Topic: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ - page 665. (Read 119005 times)

I guess that if someone from Division 2 doesn't want to pay the fee, he will stay in Division 2 and his opponent will stay in Division 1. At least that sounds logical to me... Or is it?

Yep, it's in the rules:


2nd Division will always be free to play, but it is paid out from the Div1 signup fees.
We'll make sure though that the Div1 rewards are set up in a way that almost everybody gets it back.

Currently buy in is ~60$, and 11th position reward is 100$. We plan to continue with this method and share rewards like this in the future.
3rd place in 2nd division earns 100$, so you'd basically cover next season in the 1st Division from that alone.

Fear of relegation haha, yeah, I know very well that fear -- in the case of my local club, throughout my lifetime, all the way to the painful end where we actually just got dissolved.

Once I see who's not joined, I'm going to start spamming DMs (but I agree, don't think we'll have a lack of interest).

Not important for me, but might be for others: what happens in the new season with teams promoted to the 1st division? Are they then required to pay a fee? And those relegated no longer paying? I sense this to be something of a point with some people (knowing people).

Competition starts on time since schedule is quite tight. We will have enough players for first two divisions for sure so I don't see any problems there. If third divison has few less players it isn't that big of a deal. But I am still thinking it is more likely that we have to turn people away than that we have empty spots.

There is also quite a few people I expect to sign up that still haven't showed here.

Yeah, we plan to start on Monday to catch the CL games. Maybe we'll rebalance the leagues a bit, we'll see.
Considering that we have a fixed amount of possible rounds until the football season ends and SB wants to crown the winner at the same time as Arsenal are crowned champions, for this season our options regarding league size/potential fixtures list is a bit limited.

We'll know more in a few days, the applications for the 1st league are closing soon (these are closing a bit earlier because we need to collect entrance fees) and we'll be a bit smarter then.

Absolutely! The guys held the World Cup competition without any problems and while this competition will probably be more work, I'm sure they will once again do a great job. Will you start the competition on Monday even if you don't get enough applications to fill all three leagues? Will you start the competition with less players to start with?

I'm still yet the full picture of how the competition would work out, but I don't want to read too much into it just yet and try to get ahead of myself, there are just about enough pools to worry about for now, However, I'm pretty sure that with you and Trofo at the helm of affairs, there is absolutely nothing to worry about, I can only just look forward to it.

No, currently they remain in the 3rd league. They are just the only ones that aren't getting any rewards.
In later instances, when we will have 3 leagues with 20 players, these 3 players will probably be removed from the competition and new 3 players will be given a chance to enter.

But let's go step by step, we'll see how we'll deal with that when hopefully we reach that point. For now everybody remains in the competition.

That may be true, but getting relegated isn't that terrible thing. You still earn rewards in the second league as well, even though they are not that generous. The only thing that Trofo and cryptofrka didn't mention (or I didn't get it) is what will happen with people that end up in the last three spots in the third league. Do they get kicked out of the competition? And if they get kicked out, can they return somehow?

I don't want to overthinking it, but starting from 3rd division is the way that should not be subject to any complains, and if you think you deserve to get into top division, you will in six months (two seasons) if everything goes well
anyway, I don't have anything against you two playing with all others, not sure if there is a slight advantage since you are choosing questions, so there is an edge to familiarity to sports that will be added, but I don't see that as big advantage, guessing outcomes is never easy and requires some luck as well

being placed in 1st division brings with it "fear from relegation" , so everyone should think before wishing it

I personally have nothing against both of you participating because you get to choose the questions, but you don't know the outcome. As for the league you will be starting in, you can always start in the second league and climb your way up to the first league. That way no one can say that you gave yourself a spot in the first league. Do like you think is best, but I don't think that you two should be excluded because you don't have any advantage except that you get to pick participants.

Besides, I don't understand why would anyone complain about being placed in the second league. It is less rewarding, but you still get to play and climb your way to the first league.

Sportsbet will let us run it the way we think is best, at least at the beginning.
We are the ones that want this thread to be an overview of all important sports events/milestones happening at that moment.

That is why we will implement some less known sports during important events, to try and familiarize you with that sport as well.
But, it will be a minority so you will still be able to win even if you follow only football, tennis and basketball.


Cup is a nice idea, it was discussed and will probably be implemented once we get the competition running smoothly. Until then we will keep the league format only, so there will not be a cup in the first 2 seasons for sure.

Regarding us playing - if the spots won't be filled, maybe we'll start from the 3rd division and see how the community feels about it. If we do plan to participate, we will make a survey asking for your opinions.

We really really want to, and we don't see us having an edge here. But after all - we organize this for you and want you all to be satisfied.

I would argue that I deserve first division in competition like this and if it was run by someone else I would probably got it and nobody would have a problem with it. But it gets funny if I am also the person that chooses who goes into which league doesn't it?

I am sure there will be people in second league that think they deserved better but places are limited and we can only fit 14. At least if we exclude ourselves nobody can have that argument.

I just thought about it, the worse I can image is not quiet people in the league but getting stuck in low division for 5 seasons. Maybe, there must also be league cups (side contest) that all divisions participate for same prize.

After the season, extra cup spots with qualification from league position.

Random draw for H2H like World Cup style

This gives extra incentive for people who get stuck in same division for many times, so they don't give up, what do you think?


I would say you both have the right to participate, there is absolutely no advantage I agree, it's like bookies making markets, just because they set the odds doesn't mean they know the outcome except well ok they know the "real odds"?

But I would say if there is no objection, I have no problems, I hope noone else does. It would be even better to me to have you guys participate so we can all measure our results against the league founders and btw league founders all played the leagues in every country, made the rules but aso played by the same rules


Kabbadi is probably one of oldest sport in the world. It's like rugby + wrestling I guess. National sport of Bangladesh, that's how I think I first heard out about it, but actually the first time I really saw it was because of Sportsbet! IIRC in their ANN they were posting some stuff about it, or maybe it was one of the 4-3-free specials for a while, I can't really remember. So I know for sure it has betting options at Sportsbet before.

Like you said, visibility is business, less sport. Kabbadi is very very old, and used to settle disputes in villages lol


That's why I would say no to stuff like waterpolo (or as I said kabbadi above). It is not representative enough, but for sure tennis and even American sports although I don't follow, I know it's more "universal". Unfortunately again only because of visibility/business.

I believe you and me are among the little wagerers, lol and yet we don't mind paying fees. In forum you can see people talk big a lot like they bet so much but cannot pay 1 fee per season, very "strange" indeed.

Thank Cro2/Sb for organizing this BSFL.

With so much sport ahead of me, I don't know if I have to do sit-ups, go for a run, do exercise routines or just use GS. Smiley And/or incorporate Club House TV into my routine.

Although I will surely have to incorporate some Streaming, I think it would be good for the first Division...


For others divisions, YouTube and ESPN, it would be fine. 

fM, 🥊!
^{...Waiting for Cro2 "Draft" to Start!}

As far as i know the vast mayority of us are from the occident. So if we dont have a +20% of participan from the eastern side, i think we can not put that sports in the extras.

I dont know nothing about all that sports, i know maybe SB want this, but for me we can stay with the clasics one, like Tenis, NBA, F1, etc.

I know i can google some things but its not the same.

In other things i dont know why people dont want to pay a little fee when like cryptofrka said, in all the spots you have a reward. And who is talking its a man without so much money, im a very little wager.

what is kabbadi? I know i can google it, but first hand explanation would be great

hey, I am all in for low visibility sports (those are real sports, high visibility sports are mostly business, less sport), and low range competitions, but those would not cater for broad audience
and moreover, this is closer to gambling than to sport competition, so included sports should have some gambling visibility as well

Challenge accepted. I can add 4th division just for battle between me and you

I am properly pissed I can't be part of this competition and I know cryptofrka feels the same. We don't have any real advantage but there would always be somebody that would have problems with our participation if we do well. If you or anybody else trough the season would love a side bet we can make it any point. I usually have a couple of side bets on the forum every season but somehow this one went without them.

I know you don't like me very much, maybe because I am better gambler master than you, but I decided to join League of Fanatics and pay participation fee.
If I don't make it in first division I will blame you, and than I propose we are going to make one to one betting competition between me and you to settle our differences 

The thing here is that only 14 spots need to pay - and the reward for the worst one is almost as good as the fee alone.
There are 28 free spots available - where you play only for profit (although smaller than in the 1st Division of course).

Once we start, it will be much harder to get a spot - because only 6 people will be able to join for Season 2. And when we reach 60 players - well, then it will be practically impossible to get a spot in the future.


It is more work with that, but also with schedules and league placements that will have to be done for each league after each game.
Every game will be a P2P duel that will have to be manually resolved.
Still, we aren't complaining, we are thrilled to do this


I don't know a thing about cycling or pole vault hahah. We will make a thorough research for every sport/question, and won't introduce something just for the sake of it.
These were just general examples - don't worry too much about it. We'll make it fun