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Quote from: Igebotz on February 09, 2024, 03:19:37 PM

The sponsorship budget is okay IMO - we simply have to sit out ass up; if we want a larger pool size, it's up to us. If we have the same awards for each position every season with no progress, the competitiveness will decrease, and some teams will become bored and drop out out. We're all gamblers, and we know that the bigger the risk, higher the return. Division 2 should not be free; it drains the reward pool.

I am more than happy with budget and rewards for most players, but adding entry fee for all Division 2 players could result in less players wanting to participate.
Whatever division I play next season I am willing to pay whatever fee but I am trying to see the bigger picture with pros and cons for everything.
Players who dont pay anything are much easier to drop out, quit and miss few rounds, so maybe cro2 team could think about taking symbolic entry fee from everyone in all divisions.

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Quote from: casperBGD on February 09, 2024, 03:45:30 PM

FWIW, budget is solid, and enough for a competition to be both, fun and rewarding
more money would put it all into pressure zone, while lower rewards would probably chase recreationalist away

nevertheless, I find this kind of competition really enjoyable, and would like to see it continuing throughout seasons

back to competition, nothing on menu for a few days, so now weekend to resolve the round, starting with Bayer/Bayern tomorrow

I agree that the budget is solid. Just enough for everyone to earn at least what they have invested. At least for the division 1 where there is an entrance fee. For me this is more than just pure gambling. I really enjoy discussing here on the forum. Trofo, cryptofrka and casperBGD know me from our Croatian board and know that I was always saying that I have nothing to talk about in the Gambling section. Well this competition proved me wrong and I hope it continues for a long, long time.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on February 09, 2024, 02:13:50 PM

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Regarding the budgets - they won't be increasing in the following season. We think that we're in the right spot, so if we want to increase the rewards it will have to come out of our own pockets.

FWIW, budget is solid, and enough for a competition to be both, fun and rewarding
more money would put it all into pressure zone, while lower rewards would probably chase recreationalist away

nevertheless, I find this kind of competition really enjoyable, and would like to see it continuing throughout seasons

back to competition, nothing on menu for a few days, so now weekend to resolve the round, starting with Bayer/Bayern tomorrow

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Quote from: Trofo on February 09, 2024, 03:30:44 PM

I have one other idea how to cater for serious gamblers willing to put more money on the line. Did not have enough time to discuss it with cryptofrka yet so I will keep it a secret for now. Lots of details to think trough anyway and once I mention it the cat is out of the bag and difficult to put back in Grin

I hope you are not thinking of a VIP league. Because it will ruin the existing leagues, we do not want another super league right now. You don't need a magician to tell you that we are all deadly gamblers. Paying $80-$100 only once to win a $2000-$2500 star reward in less than six months? I will take it every day of my life without hesitation. We need to increase the prize pool to $10,000. Let everyone eat well Cheesy

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Quote from: Igebotz on February 09, 2024, 03:19:37 PM

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Quote from: Igebotz on February 09, 2024, 09:41:22 AM

We gonna have signup payments for Division 2 and good payout rates too to make it more attractive and competitive from next season and few changes to Division 3

We still don't know. It's tough to balance the rewards - what we're doing now is making sure that every player gets at least something in return.
If we introduce an entrance fee to Division 2, we will probably continue with the same logic - a smaller fee that will at least be covered by end of the season reward.

Regarding the budgets - they won't be increasing in the following season. We think that we're in the right spot, so if we want to increase the rewards it will have to come out of our own pockets.

Trofo and I will have a more concrete discussion about this at the end of the season, and once we define S04 with Sportsbet as well.

The sponsorship budget is okay IMO - we simply have to sit out ass up; if we want a larger pool size, it's up to us. If we have the same awards for each position every season with no progress, the competitiveness will decrease, and some teams will become bored and drop out out. We're all gamblers, and we know that the bigger the risk, higher the return. Division 2 should not be free; it drains the reward pool.

We've talked about this and everyone was cool with you - Cryptofka why are you acting surprised?

I have one other idea how to cater for serious gamblers willing to put more money on the line. Did not have enough time to discuss it with cryptofrka yet so I will keep it a secret for now. Lots of details to think trough anyway and once I mention it the cat is out of the bag and difficult to put back in Grin

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Quote from: cryptofrka on February 09, 2024, 02:13:50 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on February 09, 2024, 09:41:22 AM

We gonna have signup payments for Division 2 and good payout rates too to make it more attractive and competitive from next season and few changes to Division 3

We still don't know. It's tough to balance the rewards - what we're doing now is making sure that every player gets at least something in return.
If we introduce an entrance fee to Division 2, we will probably continue with the same logic - a smaller fee that will at least be covered by end of the season reward.

Regarding the budgets - they won't be increasing in the following season. We think that we're in the right spot, so if we want to increase the rewards it will have to come out of our own pockets.

Trofo and I will have a more concrete discussion about this at the end of the season, and once we define S04 with Sportsbet as well.

The sponsorship budget is okay IMO - we simply have to sit out ass up; if we want a larger pool size, it's up to us. If we have the same awards for each position every season with no progress, the competitiveness will decrease, and some teams will become bored and drop out out. We're all gamblers, and we know that the bigger the risk, higher the return. Division 2 should not be free; it drains the reward pool.

We've talked about this and everyone was cool with you - Cryptofka why are you acting surprised?

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Quote from: Igebotz on February 09, 2024, 09:41:22 AM

We gonna have signup payments for Division 2 and good payout rates too to make it more attractive and competitive from next season and few changes to Division 3

We still don't know. It's tough to balance the rewards - what we're doing now is making sure that every player gets at least something in return.
If we introduce an entrance fee to Division 2, we will probably continue with the same logic - a smaller fee that will at least be covered by end of the season reward.

Regarding the budgets - they won't be increasing in the following season. We think that we're in the right spot, so if we want to increase the rewards it will have to come out of our own pockets.

Trofo and I will have a more concrete discussion about this at the end of the season, and once we define S04 with Sportsbet as well.

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Quote from: Harkorede on February 08, 2024, 10:17:55 PM

Quote from: slackovic on February 08, 2024, 02:32:18 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on February 08, 2024, 02:07:34 PM

The actual unlucky person here is me. Harkorede is ahead and he will most probably win the round as well. If I played against a different player in this round I was going to win. It is really very sad for me and my team to get behind like this on the 14th week. I hope that I can win against you on the final week and I can at least manage to finish this season in top 5. Sad

Well... That's also one way to look at it. It reminds me of a game when I lost against someone (I don't remember who it was). I had the second best score and lost the game just because the team I played against scored the most points in that round.

So we are meeting in the last round? I hope I'll make you lose the top 5 so that I get back points that I lost because of my stupidity in the last round Grin

I think we all should calm down and not lose our heads over this just yet, I've got a good run of form down the stretch, Yes! but the round is still very a close one and it all still could change, In my opinion I believe it will all come down to what happens in the Superbowl or Milan vs Napoli, you already have the biggest edge in the AFCON question which likely will get us even, I took a gamble with DR Congo, and unless they can get a win against South Africa which could have the question end as a draw for us, we're pretty much even now, I'd say.

To be honest I also don't think I have lost yet. Cheesy

However I don't think I have a big advantage on the AFCON question. Because if we look at the odds on Sportsbet.io DR Congo are the favourite of the match. I couldn't answer the questions related to Super Bowl properly unfortunately. So I don't have any idea about it. I think Napoli won't lose at the weekend. Besides I expect plenty of goals in the Real Madrid match.

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Quote from: arallmuus on February 09, 2024, 09:23:29 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on February 09, 2024, 08:14:50 AM

But you know, winning prize of division 2 is also pretty cool, but it looks stronger and stronger every season to be sure...

Well the prizes is not as much as division 1 but hey we get to play for free on division 2 so no biggie on this and of course division 2 is literally just a stepping stone to get into division 1. Aside from the fact that some of the division 2 players would forgot to send in their answers, gotta agree that division 2 however is as tough as division 1 overall

We gonna have signup payments for Division 2 and good payout rates too to make it more attractive and competitive from next season and few changes to Division 3

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Quote from: slaman29 on February 09, 2024, 08:14:50 AM

But you know, winning prize of division 2 is also pretty cool, but it looks stronger and stronger every season to be sure...

Well the prizes is not as much as division 1 but hey we get to play for free on division 2 so no biggie on this and of course division 2 is literally just a stepping stone to get into division 1. Aside from the fact that some of the division 2 players would forgot to send in their answers, gotta agree that division 2 however is as tough as division 1 overall

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Quote from: Harkorede on February 08, 2024, 10:17:55 PM

I think we all should calm down and not lose our heads over this just yet, I've got a good run of form down the stretch, Yes! but the round is still very a close one and it all still could change, In my opinion I believe it will all come down to what happens in the Superbowl or Milan vs Napoli, you already have the biggest edge in the AFCON question which likely will get us even, I took a gamble with DR Congo, and unless they can get a win against South Africa which could have the question end as a draw for us, we're pretty much even now, I'd say.

No no we should all lose our heads and go for total chaos so I have a chance lol

They say some teams perform at their best in the final hours, and this was the case for me last season, to promote back, I did fail in season 1 to avoid relegation, so I took a lot of care this time to tell my team not to feel any pressure, and hope pressure goes for our opponents.

But you know, winning prize of division 2 is also pretty cool, but it looks stronger and stronger every season to be sure...

I see I have slight advantage over my opponent in AFCON, but if Nigeria and DR Congo lose, it's a draw anyway, what a weird outcome that would have tho!!

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Quote from: slackovic on February 08, 2024, 02:32:18 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on February 08, 2024, 02:07:34 PM

The actual unlucky person here is me. Harkorede is ahead and he will most probably win the round as well. If I played against a different player in this round I was going to win. It is really very sad for me and my team to get behind like this on the 14th week. I hope that I can win against you on the final week and I can at least manage to finish this season in top 5. Sad

Well... That's also one way to look at it. It reminds me of a game when I lost against someone (I don't remember who it was). I had the second best score and lost the game just because the team I played against scored the most points in that round.

So we are meeting in the last round? I hope I'll make you lose the top 5 so that I get back points that I lost because of my stupidity in the last round Grin

I think we all should calm down and not lose our heads over this just yet, I've got a good run of form down the stretch, Yes! but the round is still very a close one and it all still could change, In my opinion I believe it will all come down to what happens in the Superbowl or Milan vs Napoli, you already have the biggest edge in the AFCON question which likely will get us even, I took a gamble with DR Congo, and unless they can get a win against South Africa which could have the question end as a draw for us, we're pretty much even now, I'd say.

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Quote from: CLS63 on February 08, 2024, 02:07:34 PM

The actual unlucky person here is me. Harkorede is ahead and he will most probably win the round as well. If I played against a different player in this round I was going to win. It is really very sad for me and my team to get behind like this on the 14th week. I hope that I can win against you on the final week and I can at least manage to finish this season in top 5. Sad

Well... That's also one way to look at it. It reminds me of a game when I lost against someone (I don't remember who it was). I had the second best score and lost the game just because the team I played against scored the most points in that round.

So we are meeting in the last round? I hope I'll make you lose the top 5 so that I get back points that I lost because of my stupidity in the last round Grin

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Quote from: slackovic on February 08, 2024, 02:43:23 AM

Wow! I don't know if all of us are tired from a long season, but this "sea of red" in the table says that none of the teams are in their best form. Harkorede is the only one who has all three correct points so far but he is up against cls63 who has two correct. Tough luck... If he was up against any other team in division 1, he would probably have secured a win already.

The actual unlucky person here is me. Harkorede is ahead and he will most probably win the round as well. If I played against a different player in this round I was going to win. It is really very sad for me and my team to get behind like this on the 14th week. I hope that I can win against you on the final week and I can at least manage to finish this season in top 5. Sad

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on February 08, 2024, 09:24:15 AM

I couldn't see anything about merging Division 3A and Division 3B but if I missed it please correct me.

If such thing happens I would like to have a rematch against you by preparing better this time. Cool

First I need to talk to my players about where we made the mistakes the most. Tongue

It all depends on the number of players we have for season 4. Division 1 & 2 are fixed on 16 players each, that makes 32 spots taken. Then we have to find best possible format to make do with all the remaining players. Though to call it before we have final numbers. We will try to make it in most fun way while making it last similar to higher divisions. In other words Div 3 must last around 15 rounds.

Applications to BSFL are always open. If somebody wants to be part of season 4 or if you guys know someone now is the time to apply.

If you are kicked from competition due to not submitting now is also the time to reapply. Just keep in mind that you will probably be required to pay "evil fee". Some amount of money (maybe 1 mBTC) that you get back at the end of season if you submit on time or you are donating it to rewards pool if you miss deadlines again. Details will be known in due time but if nobody wants to reapply than we don't need to even waste time on implementing the "evil fee" system.

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Quote from: goodpunt on February 06, 2024, 01:14:02 AM

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Maybe we will have a rematch soon when our current leagues are getting merged.

I have found this on OP:

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It is more likely that we’ll continue having 2 Division 3’s, in that case there won’t be relegation and we’ll keep filling the Div3 spots with new players.

I couldn't see anything about merging Division 3A and Division 3B but if I missed it please correct me.

If such thing happens I would like to have a rematch against you by preparing better this time. Cool

First I need to talk to my players about where we made the mistakes the most. Tongue

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Quote from: Trofo on February 07, 2024, 05:43:36 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on February 07, 2024, 04:21:11 PM

Chelsea and their bullshit ways, of going extremely dead cold one matchday, and resurrected full of life the next always bothers me, it's as though whenever it comes down to them this season, football has nothing to do with form, and player availability, playing at home and whatnot, all you just need to do is flip a coin to place bet Huh

Never thought they have any chance tonight. Especially after I have seen Palmer benched. Ah well at least it is good result for my FPL plans

New article is up:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/soccer/news/bitcointalk-sports-fanatics-league-round-13-recap

It is actually up for quite some time but I know nobody would read it if I don't post it here, so here it goes once again. Getting really close in these last rounds, tried to cover that as much as possible.

Hi Trofo
the next rund , itrs for cup, or final round in devision 1/2

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Quote from: Harkorede on February 07, 2024, 10:50:33 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on February 07, 2024, 05:44:52 PM

We're inconsistent, the players need someone to inspire them, and Poch doesn't have the balls to get this shit in order. He's been here since June 2023, yet he doesn't have a starting eleven yet. Play good today; reorganise the team for the next game and start over.

Professional costing multimillion of pounds still needing someone to inspire them about their life long dream of becoming a pro player and player at the topmost level of football, If they can't inspire themselves no one can, Since Cole Palmer came to Chelsea, he's the youngest amongst them but he has been more of a leader and carried the team than most of others with the heavier tags combined, they only teach tactics, they can't teach how to get hungry or tasty for success, if an hungry team mate can't inspire you, there is very little to what the coaches' philosophical teachings or instructions would do.

You're wrong; in addition to teaching you techniques, a coach's role is to motivate his players and instill a warrior mindset in them by placing words in their heads that will make them want to go to war for you. Conte, Mourinho, and Pep; these coaches strengthen you tactically and mentally, instilling a winning attitude. Cole Palmer recently left Pep, so it's hardly surprising that he's more motivated than our attackers.

There are coach to players counseling and talking days in every club; this is where the Coach do more of talking.

Quote from: Trofo on February 08, 2024, 01:30:06 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on February 07, 2024, 05:44:52 PM

Why is the Asian cup question in yellow color? @Trofo

In short, question is void since the game finished before the deadline and we had definitive answer. We also had a shitload of VAR usage on it so actual answers would have been much more predominantly no than what table actually shows.

There is about 2 pages of posts about that if you want more info.

Fair. Good call.
Jordan defeating Korea was shocker not sure how that happened - Asian cup final is going to be a battle of the Mid.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on February 07, 2024, 04:50:27 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on February 07, 2024, 04:09:51 AM

So I don't really get this. Maybe, I would now recommend to rule out any possible questions that settle within 5 hours of deadline. If truely we care about people with timezone difference, this is the most fair.

Not really applicable - it is quite hard to put questions on Sunday for Tuesday. If we were to have another 5h buffer, we wouldn't be able to have a lot of questions (example Tuesday's Champions League).

The solution is simple - in the future we will just explain in advance in which situations the questions are void and in which they will be graded.

I understand a lot of you are upset, but you are kinda looking at it from a skewed perspective. A lot of people used VAR anyway, so the 'point advantage' you see when you look at the spreadsheet now would probably not be there anyway.

Bottom line - stuff like this only makes us better, so we'll find a way for things to work and be even more transparent without ruining the experience. Trust in the process Grin

Did you use VAR @leea-1334? Cause I noticed you had South Korea for goals

I meant 5 hour buffer before deadline. So no games that are settled from 1pm to 6pm deadline. This is for timezone purpose 8pm to 1am. After daylight savings comes this becomes even worse 9pm to 2am for those in Asia timezone. Then nobody in this timezone has to wait past midnight just to avoid the "disadvantage". I mean, since it was partially bringing up timezone issues for fairness, isn't this more "fair"?

Champions League or most Europe sports Tuesday is all from 6pm onwards anyway IIRC, so those questions are not affected right?

I know you guys have a hard hard time about making things fair for everyone and I accept is as I said before and trust the process we all trust you guys work hard

But anyway, moot point and just saying its my opinion to consider. People like Chi20 and me still will stay up late for these kinds of questions so BSFL has our dedication, but just ranting

We stay up and use VAR, because we suffer if we don't in the past, so it's not nice feeling to go through that trouble, and then it wasn't even needed.

Lol I know I'm being like Mourinho because I'm scratching for all points to not get relegated so forgive me

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Wow! I don't know if all of us are tired from a long season, but this "sea of red" in the table says that none of the teams are in their best form. Harkorede is the only one who has all three correct points so far but he is up against cls63 who has two correct. Tough luck... If he was up against any other team in division 1, he would probably have secured a win already.

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