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Quote from: dzungmobile on November 27, 2024, 10:02:32 AM

Abandoned projects are more relevant when you are talking about failed projects. No development, no activities in marketing, communities, nothing and all things relate to those projects are dying with time like business revenue, trading volume and price.

It's not what Bitsler is, it's not an abandoned project. Primedice is not an abandoned project.

Could you please read the whole reply and try to understand what I am trying to say here? You are too fast to react. When did I accuse Bitsler of being abandoned? I said Primedice is kind of abandoned in terms of development. They have not implemented anything in the last couple of years. But I am glad that Bitsler keeps itself updated with the trend and they have added third-party games and sports betting. But you seem not to want to understand what I am saying. You are just twisting my words and writing something that I did not say. Why bro? Please read from the beginning and I hope you will understand my point.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on November 27, 2024, 10:02:32 AM

Quote from: Shishir99 on November 25, 2024, 04:02:40 AM

I did not say the project was abandoned. But I wanted to mean something else. The projects seem abandoned when it comes to new developments. We were talking about how Bitsler changed itself and included everything new. They were casinos with four or five games developed by their coders. But they followed the trends and added 3rd party games and they added sports betting as well. But if you check Primedice, I don't think they have made any changes in the last two or three years. This is why I said they seem like an abandoned project. I know that the owners of Primedice and Stake are the same.

I never say a successful and trusted bussiness that is lively operating is an abandoned project. It is too strict, too inaccurate so I am against this saying.

Abandoned projects are more relevant when you are talking about failed projects. No development, no activities in marketing, communities, nothing and all things relate to those projects are dying with time like business revenue, trading volume and price.

It's not what Bitsler is, it's not an abandoned project. Primedice is not an abandoned project.

Maybe they didn't see much activities here that's why they conclude that project is abandon and no developments happening. Maybe we don't know what the owners do in the background and since they are still running up till know then provably we can really assume that they are still doing fine in the scene.

But we cannot deny some facts that they are one of successful casino running before here and maybe they still got loyal gamblers that's why they are still running and their business still earning some good profits.

They are still operating so by that status we can say that project is not yet abandoned by the owner.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 25, 2024, 04:02:40 AM

I did not say the project was abandoned. But I wanted to mean something else. The projects seem abandoned when it comes to new developments. We were talking about how Bitsler changed itself and included everything new. They were casinos with four or five games developed by their coders. But they followed the trends and added 3rd party games and they added sports betting as well. But if you check Primedice, I don't think they have made any changes in the last two or three years. This is why I said they seem like an abandoned project. I know that the owners of Primedice and Stake are the same.

I never say a successful and trusted bussiness that is lively operating is an abandoned project. It is too strict, too inaccurate so I am against this saying.

Abandoned projects are more relevant when you are talking about failed projects. No development, no activities in marketing, communities, nothing and all things relate to those projects are dying with time like business revenue, trading volume and price.

It's not what Bitsler is, it's not an abandoned project. Primedice is not an abandoned project.

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Quote from: tranthidung on November 24, 2024, 09:00:18 AM

Primedice can abandon the forum in marketing but their business works fine and they have same owner of Stake team. I don't consider Primedice as an abandoned project, it's not correct.

I did not say the project was abandoned. But I wanted to mean something else. The projects seem abandoned when it comes to new developments. We were talking about how Bitsler changed itself and included everything new. They were casinos with four or five games developed by their coders. But they followed the trends and added 3rd party games and they added sports betting as well. But if you check Primedice, I don't think they have made any changes in the last two or three years. This is why I said they seem like an abandoned project. I know that the owners of Primedice and Stake are the same.

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Quote from: shield132 on November 24, 2024, 05:22:38 AM

I always wanted to know how do they recruit moderators and how much do they get paid? Looks to be a nice and comfortable job for socially active people, those who love chit-chat.

In the past, I think Baryom choose moderator by looking at user's account and he must be monitoring some potential accounts that he thinks is good enough to be hired as moderator.
Coming up to how much mod get paid, we will never know until the site or maybe the mods themselves reveal it publicly.
Talking about being chat mod, I was a mod in other casino (I wont mention the name), at that time there was no salary at all but the casino gave me some money in order to make the chat active (by making trivia or roll hunt).
I'm not sure with current days, especially if the casino hire mods professionally by doing a short interview or questionnaire, I believe most chat mods get paid now but the amount must be vary depending on given tasks as a mod and depending on the casino itself ofc.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 24, 2024, 04:40:20 AM

They don't have to write anything on the promotions page. Once you accept their TOS, you have to complete the KYC whenever the casino asks for it. They are doing it legally since they have the rights to ask for it. But, my point was, if a player never used a bonus, does not belongs to a restricted regions, did not played much and did not request for big withdrawals, then asking for KYC to such player does not look good. It is annoying to go through the KYC verification when you just made $10-20 profits but now you have to complete the KYC.

i agree, it's annoying and a hassle to go through KYC for small withdrawals, especially if you are a ligit player.
but think about it from the casino perspective, how would they know you are not from a restricted region? as far as they are concerned, you could be using a VPN or proxy.
and depending on their security system, you could be marked as high risk regardless if you used a bonus or how small your profits are.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 24, 2024, 08:55:19 AM

If you want to see examples, Probably Primedice is the perfect example. Duckdice did not update much as well. Primedice seems like an abandoned project. It is good to see that Bitsler keeps itself updated and survives on the market.

Primedice can abandon the forum in marketing but their business works fine and they have same owner of Stake team. I don't consider Primedice as an abandoned project, it's not correct.

Duckdice sometimes shown that they wanted to run marketing, signature campaign and they announced these plans or only intention in their announcement threads but they never started one recent years. Furthermore, they have many scam accusations and didn't resolve them, as I know.

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You’re right, Primedice is still very active and they have their own community which they provide task and quest in exchange for rewards the last time I play on this casino last year.

There’s still a lot of active player out there when I check right now since they maintain the classic dice games while introduced Stake p.com to catch up with the improvement of online casino nowadays.

AFAIK, they still have occasional promotion out there.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 24, 2024, 08:55:19 AM

If you want to see examples, Probably Primedice is the perfect example. Duckdice did not update much as well. Primedice seems like an abandoned project. It is good to see that Bitsler keeps itself updated and survives on the market.

Primedice can abandon the forum in marketing but their business works fine and they have same owner of Stake team. I don't consider Primedice as an abandoned project, it's not correct.

Duckdice sometimes shown that they wanted to run marketing, signature campaign and they announced these plans or only intention in their announcement threads but they never started one recent years. Furthermore, they have many scam accusations and didn't resolve them, as I know.

[LIST] Scam Accusation Cases Against Betting Platform on The Forum

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Quote from: shield132 on November 24, 2024, 05:22:38 AM

Bitsler is truly a project that started from this forum. In 2016, Baryom created a contest for Bitsler.com's logo and today, they use that logo that one Bitcointalk member created. Their first and most important game was Dice, their major currency was Bitcoin and then within a year, they added a few games and altcoins. Then over the years, Bitsler added slots, sportsbook, live casino, tens of cryptocurrencies and formed what it is right now.

Good to see they keep themself updated with the trend and they were able to survive in the casino market with fame and reputation. Some casinos do not follow the trends and they stick with those old games and no new additions for years. That is one of the reasons why we do not see brands like Nokia. They did not keep themselves updated.

If you want to see examples, Probably Primedice is the perfect example. Duckdice did not update much as well. Primedice seems like an abandoned project. It is good to see that Bitsler keeps itself updated and survives on the market.

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Quote from: shield132 on November 24, 2024, 05:22:38 AM

Bitsler is truly a project that started from this forum. In 2016, Baryom created a contest for Bitsler.com's logo and today, they use that logo that one Bitcointalk member created. Their first and most important game was Dice, their major currency was Bitcoin and then within a year, they added a few games and altcoins. Then over the years, Bitsler added slots, sportsbook, live casino, tens of cryptocurrencies and formed what it is right now.

I am not sure that Bitsler actually started in the forum, but their announcement thread was created in 2015, one year before the logo contest time, and back in these past years, Bitcoin forum is a destination of many Bitcoin and cryptocurrency projects and companies. Ethereum started here too, and a first Bitcoin-accepted casino began here to (they're SatoshiDice), and it's not surprising if Bitsler began their business in Bitcoin forum too.

Another sweet memory about Bitsler.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 21, 2024, 05:38:50 AM

I don't know why I did not notice Bitsler these days. Baryom is still active. I remember playing there a long time ago. Probably six or seven years ago. I had a friend who was Bitlser Mod. Her name was AussieLeece Maybe. The spelling could be wrong, but she was suffering from some kind of disease. I don't know if she died. But I had no contact with her. Too much memory with Bitsler.

I always wanted to know how do they recruit moderators and how much do they get paid? Looks to be a nice and comfortable job for socially active people, those who love chit-chat.

Quote from: Shishir99 on November 21, 2024, 05:38:50 AM

But I have heard Bitsler become one of the worst casinos lately. They even ask for KYC for a $20 withdrawal. I know it depends on a user's playing pattern or maybe something else. But, asking a user to verify their profile just for $20 is silly.

I haven't heard such thing. I believe that till Baryom and Gabriel manage Bitsler, their customers are in safe hands. I haven't been in touch much with Gabriel but Baryom is a very humble guy.

Quote from: tranthidung on November 21, 2024, 11:07:28 AM

On Bitsler, I see many games too and I did not know about history of this platform, if you are right they began with dice, but now we have many games, not only Dice, and also Sportsbook for users.

Bitsler is truly a project that started from this forum. In 2016, Baryom created a contest for Bitsler.com's logo and today, they use that logo that one Bitcointalk member created. Their first and most important game was Dice, their major currency was Bitcoin and then within a year, they added a few games and altcoins. Then over the years, Bitsler added slots, sportsbook, live casino, tens of cryptocurrencies and formed what it is right now.

Quote from: tranthidung on November 21, 2024, 11:07:28 AM

When they have need of advertisement here, they will do it because as far as I know, Bitsler team is a good business and have good budget for marketing.

Yes, their team is good at business and marketing.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on November 24, 2024, 04:31:42 AM

KYC policy can be a controversial thing now but we are going to see mandatory KYC becomes more popular globally from centralized exchanges to centralized online casinos.

Bro, my point was a slightly different. They don't have to write anything on the promotions page. Once you accept their TOS, you have to complete the KYC whenever the casino asks for it. They are doing it legally since they have the rights to ask for it. But, my point was, if a player never used a bonus, does not belongs to a restricted regions, did not played much and did not request for big withdrawals, then asking for KYC to such player does not look good. It is annoying to go through the KYC verification when you just made $10-20 profits but now you have to complete the KYC.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 24, 2024, 04:27:52 AM

I agree with that. The casinos want to do business. They know that people will try to abuse their bonus system, and they trigger KYC to users who use bonuses. I am not against the KYC if a player use bonus. But when someone make a $10 deposit without using the bonus, and later decide to withdraw a $30 and the Casino triggers them a KYC, I guess the player would abandon the account and leave. I mean, that will be my first option. But if I win something big, I may go for the KYC no matter how hard it is.

They can add KYC term in their promotion program as a mandator condition, or they can note it that they're free to request KYC on any user who want to claim bonuses.

If it is not a mandatory condition for claiming, when the company requests KYC on a user, maybe they already saw something and want to confirm and make sure that it's not cheating their company budget.

KYC policy can be a controversial thing now but we are going to see mandatory KYC becomes more popular globally from centralized exchanges to centralized online casinos.

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Quote from: tranthidung on November 22, 2024, 08:27:53 AM

With bonuses, they have due diligent to deploy many layers of detection and protection against cheaters. If they don't have these things, their platform and marketing budget will be exploited by cheaters. They want to play fairly and generously with their user community but they never want to be cheated by community.

I agree with that. The casinos want to do business. They know that people will try to abuse their bonus system, and they trigger KYC to users who use bonuses. I am not against the KYC if a player use bonus. But when someone make a $10 deposit without using the bonus, and later decide to withdraw a $30 and the Casino triggers them a KYC, I guess the player would abandon the account and leave. I mean, that will be my first option. But if I win something big, I may go for the KYC no matter how hard it is.

The system is changing and it's getting more strict these days. Casinos now want level 2 KYC upon sign up, which a popular Casino is going to implement in January 2025. I guess you know about it.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 22, 2024, 07:23:42 AM

The casino never reveals the reason for asking for KYC.

Casinos are like centralized exchanges in KYC. If they see something with your account, they can require you to do KYC, but there is no detailed reasons on why you have to KYC. If they give you information on it, it is only general information and is not helpful for you. You will have to decide to continue with KYC, or abandon your account.

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I believe when a user applies any kind of bonus, the casino decides to ask for KYC because they don't want to give free money to everyone. So, they verify the user if they use any kind of bonus. Also, the casinos often trigger KYC if a player has big wins, or makes some kind of big transactions. Another reason is if they suspect a player of using multiple accounts or violating their TOS. There might be some other reasons as well.

With bonuses, they have due diligent to deploy many layers of detection and protection against cheaters. If they don't have these things, their platform and marketing budget will be exploited by cheaters. They want to play fairly and generously with their user community but they never want to be cheated by community.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 21, 2024, 05:54:38 AM

As you said yourself, KYC is mostly not merely depending on the withdrawal amount. If we look from player's perspective only, yes KYC for $20 withdrawal request sounds bad but we should also look from the casino's perspective.
There must be reason why a casino ask KYC for low withdrawal amount, I do not mean to defend Bitsler but I express it in general because I believe similar thing also happen in other casinos.

The casino never reveals the reason for asking for KYC. I believe when a user applies any kind of bonus, the casino decides to ask for KYC because they don't want to give free money to everyone. So, they verify the user if they use any kind of bonus. Also, the casinos often trigger KYC if a player has big wins, or makes some kind of big transactions. Another reason is if they suspect a player of using multiple accounts or violating their TOS. There might be some other reasons as well. But if a player did not apply any bonus, yet triggered the KYC just for $20, they would prefer to gamble more and lose it or make something big instead of completing the KYC.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on November 21, 2024, 10:30:45 AM

They are just late to expand their website to full casino since they focus too much on dice game but I doubt their tons of players will leave them especially those who have VIP rank that still active by the time they transition to the upgraded casino.

They expanded their business to sport bets for users by launching their Sports book and when they had it, they run a signature campaign which lasted for about 2 months. Bitsler's Sportsbook and its signature campaign.

On Bitsler, I see many games too and I did not know about history of this platform, if you are right they began with dice, but now we have many games, not only Dice, and also Sportsbook for users.

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I’m looking forward to this casino resurfaced their marketing in the forum. I remember they are offering exclusive bonuses to our local channel before.

When they have need of advertisement here, they will do it because as far as I know, Bitsler team is a good business and have good budget for marketing.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 21, 2024, 05:38:50 AM

I don't know why I did not notice Bitsler these days. Baryom is still active. I remember playing there a long time ago. Probably six or seven years ago. I had a friend who was Bitlser Mod. Her name was AussieLeece Maybe. The spelling could be wrong, but she was suffering from some kind of disease. I don't know if she died. But I had no contact with her. Too much memory with Bitsler.

But I have heard Bitsler become one of the worst casinos lately. They even ask for KYC for a $20 withdrawal. I know it depends on a user's playing pattern or maybe something else. But, asking a user to verify their profile just for $20 is silly.

I think because they don’t have much promotion dedicated for Bitcointalk user. The last time I play on this casino is way back when they still offer dice game and few other dice game.

but since they are still operating I maybe guess that Bitsler still sustainable even by now and we cannot deny the fact that they are still on of reputable casino here way back before.

I think so too since they have a lot of active players back then and also they even rival Primedice before when it comes to the volume of players.

They are just late to expand their website to full casino since they focus too much on dice game but I doubt their tons of players will leave them especially those who have VIP rank that still active by the time they transition to the upgraded casino.

I’m looking forward to this casino resurfaced their marketing in the forum. I remember they are offering exclusive bonuses to our local channel before.

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