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Looks like I'm gonna lose a bet again.  Dammit.  -_-

But good news.  And I hope we get this pandemic behind us asap.  I'm a little depressed for a couple of weeks now tbh.
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The good news keeps coming, now contact training has been given the go ahead by the UK government. Finally we can see that the possibility of anything other than completing the season has a very low probability. I can’t wait to get this show back on the road & we can see Liverpool crowned as champions Wink
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8353051/Government-Premier-League-EFL-green-light-accelerate-Project-Restart-plans.html

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The Premier League and Football League have been given the go-ahead by the Government to accelerate plans to complete their seasons.

The Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport have released phase two of their 'elite sport returning to training guidance' which enables competitive and close-contact training.

Seems like the football could return even sooner. June 20th will probably be the more likely date though than anything sooner.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8352995/Neutral-venues-agenda-Premier-League-clubs-ready-Project-Restart-meeting.html

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Neutral venues back on the agenda as Premier League clubs set to discuss using a combination of grounds to allay police concerns at crucial Project Restart meeting on Thursday

Looks like we'll probably have more information on Thursday/Friday as a pretty big meeting is taking place. Maybe they'll announce the date of the restart then. They're also discussing the TV rights and what to do about refunds. What actually happens with that will be interesting sand whether the TV companies are ok with whatever they vote on.
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@hilarious/DeathAngel: don't worry we'll get out picks in. Watford was supposed to be the first game but wasn't it Deeney and a lot of the Watford players who're refusing to play?

I've given up on updating myself on Project Restart but it does appear there is hope for a June restart, and working with the police (who insist on the neutral venues).

@toke @DeathAngel now you know how my life feels like. Had a long career where weekends didn't mean anything so when I moved to freelance and remote work from home 4 years ago, I had to really adjust to school and weekends. And then now everyone's home since end of Feb, they're feeling crazy but I'm back to "every day is the same"! If not for my youngest and his schedule, I actually wouldn't know anything haha.

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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11993387/premier-league-two-more-positive-cases-after-second-round-of-coronavirus-testing

Anybody done their round 30 picks in Superbru yet?
Might be an idea to start doing them incase you forget when the season begins. That’s what tgis thread is for, right?
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Jumping the gun a bit  Cheesy, but just done mine now. I doubt anyone will forget though as once the league gets the go ahead it will be all over the media.

I wonder if the fixtures will resume as normal? Watford v Leicester is apparently the first one back if they play them as they were and that could be a great game. Merseyside derby is also on the same round but the last game.

^  Today's Saturday?  Cheesy

Seriously...  I was gonna force myself to watch some Bundesliga 'this weekend' thinking it was like..  a Wednesday or Thursday.

It’s crazy isn’t it, every day blends into one. We don’t go back to work until June 1st, I’m so bored. I watched some  Bundesliga yesterday, it’s nowhere near as fun for me personally but at least it’s something to keep me occupied.


I haven't watched any of the games yet but I'll watch the Dortmund/Bayern game on Tuesday.
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^  Today's Saturday?  Cheesy

Seriously...  I was gonna force myself to watch some Bundesliga 'this weekend' thinking it was like..  a Wednesday or Thursday.

It’s crazy isn’t it, every day blends into one. We don’t go back to work until June 1st, I’m so bored. I watched some  Bundesliga yesterday, it’s nowhere near as fun for me personally but at least it’s something to keep me occupied.

PL is rumoured to be returning weekend of June 20th so we have that to look forward to.
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^  Today's Saturday?  Cheesy

Seriously...  I was gonna force myself to watch some Bundesliga 'this weekend' thinking it was like..  a Wednesday or Thursday.
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Anybody done their round 30 picks in Superbru yet?
Might be an idea to start doing them incase you forget when the season begins. That’s what tgis thread is for, right?
Cheesy
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Well I suppose if they're playing games in a shorter period it might help, but has that been confirmed yet? I haven't heard anything in a while on whether they'll be playing in neutral venues or not or whether things will just carry on as normal in regards to fixtures.

I haven't seen anything concrete about these topics so far. Only what we already discussed here, some ideas being tossed around both by clubs and the committee.
I guess they will agree on all of that after some more meetings and maybe a week before the league starts. So far personally I think games will be played at regular stadiums. But that's just a hunch.
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I don't see why it's necessary at the moment though. What disadvantage are they paying under where they need 5 subs?

My logic is that there will be a lot more games clustered in a smaller period of time than in normal league schedule. I'm not sure if the 5 vs 3 subs per single game will make that much of a difference for players' general condition though, if any at all.
I understand your viewpoint, I just think that no real harm would come from it and am more indifferent to it. It might actually bring more goals because attackers tend to be the more substituted players Grin

Well I suppose if they're playing games in a shorter period it might help, but has that been confirmed yet? I haven't heard anything in a while on whether they'll be playing in neutral venues or not or whether things will just carry on as normal in regards to fixtures.

Though, from what I saw in Bundesliga so far, managers don't always use all 5 substitutions.

I guess it'll just be like any other game where not all the subs get used. Probably rare though and they usually get brought on towards the end just to get some playing time. I guess it will depend on the situation though, as you don't want to be bringing on inexperienced players just for the sake of it or changing up your team too much, especially if the game is still close.
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I don't think that's something that has been implemented has it, just proposed? I don't think they should allow more subs though. Doesn't really make sense. The actual game rules should just be played as normal in my opinion.
FIFA allowed 5 subsitutions until the end of 2020:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fifa.com/who-we-are/news/amp/five-substitutes-option-temporarily-allowed-for-competition-organisers
But it's optional, every league can decide whether allow it or no. I don't see bad aspects of this change, same like they allowed 4th subsitution on overtime previously. Teams will have very intensive schedule in next few months and risk of injuries may increase. Though, from what I saw in Bundesliga so far, managers don't always use all 5 substitutions.
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I don't see why it's necessary at the moment though. What disadvantage are they paying under where they need 5 subs?

My logic is that there will be a lot more games clustered in a smaller period of time than in normal league schedule. I'm not sure if the 5 vs 3 subs per single game will make that much of a difference for players' general condition though, if any at all.
I understand your viewpoint, I just think that no real harm would come from it and am more indifferent to it. It might actually bring more goals because attackers tend to be the more substituted players Grin
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I don't think that's something that has been implemented has it, just proposed? I don't think they should allow more subs though. Doesn't really make sense. The actual game rules should just be played as normal in my opinion.

Well, Bundesliga is being played with 5 so I assume other countries will follow it. I support it in these situations, although I know it just gives more of an edge to better teams.

There will be short breaks between games and they will probably have to be played in July and possibly August at 40+ degrees, so anything that can help for better recovery/protection is something that should at least be tried out.

I don't see much harm in it to be honest.

I wasn't aware of the 5 subs change in Bundesliga, but that decision will probably be up the their own FA right and not UEFA or anything so might not happen in the PL. I don't see why it's necessary at the moment though. What disadvantage are they paying under where they need 5 subs? The only thing I could think of is because they've been out of practice for a while and players might not be fully fit but that's something every team will have to deal with, and as you said, it is going to give advantage to the teams with the stronger squads. Some teams have world class players on the bench while some are filled with kids and b-team players. I think they should try to play on with as little changes to the actual game as possible if any at all. Teams will probably use these changes as an excuse when they don't get the results they want.


He probably knows what he's team-mates have been up to  Cheesy.

Lawl.  Eating ass?  I heard you could get Rona doing it.  Cheesy

Anyway...  What's the latest news?  I don't see any about the restart.  Def June 1?

As far as I'm aware there's nothing concrete yet. There was the rumoured 20th June start but I'd be very surprised if it was the 1st of June or even the 12 which was another proposed date.
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Just heard that it's not just Deeney who doesn't wanna go back training.  A couple of his other team mates won't too.  And prolly some back room stuff.

The newest gossip is that Kante is refusing to train as well. He reported for the 1st training on Tuesday but apparently did not come yesterday.

It's not gossip; he's been allowed to miss training due to fears: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11671335/kante-chelsea-training-coronavirus/

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France World Cup winner Kante completed day one of Chelsea’s return to training on Tuesday after testing negative for coronavirus.

But it is believed he has concerns over the safety of going back to duty alongside his team-mates full time while England remains in lockdown.

As a result he was allowed to miss Wednesday’s session with the blessing of head coach Frank Lampard and the club.

He probably knows what he's team-mates have been up to  Cheesy.

Lawl.  Eating ass?  I heard you could get Rona doing it.  Cheesy

Anyway...  What's the latest news?  I don't see any about the restart.  Def June 1?
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I don't think that's something that has been implemented has it, just proposed? I don't think they should allow more subs though. Doesn't really make sense. The actual game rules should just be played as normal in my opinion.

Well, Bundesliga is being played with 5 so I assume other countries will follow it. I support it in these situations, although I know it just gives more of an edge to better teams.

There will be short breaks between games and they will probably have to be played in July and possibly August at 40+ degrees, so anything that can help for better recovery/protection is something that should at least be tried out.

I don't see much harm in it to be honest.
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Yeah, saw that earlier. Spraying the balls is ridiculous.

Adrian Mariappa was the Watford player who tested positive: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52744883

Everything is ridiculous, football is a sport with a lot of contacts, it is impossible to keep players disinfected. Only fast tests can help, fast I mean 30 minutes before starting a game.

I'm just thinking if it's true that there will be a restart on 20 June, then there will be no pauses between two seasons or it will be very short. I guess it can be exhausting for players, plus it may be accelerated because of the European championship. It can be very problematic for teams with a short bench.

It's overkill for sure. It seems like an unnecessary precaution, and if it truly mattered or was essential that balls have to be disinfected then they probably shouldn't be playing.

Apparently all clubs will be doing another test today:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11992597/coronavirus-premier-league-clubs-face-second-round-of-testing-on-friday

Everything is ridiculous, football is a sport with a lot of contacts, it is impossible to keep players disinfected. Only fast tests can help, fast I mean 30 minutes before starting a game.

I'm just thinking if it's true that there will be a restart on 20 June, then there will be no pauses between two seasons or it will be very short. I guess it can be exhausting for players, plus it may be accelerated because of the European championship. It can be very problematic for teams with a short bench.

That's why they introduced the 5 substitutes rule.

I don't think that's something that has been implemented has it, just proposed? I don't think they should allow more subs though. Doesn't really make sense. The actual game rules should just be played as normal in my opinion.
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Everything is ridiculous, football is a sport with a lot of contacts, it is impossible to keep players disinfected. Only fast tests can help, fast I mean 30 minutes before starting a game.

I'm just thinking if it's true that there will be a restart on 20 June, then there will be no pauses between two seasons or it will be very short. I guess it can be exhausting for players, plus it may be accelerated because of the European championship. It can be very problematic for teams with a short bench.

That's why they introduced the 5 substitutes rule. I get what you mean and you are partially right - teams with short benches are at a disadvantage when using 5 substitutes because the quality of the players from the bench isn't at a high enough level.

The problem is that the season has to be finished and the new one is bound to start latest in September so the clubs will just have to manage somehow. Most of the players would have gone to the Euro championship anyway, so it was bound to be a season of little rest for them anyway.
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Yeah, saw that earlier. Spraying the balls is ridiculous.

Adrian Mariappa was the Watford player who tested positive: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52744883

Everything is ridiculous, football is a sport with a lot of contacts, it is impossible to keep players disinfected. Only fast tests can help, fast I mean 30 minutes before starting a game.

I'm just thinking if it's true that there will be a restart on 20 June, then there will be no pauses between two seasons or it will be very short. I guess it can be exhausting for players, plus it may be accelerated because of the European championship. It can be very problematic for teams with a short bench.
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Just heard that it's not just Deeney who doesn't wanna go back training.  A couple of his other team mates won't too.  And prolly some back room stuff.

The newest gossip is that Kante is refusing to train as well. He reported for the 1st training on Tuesday but apparently did not come yesterday.

It's not gossip; he's been allowed to miss training due to fears: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11671335/kante-chelsea-training-coronavirus/

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This is by far the funniest thing I came across today: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8342165/Premier-League-stars-return-training-hampered-STICKY-BALLS-disinfectant.html

There have reportedly been issues with the disinfectant that clubs are spraying on footballs as part of hygiene measures.

In a reaction with the hot weather, the substance has made the balls sticky and caused surfaces to become tacky which has affected movement.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere, this really is too much.

Yeah, saw that earlier. Spraying the balls is ridiculous.

Adrian Mariappa was the Watford player who tested positive: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52744883
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Just heard that it's not just Deeney who doesn't wanna go back training.  A couple of his other team mates won't too.  And prolly some back room stuff.

The newest gossip is that Kante is refusing to train as well. He reported for the 1st training on Tuesday but apparently did not come yesterday.

This is by far the funniest thing I came across today: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8342165/Premier-League-stars-return-training-hampered-STICKY-BALLS-disinfectant.html

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There have reportedly been issues with the disinfectant that clubs are spraying on footballs as part of hygiene measures.

In a reaction with the hot weather, the substance has made the balls sticky and caused surfaces to become tacky which has affected movement.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere, this really is too much.
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