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Topic: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION - page 4. (Read 2268 times)

member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10

Does everyone in your family have different last names?


I am not inclined to post my personal details here and can you answer me "why withdrawal only mode is not enabled?" and "why I am allowed to gamble if you believe I have done anything illegal?"

From what I know if a player fails to complete the KYC they are put on the "withdrawal only mode" so I don't know why I am being treated differently here? Because the amount is $70k, right?

I am not having any other account apart from this and I don't mind if mods want to confirm that, I don't know the other 2 guys so please don't mix my case with them. I can accuse you are running the accounts just to sway away from the real case but obviously, that's not you.

I'll wait until the investigation is done and I have done nothing but stated facts that you are calling out as spam. I have lost COUNTLESS bets in the 4 years I ahve played at stake, how come they were never checked for legitimacy but as soon as I win it's being investigated?

Also I am not just a random spammer, I have written articles FOR STAKE (POSITIVE) in past, ask efialtis (BTCGOSU OWNER) if you don't believe me

I REPEAT, ONCE I HAVE MY FUNDS WITHDRAWN, I WILL CLOSE THE THREAD AND UPDATE ALL THE RATINGS LEFT ANYWHERE

I am allowed to deposit and gamble but NOT withdraw, please explain?

Mate- they aren’t going to pay you. Trust on that. Count it as a loss.

Not sure what happened with your case and sorry if you were not paid, but as a player for 4 years almost, I never had issues in past so I hope they will pay out. I request you or anyone who have complaints to please avoid posting as that isn't helping my case and only making it more complicated.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 2

Does everyone in your family have different last names?


I am not inclined to post my personal details here and can you answer me "why withdrawal only mode is not enabled?" and "why I am allowed to gamble if you believe I have done anything illegal?"

From what I know if a player fails to complete the KYC they are put on the "withdrawal only mode" so I don't know why I am being treated differently here? Because the amount is $70k, right?

I am not having any other account apart from this and I don't mind if mods want to confirm that, I don't know the other 2 guys so please don't mix my case with them. I can accuse you are running the accounts just to sway away from the real case but obviously, that's not you.

I'll wait until the investigation is done and I have done nothing but stated facts that you are calling out as spam. I have lost COUNTLESS bets in the 4 years I ahve played at stake, how come they were never checked for legitimacy but as soon as I win it's being investigated?

Also I am not just a random spammer, I have written articles FOR STAKE (POSITIVE) in past, ask efialtis (BTCGOSU OWNER) if you don't believe me

I REPEAT, ONCE I HAVE MY FUNDS WITHDRAWN, I WILL CLOSE THE THREAD AND UPDATE ALL THE RATINGS LEFT ANYWHERE

I am allowed to deposit and gamble but NOT withdraw, please explain?

Mate- they aren’t going to pay you. Trust on that. Count it as a loss.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10

Does everyone in your family have different last names?


I am not inclined to post my personal details here and can you answer me "why withdrawal only mode is not enabled?" and "why I am allowed to gamble if you believe I have done anything illegal?"

From what I know if a player fails to complete the KYC they are put on the "withdrawal only mode" so I don't know why I am being treated differently here? Because the amount is $70k, right?

I am not having any other account apart from this and I don't mind if mods want to confirm that, I don't know the other 2 guys so please don't mix my case with them. I can accuse you are running the accounts just to sway away from the real case but obviously, that's not you.

I'll wait until the investigation is done and I have done nothing but stated facts that you are calling out as spam. I have lost COUNTLESS bets in the 4 years I ahve played at stake, how come they were never checked for legitimacy but as soon as I win it's being investigated?

Also I am not just a random spammer, I have written articles FOR STAKE (POSITIVE) in past, ask efialtis (BTCGOSU OWNER) if you don't believe me

I REPEAT, ONCE I HAVE MY FUNDS WITHDRAWN, I WILL CLOSE THE THREAD AND UPDATE ALL THE RATINGS LEFT ANYWHERE

I am allowed to deposit and gamble but NOT withdraw, please explain?
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1278
Primedice.com, Stake.com
Worth noting that CoinsRUs123 is alleged alt of LetsGetIt834 who has a history of creating accusations against stake, then deleting them, then creating them again, and then deleting them, in obvious attempt to shake down Stake.

Stunna, if you reward these guys for the smear threads, even a little bit, especially when they're obviously lying about the situation, plan on dealing with many more threads like this in the future.

I'm not sure what their agenda is, perhaps this is a group of match fixers who try and post to smear to encourage better outcomes. Ultimately the team will decide these outcomes not myself so spamming these forums is not going to help.



In past I have done more than 10 articles all positive about stake so it must be clear that I have NO personal problems here neither I intend to extort money out of them. $70k is not something I can shrug off either and let it be.

Is this true:

He has sent documents of at least 4 different people in his attempts to get verified.

Is this you:

I won 2 BTC and stake has banned me Sad

MY KYC IS PENDING FOR 15 DAYS AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME GAMBLE AWAY MY MONEY BY DELAYING KYC


Good catch here!



Is this you:



No, that's not me.

Regarding the 4 different documents: They required documents in English and refused to cooperate at all, which is why I had to submit documents of my family members. I have already told them but not sure why they are playing around the wrong point.

I have provided them with everything they have asked for, I just don't understand why they cannot put the acount in "withdraw only" mode as Edward claimed on his stream. He clearly said, they are not blocking any accounts but at worst put them on withdraw only mode.

If they believe I shouldn't be a player how I am allowed to gamble even now? but just not allowed to withdraw.


Let's see how long the investigation takes.



Does everyone in your family have different last names?
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
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Interesting. Did they explain to you why your account was frozen? Did they ask you for KYC documents? Have you verified your account? Tell us more about the issue. And how it was ended? I guess Not only stake, But every casino will say that it's your fault because you didn't wait and you gambled. If you lose your fund by gambling, yes, It's your responsibility. But, I believe, If you were not able to withdraw, Your account should be restricted to make another bet until you are able to make a withdrawal request. This is the serious thing that Stake should have to think about. You should know that anything can happen in Gambling. You can win Huge or you can lose everything even you have a high bank roll. Depends on your gamble Strategy. So, You should not blame the casino if you lose.

I would have said it's FULLY my fault IF and only IF my account was FULLY frozen including "no bet's" status but to allow me everything but only disable withdrawals is just a scheme Casinos use to exploit losing players because they know if a player with my stat's has long enough most likely the funds will be lost back and if not they can still decide to not pay me so it's basically 100% in their favor and this should not be accepted by any community because these Casino's make already enough. I am a super high level member so to be treated that way is one thing but to play then such psychologically games is just another thing. Anyways I will open my own thread about this to not take away anything from this thread but I fully agree with the user affected on this thread saying "why on earth would stake let him play IF they have all these doubts?" it's simply because IF he wins they will never pay him IF he losses it all they get what they want just like with me.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 523
Edited Out.

Interesting. Did they explain to you why your account was frozen? Did they ask you for KYC documents? Have you verified your account? Tell us more about the issue. And how it was ended? I guess Not only stake, But every casino will say that it's your fault because you didn't wait and you gambled. If you lose your fund by gambling, yes, It's your responsibility. But, I believe, If you were not able to withdraw, Your account should be restricted to make another bet until you are able to make a withdrawal request. This is the serious thing that Stake should have to think about. You should know that anything can happen in Gambling. You can win Huge or you can lose everything even you have a high bank roll. Depends on your gamble Strategy. So, You should not blame the casino if you lose.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
They got me with their scheme. I am the prime example. I had 34k EUR on my account after being 2 years in a row in minus for a total of over +200k (they never once froze my account as long I was giving them more and more profits, the second I made a decent profit of 34k EUR they froze it right away).

Nobody wrote me for +3 days while they said it shouldn't take long until they respond. Got me to get mad continue playing and manage to get it all back to 0. Once I hit 0 they suddenly replied to me.
Fact here is I wanted to withdraw when I won and stop playing but because they knew my account history that I was always in minus up to that point they played this scheme with me.

Maybe some won't understand this and just say "your own fault" you should just not have played but that's making it way too easy for Stake because when they freeze an account for whatever reason it should NEVER EVER be possible to continue playing, depositing, and basically doing everything possible without being able to withdraw.

The reason why Online Casinos and Stake do this because if you were to win more they could always decide to not pay out while when you lose it all back they got what they wanted.
Some of you might be able to relate to this but once funds are out it's much harder to deposit them back just psychologically and that's why they do this.

I asked Stake to refund me for this lost balance from the moment I was not able to withdraw and if they decide to not do that for making it themselves easy to say "it's your own fault",
I will directly open a case over the official license operator of Curacao ([email protected]) and other places.

Simply because this type of behavior is just unacceptable and if these places get away with it, the exact same thing will happen to future players.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10


Is this you:



No, that's not me.

Regarding the 4 different documents: They required documents in English and refused to cooperate at all, which is why I had to submit documents of my family members. I have already told them but not sure why they are playing around the wrong point.

I have provided them with everything they have asked for, I just don't understand why they cannot put the acount in "withdraw only" mode as Edward claimed on his stream. He clearly said, they are not blocking any accounts but at worst put them on withdraw only mode.

If they believe I shouldn't be a player how I am allowed to gamble even now? but just not allowed to withdraw.




Let's see how long the investigation takes.

member
Activity: 200
Merit: 12
The other issues can potentially be rectified if you gave us full cooperation.

Look man, I am gambling at stake not at the odds provider's site so obviously, I am going to question you, makes sense? Also if you are just letting the player suffer while odds provider is the king, you better mention it somewhere that odds provider can fuck any player anytime they wish and STAKE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE nor going to help

Regarding cooperation, I have said many times that I am ready to provide whatever is needed. I was patiently waiting but at some point it starts to feel like "being polite was being taken as naive"

The string of matches you won big on are under investigation, and I don't have any update at this time or timeline for when they will update us. That's really all I have to say about this right now. I will update you when I have one. Not an ideal situation for either of us, but obviously we cannot let you withdraw at this moment.



If their winnings are from a string of fixed matches their account will likely be permanently banned.

Dang. I have a question. I don't watch matches and I am not a big fan of sports bet. I do like Dice games and I always enjoy playing dice games. But, Sometimes I watch a few special matches, for example, Barcelona VS PSG. Suppose I made a bet and I don't know if the match was fixed. So, I am going to be banned because I won the prize from fixed matches? If this is the situation and this is the rules of your casino, Fuck off dude. I am an average Joe who doesn't even know what happened behind the matches and you guys will ban my account permanently just because I won from the fixed matches.

Good question, probably not. If you were making a ton of bets on Uzbekistani Volleyball on multiple accounts and winning at a very high rate on players or events that are later found to be compromised then you would be reviewed. These situations are not common and we and our odds providers have teams of experts to monitor risk and do our best to prevent false-positives

You are saying those Esports matches were fixed?
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
Everything looks clean to me.

I hope they will resolve the problem.

They are trying to force me into gambling away the funds but to anyone here from stake " I WILL NOT GAMBLE AWAY THE FUNDS, PLEASE STOP WASTING TIME"

To be honest here, nobody forces you to gamble. Nobody says "make some bets or you won't get your money" .
Thats totally up to you to wait and see.

Of course it's a bad situation, I get that. It would be good if some stake representative would address this situation before it gets worse.

They don't but I agree with all those guys saying that if they block the withdrawals, they should also block other features until the process is done, don't you think so? I'm far from believing they scam people but this smells like a pile of sh*t. He may lose all, but what if he wins again? Even if we assume that the allegations against him have a basis. Why do they allow him to bet again? How will they do their calculations if he wins? That is what makes this situation even worse. He may lose and this is the best solution for stake now. However, if he wins, there will be new allegations or what? If they start the investigation process, they should notify him what portion of money is blocked. If he wins again, they may say that the win is abolished as he played with blocked money during the investigation, etc. They dig themselves deeper and deeper
jr. member
Activity: 37
Merit: 3
Worth noting that CoinsRUs123 is alleged alt of LetsGetIt834 who has a history of creating accusations against stake, then deleting them, then creating them again, and then deleting them, in obvious attempt to shake down Stake.

I can confirm with 100% certainty that he is.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 2
Worth noting that CoinsRUs123 is alleged alt of LetsGetIt834 who has a history of creating accusations against stake, then deleting them, then creating them again, and then deleting them, in obvious attempt to shake down Stake.

Stunna, if you reward these guys for the smear threads, even a little bit, especially when they're obviously lying about the situation, plan on dealing with many more threads like this in the future.

Don’t assume things. I am not an ALT of anyone. I speak the truth and only the truth. No clue who this let’s get it dude is and really don’t care.

Stake been scamming people for months now and that’s a proven fact! Prime example in this thread. Dude wins 70k and his account is blocked for allegedly betting on “fixed” matches. I’m sure those matches would have been considered “fixed” if he lost huh?

OP- I really hope you did slam these cocksuckers for a lot of money with your fixed matches mate. They deserve it.
legendary
Activity: 2520
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In past I have done more than 10 articles all positive about stake so it must be clear that I have NO personal problems here neither I intend to extort money out of them. $70k is not something I can shrug off either and let it be.

Is this true:

He has sent documents of at least 4 different people in his attempts to get verified.

Is this you:

I won 2 BTC and stake has banned me Sad

MY KYC IS PENDING FOR 15 DAYS AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME GAMBLE AWAY MY MONEY BY DELAYING KYC

member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Worth noting that CoinsRUs123 is alleged alt of LetsGetIt834 who has a history of creating accusations against stake, then deleting them, then creating them again, and then deleting them, in obvious attempt to shake down Stake.

Stunna, if you reward these guys for the smear threads, even a little bit, especially when they're obviously lying about the situation, plan on dealing with many more threads like this in the future.

I'm not sure about them but I have put my case as clear as I could and I agree that for anyone who has complaints with stake "please create a separate thread with proofs". In fact, once my case is sorted and whenever that happens, I will close this thread and update my review on various other platforms. I have no personal issues with stake, just need to withdraw my balance which even Stunna has confirmed now that is being held.

In past I have done more than 10 articles all positive about stake so it must be clear that I have NO personal problems here neither I intend to extort money out of them. $70k is not something I can shrug off either and let it be.
legendary
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Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!
Worth noting that CoinsRUs123 is alleged alt of LetsGetIt834 who has a history of creating accusations against stake, then deleting them, then creating them again, and then deleting them, in obvious attempt to shake down Stake.

Stunna, if you reward these guys for the smear threads, even a little bit, especially when they're obviously lying about the situation, plan on dealing with many more threads like this in the future.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Trust me, I had a friend who got scammed for 85k because they said “NBA matches were fixed” lol

I would like to request you to prove your claims. Are you Baskin's alt by any chance? We are in this thread doesn't mean that we taking any side to support. I would like to support the right side. We asked questions to both parties to be clear about the situation. Death thread is not allowed. So if you have any proof that stake Scammed your friend. Please ask him to create an accusation so everybody can be aware of them. If the thread is already created, I would like to check it out and get more experience about stake. We the forum members cannot do anything to help Victims but we can give appropriate feedback.  

And I actually have lot of respect for Stunna and stake to be fair. But really feels bad to have my funds locked for a month now and nothing concrete yet.

IT'S WORTH MENTIONING IN PAST WHEN I WON A BET ON A GAME THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE VOID, I DEPOSITED BACK THE MONEY AND PAID BACK STAKE, GIVEN ALL THAT IT'S A SHAME STUNNA YOU ARE SEIZING MY FUNDS


I could have run away that moment since I had withdrawn them!

sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 523
Trust me, I had a friend who got scammed for 85k because they said “NBA matches were fixed” lol

I would like to request you to prove your claims. Are you Baskin's alt by any chance? We are in this thread doesn't mean that we taking any side to support. I would like to support the right side. We asked questions to both parties to be clear about the situation. Death thread is not allowed. So if you have any proof that stake Scammed your friend. Please ask him to create an accusation so everybody can be aware of them. If the thread is already created, I would like to check it out and get more experience about stake. We the forum members cannot do anything to help Victims but we can give appropriate feedback.  
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 2
The other issues can potentially be rectified if you gave us full cooperation.

Look man, I am gambling at stake not at the odds provider's site so obviously, I am going to question you, makes sense? Also if you are just letting the player suffer while odds provider is the king, you better mention it somewhere that odds provider can fuck any player anytime they wish and STAKE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE nor going to help

Regarding cooperation, I have said many times that I am ready to provide whatever is needed. I was patiently waiting but at some point it starts to feel like "being polite was being taken as naive"

Baskin- don’t trust anything stunna says. Stakes odds provider “betradar” has been scamming people for months now. Trust me, if your matches would have lost, they wouldn’t have been “fixed”. The reality is, stake is run by two scammers. Edward craven and Mladen the Serbian scammer.

If I were you, I would contact stakes licensing body and file a report with them and also contact a lawyer. If a match is “fixed” odds provider shouldn’t have posted odds. Stake is scum.

Trust me, I had a friend who got scammed for 85k because they said “nba matches were fixed” lol
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1278
Primedice.com, Stake.com
The other issues can potentially be rectified if you gave us full cooperation.

Look man, I am gambling at stake not at the odds provider's site so obviously, I am going to question you, makes sense? Also if you are just letting the player suffer while odds provider is the king, you better mention it somewhere that odds provider can fuck any player anytime they wish and STAKE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE nor going to help

Regarding cooperation, I have said many times that I am ready to provide whatever is needed. I was patiently waiting but at some point it starts to feel like "being polite was being taken as naive"

The string of matches you won big on are under investigation, and I don't have any update at this time or timeline for when they will update us. That's really all I have to say about this right now. I will update you when I have one. Not an ideal situation for either of us, but obviously we cannot let you withdraw at this moment.



If their winnings are from a string of fixed matches their account will likely be permanently banned.

Dang. I have a question. I don't watch matches and I am not a big fan of sports bet. I do like Dice games and I always enjoy playing dice games. But, Sometimes I watch a few special matches, for example, Barcelona VS PSG. Suppose I made a bet and I don't know if the match was fixed. So, I am going to be banned because I won the prize from fixed matches? If this is the situation and this is the rules of your casino, Fuck off dude. I am an average Joe who doesn't even know what happened behind the matches and you guys will ban my account permanently just because I won from the fixed matches.

Good question, probably not. If you were making a ton of bets on Uzbekistani Volleyball on multiple accounts and winning at a very high rate on players or events that are later found to be compromised then you would be reviewed. These situations are not common and we and our odds providers have teams of experts to monitor risk and do our best to prevent false-positives
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 523

If their winnings are from a string of fixed matches their account will likely be permanently banned.

Dang. I have a question. I don't watch matches and I am not a big fan of sports bet. I do like Dice games and I always enjoy playing dice games. But, Sometimes I watch a few special matches, for example, Barcelona VS PSG. Suppose I made a bet and I don't know if the match was fixed. What will happen if the match was fixed and I win? I am going to be banned because I won the prize from fixed matches? If this is the situation and this is the rules of your casino, Fuck off dude. I am an average Joe who doesn't even know what happened behind the matches and you guys will ban my account permanently just because I won from the fixed matches.
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