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Quote from: arwin100 on February 18, 2021, 06:22:09 AM

It's not bad if the casino promoted had good reputation and there's no conscience issue for wrecking someone's deposit in that site, but if the streamer/influencer promoting a scam casino which have so many case then it's not really good since he can add up the further damage to the community if he continuously promoting them.

Besides that, the streamer/influencer will get a label as a scammer because of that scam casino.
It can make the streamer/influencer's reputation bad, and I do not think that the streamer/influencer can continue his profession.
Maybe before the streamer/influencer accepts the offers, he can search for more information to see how good the casino reputations and decide if he can accept it or not.
The streamer/influencer needs to be careful with the casino offers because it will relate to his reputation.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on February 17, 2021, 02:55:31 PM

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Actually, in the case of those who consume this type of content, you are interested in seeing results, what that different guy does to make it a winner, a streaming has to be a winner with their own money, play money or money from a sponsor, it doesn't matter.

In reality at some point we all play with sponsored money only that the "name" in allocation is not the same, but the goal "yes". (Bonus-Rakeback-etc)

It does not matter if you are a streaming or not, you have to play that money in the same way as if you deposited it yourself, it is stupid to play differently or risk more than you know or can because it was assigned to you.

The sponsor has brought casino games to the popularity they are today.

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I think it will be bad for the viewers and not the sponsored personalities. What if that personality is a popular celebrity and a lot of teenagers, young people that look up to him and follow him on social media or maybe on youtube. As these teenagers might engage in gambling at a young age that can destroy their lives. These people should be responsible for what they are doing since they have that influence that can drive their supporters.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 17, 2021, 08:39:14 PM

Those Youtuber's just like you said are playing for free. That means, they don't really care much of how much they will lose unlike us gamblers.
We are trying to protect our money making sure every bet we take has lower risk.
Think of it as a paid advertisement only and never mimic whatever strategy they will do.

I never really understood all the people who watch those videos and get excited. I mean, yeah, first of all I don't even know if they're all legit. Some of their reactions look fake. Secondly, it's casino money probably. Thirdly, if it's theirs you don't know how much they lost to make that jackpot hit.

There's really no strategy to most solo gambling games...

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Quote from: ryzaadit on February 17, 2021, 02:55:31 PM

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

Well, as you mentioned that streamer should clearly state that he was paid to promote that casino, for instance if I happen to see one casino name mentioned in many different YouTube channels without them stating the fact that they were paid to do so, I'd stay far away from that casino.

But then again even after that you still can not possibly be remotely sure that their opinion/review about that casino is honest, since they are being paid a good amount of money to do such promotions, for most real gamblers that have some experience with many casino websites these kinds of promotions don't mean anything anyway, and what it only does is make them give these casinos a try and if they happened to like the casino they might keep using them, and I think that's mostly what these casinos are looking for, but that only works for them as a good promotion if they got a decent non-scam casino website that is working fine.

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It's not bad if the casino promoted had good reputation and there's no conscience issue for wrecking someone's deposit in that site, but if the streamer/influencer promoting a scam casino which have so many case then it's not really good since he can add up the further damage to the community if he continuously promoting them.

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I wonder if you are interested in the moral aspect of casinos sponsoring youtubers/streamers that have many betting audiences, or just about the betting sites sponsoring youtubers/streamers to bet on their sites with the sponsor's money?
Well, I think it's better that the audiences know that their Youtubers/streamers bets are sponsored.
If it's about the general moral aspect of being sponsored by betting sites...I'd say it's not bad if the betting site is providing useful/safe services to people and society in a safe betting environment/condition.
Sponsoring a good betting sites is better sponsoring companies that sell junk/bad foods, bad drinks, bad movies/games, and other harmful products and services.

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I remembered when a lot of YouTubers including Rice Gum and Jake Paul advertised loot boxes gambling games on their YouTube channel.

It's been a huge facepalm for me when that happened. The fact that they are not thinking about the content they are making showing a lot of things that a teenager would do since that is the majority of their viewers. For sports personalities, I think it is fine since most of the people that would see that is the adult ones but in YouTube, all ages would see that especially if they are a fan of that Youtube content creator.

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Quote from: maydna on February 17, 2021, 10:16:04 PM

I would not mind accepting sponsor money from the casino, but that will depend on personal because some people don't want to accept the money if that is related to the casino. After all, the sponsor money will be like a bonus to the streamer as they give something to their viewers, and when the casino offers some money to them to be like an ambassador or help the casino promote their site, the streamer can accept it. If the money is enough for the streamer, I think they can accept it and help the casino.

If the sole purpose is also to bring the money out for the audiences.

It's seems no to be that bad, the more money to recieve the more the streamers can share, it's a personal opinion and decision making
as there are people who see gambling as bad business and recieving money from the casino owners are also bad in their reputation but other see the otherway as they can deal with it with correct decision making.

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As long as they admit that it is from their sponsor then there are no problems with that. And why would a streamer or promoter claim that the sponsor's money is his own money, he just not only put his career at risk but also the casino he will promote.

Quote from: maydna on February 17, 2021, 10:16:04 PM

I would not mind accepting sponsor money from the casino, but that will depend on personal because some people don't want to accept the money if that is related to the casino. After all, the sponsor money will be like a bonus to the streamer as they give something to their viewers, and when the casino offers some money to them to be like an ambassador or help the casino promote their site, the streamer can accept it. If the money is enough for the streamer, I think they can accept it and help the casino.

If the casino doesn't violate any regulations and their business is registered legally then it's good to promote them. Promotions or sponsorships are always paid in cash, it is one of the ways they earn on their career. The amounts we see when the streamer promotes them are given by the company so he can promote them well that will attract some people.

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I would not mind accepting sponsor money from the casino, but that will depend on personal because some people don't want to accept the money if that is related to the casino. After all, the sponsor money will be like a bonus to the streamer as they give something to their viewers, and when the casino offers some money to them to be like an ambassador or help the casino promote their site, the streamer can accept it. If the money is enough for the streamer, I think they can accept it and help the casino.

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Quote from: Strongkored on February 17, 2021, 09:25:59 PM

I understand that one form of promotion is to give free money to streamers to play on their web and provide reviews to attract players.
As the OP has said, it can be a problem if the streamer does not honestly say that he is advertising the web, so that new players can get stuck if they do not carefully assess whether the review given by the streamer is indeed an honest review or there are parts that streamer hide to cover the shortcomings of the web.
I think isn't a bad thing for streamer got money to advertise gambling site, but they need to make a honest review.

honest review when your being paid ? i think this is hard but we usually say positive words only if we are paid to advertised a site but if the viewer of the stream are already an old time gambler of the site he was watching he will know if the sponsored streamer is telling the truth or not . the big impact that can happen that arent unavoidable is that the viewer can get attracted to the big wins that they saw in the stream and they are going to mimic it but they are going to be the looser in here because they are using thier own money but the streamer isnt .

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I see no particular problem with this. If the casino is a reputable one and if the player openly admits that he/she is playing using sponsor funds, then there's no issue with it.

An issue would arise if the sponsor requires as a condition that the streamer or player won't say negative stuff against the site or the platform. If the streamer or player would be required to only mention the pros of the site or platform and that he/she can only heap praises to his/her gambling experience, then that's crossing the line. I know it's marketing and promotion but it has to be transparent also.

Promoting anything by deceit is a no no.

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I understand that one form of promotion is to give free money to streamers to play on their web and provide reviews to attract players.
As the OP has said, it can be a problem if the streamer does not honestly say that he is advertising the web, so that new players can get stuck if they do not carefully assess whether the review given by the streamer is indeed an honest review or there are parts that streamer hide to cover the shortcomings of the web.
I think isn't a bad thing for streamer got money to advertise gambling site, but they need to make a honest review.

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Quote from: adzino on February 17, 2021, 05:13:49 PM

What exactly do you think is wrong over here? I don't see anything wrong when a casino sponsors someone to advertise for them or review their casino. Its more like they are getting paid for promoting their casino and letting everyone know about it. Sure, the reviewer might be biased due to this, but then, if someone believes everything a random guy on the internet says, then he is an idiot. On other hand, I doubt any "streamer" would risk their reputation by giving biased or fake reviews.
I would say sponsoring isn't wrong in this case. The "streamer" earns, the casino gets promoted and others get to know about the casino.

There 2 types of men
1. Doesn't have a problem like me.
2. There someone who has some problem while some of the streamers or Youtuber playing with sponsor money.

That's, why maybe see from various view and aspect could be good ~XD

Quote from: imstillthebest on February 17, 2021, 06:12:35 PM

i dont know about cs go maybe they have sponshorships that came from a casino but i mostly foccus playing on a crypto casino and as much as i know most of the streamers are not affliated by a gambling site but it was thier own money they are using to play but there are gambling that conduct a youtube campaign but it was a for a short term purpose only .
i dont have a problem if the streamer tells honestly that it wasnt his money and sponsored money overall isnt bad in my opinion .

CSGO gambling website right now was also supported cryptocurrency due to the policy trade item from steam, one of the example DuelBits. Yes, not affiliated but they are got some contract offer sometimes to do a sponsorship video playing on the casino.

Quote from: robelneo on February 17, 2021, 07:24:02 PM

I'm ok with it as long as the streamer is an honest reviewer who will point out the flaws, advantages, and disadvantages of playing in his sponsor casino, his loyalty should be on his audience because so much at stake on his reputation and he should stipulate that on his sponsor that he should be independent and transparent on his reviews, the gambling audience is now wiser they know what is an independent and a paid reviews, so he should tell his audience.

Yeah, that's why admitted where the fund came from was one of good moves for some streamer or YouTuber I respect that decisioun. But there has some case for some casino trying to make fools their own viewer by doing a stupid things like playing with demo account and saying like real money.

One of the example Roshtein got caught during the streamer playing with demo money.

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It's good for the business side but not for a player side.
If you are watching too much of this videos then you might get the wrong idea.
Those Youtuber's just like you said are playing for free. That means, they don't really care much of how much they will lose unlike us gamblers.
We are trying to protect our money making sure every bet we take has lower risk.
Think of it as a paid advertisement only and never mimic whatever strategy they will do.

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I watch many streamers and I can say that they have different points of view on this. Some streamers fundamentally do not advertise casinos and various risky investment schemes. Some streamers easily advertise both.
In my opinion, a casino in this sense resembles alcohol - if a person is adult and adept, then he himself decides to use it or not. And if we advertise alcohol / casinos, then we should not relieve the responsibility for making decisions from this person - this is his choice.
So i'm ok with such money.

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I'm ok with it as long as the streamer is an honest reviewer who will point out the flaws, advantages, and disadvantages of playing in his sponsor casino, his loyalty should be on his audience because so much at stake on his reputation and he should stipulate that on his sponsor that he should be independent and transparent on his reviews, the gambling audience is now wiser they know what is an independent and a paid reviews, so he should tell his audience.

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Well, perhaps it's quite good if the streamer will tell that the money they used in gambling as an advertisement has come from the sponsorship of the gambling sites, -- but the fact, they don't. This is the same as the streamer play an online game, they receive payment from the online game they had played. For me, this is not a big deal because we know even they will not tell that they got a commission from the gambling site once they advertise that gambling site it is expected they accept money to gamble.

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I vaguely remember that years ago, some streamers in the e-sports platform were paid by various gambling websites using the funds given to them. There was an incident that such promotion made by this gambling website and the streamer were orchestrated in a way to make it look legit, but in fact rigged in the very beginning. This caused a stir in the community in which Valve had to step-up to mitigate the damage.

Quote from: imstillthebest on February 17, 2021, 06:12:35 PM

i dont know about cs go maybe they have sponshorships that came from a casino but i mostly foccus playing on a crypto casino and as much as i know most of the streamers are not affliated by a gambling site but it was thier own money they are using to play but there are gambling that conduct a youtube campaign but it was a for a short term purpose only .
i dont have a problem if the streamer tells honestly that it wasnt his money and sponsored money overall isnt bad in my opinion .

This is the one that I was talking about. Sponsorship money given by the gambling website can be a double-edged sword since streamers are given large amounts of money, so it makes it very appealing and convincing to the viewers about the chances of winning.

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