from your last paragraph. From what I have understood so far, you are saying that streamers are paid money from people who lost their referral links? What do you exactly mean here? It makes no sense at all. Why would any streamer be paid from other people instead of the casino itself? That's like we are paying our money to a streamer for sharing their gambling activity for no reason.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on February 17, 2021, 02:55:31 PM

Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:

Fully sponsor money
This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
Bonus deposit sponsor
This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

I prefer the second sponsor when playing in a casino, of course, you want the money you've won and you want it to withdraw, even if you are playing for entertainment, in the back of your mind you want to win and taste your winning by having the cash you've won, I consider sponsor money as good for casino marketing, it's part of marketing and not only casinos are doing this.

I agree with you, I won't say ryzaadit is wrong, but I really doubt many casinos are using this "fully sponsor money" system, because nobody is interested in gambling with fake money. The only interest in most of gambling games is to be able to win(or lose) real money precisely Undecided

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