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Topic: Stake or nitrogen my point of view - page 2. (Read 2311 times)

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
December 21, 2020, 04:56:27 PM
We never asked you to show any differences between NS and Stake, you decided to take a personal crusade after you didn't get what you wanted. We invited you to take part in our VIP program, which you replied saying that you are now getting millions of dollars in rewards and that you wanted us to do the same. We informed you that you are free to make whatever decision you find more convenient. That's all. But instead, you created this post in an attempt to make Nitrogen Sports look like a subpar option. I understand that you may be disappointed with our response, but these personals vendettas are not what we have expected from a VIP that has received a fair treatment, as well as thousands of dollars in rewards and bonuses. Stay well.

Max
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 4
December 21, 2020, 04:23:33 PM
I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
To show me like beger will not work for you max you ask me to show you the difference between nitrogen and stake i open this topic after i do that you send me email why you do that to nitrogen ,dont full people here ,you know well that nitrogen far behind stake and I don't need your bonus with 10 roll over i can copy to your emais that you send me to show the difference between the site ,when i write you that stake reward user for wagering and not only if they lose like nitrogen your response was ,good luck in stake we don't offer that.so people here are litel smart than what you think and ibam sure after this topic they know what site will bring them the most ,inwas stupid that i care and i send you before couple of days email and ask if nitrogen change anything,and I see your respond here. You want users come back to nitrogen change things thats all
This is Max from Nitrogen Sports, I've been replying to your emails for several weeks and I want to clarify a few things.

It is true that we contacted you via email and that we made you an offer for a $8K credit with one simple condition (no deposit required, 10X rollover).

"Lets try it its big bonus even with 10 roll over i am happy with that and i be happy to be back
"

A few days later, you sent me an email complaining about your account limits (which didn't seem to be a problem until you lost the bonus) and asking me to credit more funds.

We took the time to check your limits and informed you that they were never cut or adjusted, and that some lesser or minor leagues, for example, Israeli Basketball (Live Betting) are limited to $500 in some cases. We also explained you that general limits on major sports can go up to $60K (although, you keep saying otherwise).

All we have received from you is a few emails indicating that Stake is giving you thousands of dollars in incentives and rewards, and that since these rewards are action based, you don't have to accrue losses in order to receive an incentive. We replied saying that you that you are ok to receive your weekly rebate, but that no cash incentives were going to get credited in addition to the $8K you received. We also informed you that you were needed to reactivate your account in order to receive a new incentive. That never happened.

The part that I want to make clear is the following:

1- You never asked or inquired about any changes to the VIP program, platform, overall service, etc. All you did was sending an email saying that you were now receiving thousands of dollars in bonuses and incentives from Stake, and that you were expecting us to do the same.

2 - We increased your bonus deal and made some changes and adjustments, but now it seems that our effort was insufficient to your eyes.

3- Claiming that "NS won't change anything" is not only false, but also a malicious statement. It seems seems that your only goal is making NS look bad after I declined your request for a second bonus, which by the way, you wanted to have under your own terms (cash reward, no rollover, no deposit).  

Every VIP in our program is treated according to their action and loyalty. Your account has been inactive for almost a year (since February 2020), although, you have contacted us numerous times asking for free cash rewards and other bonuses (That's after the $8k we credited and that you happily took).

We granted an exception, you seemed to have no issues with the funds credited  (You even said that your were resuming your action on permanent basis after receiving the bonus). We are sorry to know that you find our deal to be insufficient, but that does not mean that NS is reluctant to treat players fairly and that we are not open to listen to their feedback and suggestions and reward loyal players. That is simply false. Have a nice day.

jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 4
December 21, 2020, 04:15:01 PM
You so wrong I compare this 2 sites because i know them well i loved nitrogen in the past and no i dont get anything from stake for this topic i just help people to know the difference between the sites ,the big difference its instant withdraw and that stake give you ton of bonuses even if you in profit , nitrogen give you cash back if you winner you get shit ,and the important thing you can talk live with support 24/7 no woth emails like nitrogen we in 2020 almost 2021 and still no live chat on nitrogen,i know personally big beting people that move like me from nitrogen to stake like moss nelis litelkidd and more and more users belive me if nitrogen was good than stake why to move??  The only thing that i can say positive on nitrogen that if you chose to bet there your money is safe they dont scam people and they will pay you..
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1127
December 21, 2020, 01:11:25 PM
I don't get why would someone compare two places just for sake of trying to get free money from other place. I mean if you did a good marketing for them, they may have maybe paid you for marketing purposes if agreed upon beforehand, but if you didn't had any contract available about that, it would have been a no go for that as well.

However when you create a topic about how one place is better than another place and talk about how that place screwed you out of money with no proof at all, they are going to come out and provide you wrong.

Hopefully you will find a way to actually make that money back somehow, obviously not this way but hopefully some other way, hopefully you will win it at stake because by the looks of it you are going to gamble a lot of money there or so you say. But, you are not getting any free money from nitrogen as nobody in the world gets free money from anywhere if that place doesn't agree to it (meaning you can't blackmail them to give you more).
hero member
Activity: 3178
Merit: 661
Live with peace and enjoy life!
December 21, 2020, 10:17:31 AM
Foremost, we all have different point of views. For some, using nitrogen is better than stake of vice versa.
That being said, it is still a good thing that you have pointed this out, so enhancements could be made.
For instance, maybe one of the representatives of the gambling site will see it and make improvements on their website.

Yes and OP had made awareness to other gamblers who used either nitrogen site or stake site. This was an eye opener that we shouldn't have to stick to one site but instead look for another site wherever we find some inconvenience on their services to be able to pointed out what's wrong with that site or vice versa. From here we can personally analyze what should be the enhancements does that site needed to enhance or to change to be able to address it to other if have a chance to do.
I guess those who have used both sites knows the difference and knows which is the better site, and as you can read on the comments, most of the posters seems to agree with OP, so I believe OP posted an honest opinion regarding the site. What's significant here is for the Nitrogensports to know that they aren't anymore as popular as before as they can't keep their good service.
sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 269
December 21, 2020, 09:55:23 AM
Foremost, we all have different point of views. For some, using nitrogen is better than stake of vice versa.
That being said, it is still a good thing that you have pointed this out, so enhancements could be made.
For instance, maybe one of the representatives of the gambling site will see it and make improvements on their website.

Yes and OP had made awareness to other gamblers who used either nitrogen site or stake site. This was an eye opener that we shouldn't have to stick to one site but instead look for another site wherever we find some inconvenience on their services to be able to pointed out what's wrong with that site or vice versa. From here we can personally analyze what should be the enhancements does that site needed to enhance or to change to be able to address it to other if have a chance to do.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
December 21, 2020, 09:27:20 AM
I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

This is Max from Nitrogen Sports, I've been replying to your emails for several weeks and I want to clarify a few things.

It is true that we contacted you via email and that we made you an offer for a $8K credit with one simple condition (no deposit required, 10X rollover).

"Lets try it its big bonus even with 10 roll over i am happy with that and i be happy to be back
"

A few days later, you sent me an email complaining about your account limits (which didn't seem to be a problem until you lost the bonus) and asking me to credit more funds.

We took the time to check your limits and informed you that they were never cut or adjusted, and that some lesser or minor leagues, for example, Israeli Basketball (Live Betting) are limited to $500 in some cases. We also explained you that general limits on major sports can go up to $60K (although, you keep saying otherwise).

All we have received from you is a few emails indicating that Stake is giving you thousands of dollars in incentives and rewards, and that since these rewards are action based, you don't have to accrue losses in order to receive an incentive. We replied saying that you that you are ok to receive your weekly rebate, but that no cash incentives were going to get credited in addition to the $8K you received. We also informed you that you were needed to reactivate your account in order to receive a new incentive. That never happened.

The part that I want to make clear is the following:

1- You never asked or inquired about any changes to the VIP program, platform, overall service, etc. All you did was sending an email saying that you were now receiving thousands of dollars in bonuses and incentives from Stake, and that you were expecting us to do the same.

2 - We increased your bonus deal and made some changes and adjustments, but now it seems that our effort was insufficient to your eyes.

3- Claiming that "NS won't change anything" is not only false, but also a malicious statement. It seems seems that your only goal is making NS look bad after I declined your request for a second bonus, which by the way, you wanted to have under your own terms (cash reward, no rollover, no deposit).  

Every VIP in our program is treated according to their action and loyalty. Your account has been inactive for almost a year (since February 2020), although, you have contacted us numerous times asking for free cash rewards and other bonuses (That's after the $8k we credited and that you happily took).

We granted an exception, you seemed to have no issues with the funds credited  (You even said that your were resuming your action on permanent basis after receiving the bonus). We are sorry to know that you find our deal to be insufficient, but that does not mean that NS is reluctant to treat players fairly and that we are not open to listen to their feedback and suggestions and reward loyal players. That is simply false. Have a nice day.
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 506
December 19, 2020, 11:31:46 AM
Foremost, we all have different point of views. For some, using nitrogen is better than stake of vice versa.
That being said, it is still a good thing that you have pointed this out, so enhancements could be made.
For instance, maybe one of the representatives of the gambling site will see it and make improvements on their website.
sr. member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 272
1xbit.com
December 19, 2020, 10:49:42 AM
Support talk to you with emails wtf why not send us a Pigeon??.

Lmao this made my day.
I too also agree Stake is far better than many crypto Sportsbook.
Not only they provide instant support but there UI is also great.
The site is Mobile optimised and gives pleasing views to the eyes.

Moreover Nitrogen has wider variety of markets to bet on before the Live Event of a particular event starts.
But in case of Stake sometime I don’t find a particular event to bet until and unless the event is live.

Rest in every other aspects Stake Wins.
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 586
December 19, 2020, 09:21:25 AM

Well this also a Good action from Gambling site Limiting their Player not to engaged too much while in other sites they have no care about the bettors way of gambling.

Nitrogen have already generate an income from their software setups and i guess as long as Nitrogen has a players or gamblers that are willing to played or gambled with this site they may not get to upgrade their system. They may only set it as their priority if it were alreadt threatened their income.

I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

They probably won't give a damn as long as they can attract new players. This how it is for some business owners. They are not after improving their establishment because it already makes good money so why bother? If you want to make them understand, don't play there.

Nitrogen will not take this issues seriously as long as they can have an income generated from it. Their competitors like stale could still not give them a threat for their income that's why it isn't prioritize yet.



legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
December 19, 2020, 07:24:18 AM
I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

They probably won't give a damn as long as they can attract new players. This how it is for some business owners. They are not after improving their establishment because it already makes good money so why bother? If you want to make them understand, don't play there.
full member
Activity: 2590
Merit: 228
December 19, 2020, 04:21:24 AM
I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Have they Knew about this thread?i mean have you shared this to them so they might read the comments of other users ?most specially gamblers that also gave their thoughts on this matter?

If they did but doing nothing ,Now we already understand why one of this days Nitrogen may lose all their players.

I put this 2 sites beacose i know them pretty well
I try to ask sportsbet site If I want to bet them about limits beacose i saw better odds and lots of markets on sports the only problem I have its the limit money i try to send bet with 1000$ they limit me to 350 so for me stake it's the best option right now on sports betting I can bet them even on 40k per bet
Well this also a Good action from Gambling site Limiting their Player not to engaged too much while in other sites they have no care about the bettors way of gambling.
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 4
December 19, 2020, 04:01:43 AM
I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1922
Shuffle.com
December 18, 2020, 10:36:26 PM
nitrogen on the other hand are being silent for a long time or they dont have any new additions
Nitrogen did have new additions they've added new games on their casino like the slots and on the sportsbook side the new UI plus better odds provider. These changes might not be enough to bring back their old users but they're trying. We still see them post on their thread and other social media like twitter but there's rarely any discussion that's why they're not that visible.
 
full member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 122
December 18, 2020, 01:06:22 PM
I personally prefer Stake because of fast withdrawal and mostly because I like the UI of the website which is sleek.

As a participant of Stake.com signature campaign I experienced that I got my withdrawal confirmed in less than 2 minutes, right now, there are a lot of contest giveaways best time to be part of Stake, I hope Stake.com campaign will become another Bitvest and 777Coin both gambling sites are running their signature campaign for several years now, Stake.com can also do that.

Stake.com is a big gambling site, they are popular in the forum and I believe they have the budget to run a long term campaign. They will continue to make an exposure of their gambling site and advertising in the forum could really help. IIRC, this is the 2nd time stake had launch their signature campaign.
777coin and bitvest are continues campaign and never been stopped but stake campaign have stop before and they continued it recently but if the campaign goes well they may continue this for a longer time .
they are bigger now because they injected more games that come from the top gambling game providers and for the gamblers to know this they need to create awareness in this forum .
 nitrogen on the other hand are being silent for a long time or they dont have any new additions
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
December 18, 2020, 12:43:17 PM
Every gambling site has advantages and disadvantages and that can be seen or known after we are involved in it with different assessments.
and comfort must take precedence and good service, and besides answering complaints and questions properly by every customer and answering every question in detail so that customers stay.
Most of the gambling site users after playing for a long time on the previous site and the new site will definitely try it and will compare, and that's only natural because they want the best gambling site.

That's true but in this comparison that OP has made, stake is just overall a better and a more professional casino than nitrogen. Nitrogen just needs to improve themselves or else they'll be left behind. Maybe  not right away but it will happen.
sr. member
Activity: 2030
Merit: 269
December 18, 2020, 10:12:04 AM

As a participant of Stake.com signature campaign I experienced that I got my withdrawal confirmed in less than 2 minutes, right now, there are a lot of contest giveaways best time to be part of Stake, I hope Stake.com campaign will become another Bitvest and 777Coin both gambling sites are running their signature campaign for several years now, Stake.com can also do that.

Stake.com is a big gambling site, they are popular in the forum and I believe they have the budget to run a long term campaign. They will continue to make an exposure of their gambling site and advertising in the forum could really help. IIRC, this is the 2nd time stake had launch their signature campaign.

Still, nothing beats Bitvest and 777Coin in the gambling section when it comes to longevity in the signature campaign, if Stake.com will launch a long campaign, just like what Bitvest and 777Coin are doing, they are on to become one of the top gambling sites in the industry, gamblers want awareness and new gambler tend to look on gambling sites that do continuous marketing.
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 4
December 18, 2020, 07:38:44 AM
I put this 2 sites beacose i know them pretty well
I try to ask sportsbet site If I want to bet them about limits beacose i saw better odds and lots of markets on sports the only problem I have its the limit money i try to send bet with 1000$ they limit me to 350 so for me stake it's the best option right now on sports betting I can bet them even on 40k per bet
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1047
December 18, 2020, 05:21:29 AM
I personally prefer Stake because of fast withdrawal and mostly because I like the UI of the website which is sleek.

As a participant of Stake.com signature campaign I experienced that I got my withdrawal confirmed in less than 2 minutes, right now, there are a lot of contest giveaways best time to be part of Stake, I hope Stake.com campaign will become another Bitvest and 777Coin both gambling sites are running their signature campaign for several years now, Stake.com can also do that.
hero member
Activity: 3024
Merit: 680
★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
December 18, 2020, 04:44:05 AM
Every gambling site has advantages and disadvantages and that can be seen or known after we are involved in it with different assessments.
and comfort must take precedence and good service, and besides answering complaints and questions properly by every customer and answering every question in detail so that customers stay.
Most of the gambling site users after playing for a long time on the previous site and the new site will definitely try it and will compare, and that's only natural because they want the best gambling site.
The op has the reason why he's comparing the two.

He has legit reasons and his satisfaction has been met by the new casino that he has right now. No doubt that stake becomes better this time and they're more customer-oriented because they know what are the demands of their players.

It is the brand that's becoming known and common in crypto casinos today.
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