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Topic: Stake or nitrogen my point of view - page 5. (Read 2270 times)

hero member
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December 11, 2020, 04:59:33 PM
Not just im chossing stake over nitrogen just because im currently advertising them but I do prefer Stake when it comes to sportsbet as of this moment.

You would able to spot out the difference when it comes to responsiveness between platforms.I admit that im a nitrogensports lover wayback but when the
time comes that their service gradually fades out in the area of being comfort then I did tend to switch to sportsbet and
did try to land on stake and I didn't really expect that the user experience is entire different.
hero member
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I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!
December 07, 2020, 12:45:46 PM
This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.
Actually lets take out the bonuses offered because Gamblers has their pride in which can play in casinos they like even without offering just to stay.

But the main problem is the services,on how the Gambling site cater their player and the most important thing is the Withdrawal Issue and the Lack of support complying to every issue thrown by the players.

this why Good/loyal gambler flying to another site because those small issue but cannot be addressed right away.

Majority of casino is easily accepting our deposit but Being hard when comes to withdrawal.
The lack of customer support is something endemic in the industry, in a way I get it they are trying to reduce costs and when taking into account other aspects of the operation customer service may not seem as a priority, but when a player has an issue with the casino like with a withdrawal good customer service is key as it can be the difference between a small misunderstanding and a major problem, because as we know thanks to scammers people become very suspicious if they do not receive the money they are trying to withdraw immediately.
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
December 07, 2020, 04:32:55 AM


This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.

I agree a gambling site should cater to everybody, whales or small bettor, they should concentrate on the number and not on profit alone, of course, whales will bet a huge amount of money, but they should set up a community not just a group of whales, they need reviews coming from both whales and small bettors.

I am sure that every gambling site will have their fan who will always come to their site and spend their money by playing their favorite game. The loyal members will always stay at the site for a long time and maybe they will not move to other sites if they don't have a problem with their site. But they will try to visit the other gambling site, and sometimes they compare the services between the sites.
hero member
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Campaign Management?"Hhampuz" is the Man
December 07, 2020, 01:35:37 AM
This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.
Actually lets take out the bonuses offered because Gamblers has their pride in which can play in casinos they like even without offering just to stay.

But the main problem is the services,on how the Gambling site cater their player and the most important thing is the Withdrawal Issue and the Lack of support complying to every issue thrown by the players.

this why Good/loyal gambler flying to another site because those small issue but cannot be addressed right away.

Majority of casino is easily accepting our deposit but Being hard when comes to withdrawal.
legendary
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Hhampuz for Campaign management
December 07, 2020, 01:23:24 AM


This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.

I agree a gambling site should cater to everybody, whales or small bettor, they should concentrate on the number and not on profit alone, of course, whales will bet a huge amount of money, but they should set up a community not just a group of whales, they need reviews coming from both whales and small bettors.

They'll make more money if they will have a lot of volume of gamblers compared to whales.

Whales are smart, they are in the business to make money but most of the bettors will simply lose in the long run, and that's the advantage the casino has.

In terms of number of bettors, I think for now stake is bigger, you can tell by the bets being shared and their marketing is really effective that's why they were able to grow and compete with the biggest sportsbook in the space.
legendary
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December 05, 2020, 11:58:28 PM


This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.

I agree a gambling site should cater to everybody, whales or small bettor, they should concentrate on the number and not on profit alone, of course, whales will bet a huge amount of money, but they should set up a community not just a group of whales, they need reviews coming from both whales and small bettors.
legendary
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December 04, 2020, 04:55:51 AM
Inhope the topic help to people to understand what bookie need to be look its hour money so we deserve are best we can get from this 2 sites the winner is stake for sure, for any questions or help i am here always, now go make some money (=
So you declared your personal winner.
Stake seems to take good care of their players to make sure they will be betting more on their platform. Levelling up and get better perks, bonuses and giveaways come as a great advantage against competitors. We all know people like convenience and comfort and if you have a good platform with many games and lots of consideration for the players, then it's easy to become a platform of choice.
jr. member
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December 04, 2020, 03:28:16 AM
Inhope the topic help to people to understand what bookie need to be look its hour money so we deserve are best we can get from this 2 sites the winner is stake for sure, for any questions or help i am here always, now go make some money (=
hero member
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December 02, 2020, 06:17:15 PM
Therefore stake is better than nitrogensports? How come that nitrogensports which one of the most popular betting site in this forum before that gives quality payment as well as services turned into an inconvenient sports betting site. It only means that whatever popular today may encounter a fall in future. Now I understand why their activity for promotion and advertising goes slowly. Users will probably turn into other good betting and casino sites because they have the problem within their services.
It is not rare at all for a company that was at the top to no longer have that position if they take their position for granted, and this is especially true when it comes to casinos, after all we know the competition is fierce and that your competitors are always looking for a way to surpass you since that means a lot more money for them, and if the casino at the top is unable to keep up or think that players are going to keep playing there out of habit then they are mistaken as players are always looking for the best platform and bonuses they can possible get.  

One factor that really important, gamblers are always finding new offers that let them to stay or to change place when'
another casino offers a much better deal for them.

In this case, Stakes provide good compensations and lots of bonuses for those active gamblers who already reached the
wagering requirements. Those additioanal freebies will keep gamblers and attracts newbies.
This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.

As a business owner or you do set your foot to theirs then you would really be having that kind of mentality on which and whom you would really be keeping or
making some priority which is of course would be into those big bettors rather than on small one but overall if you do really look for longer run or long term
running business then you should really need to consider on applying on it as a whole.

Persistence and giving out all the possible things that would able to retain their players and wont easily tend to move out into something better places.
hero member
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I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!
December 02, 2020, 06:12:41 PM
Therefore stake is better than nitrogensports? How come that nitrogensports which one of the most popular betting site in this forum before that gives quality payment as well as services turned into an inconvenient sports betting site. It only means that whatever popular today may encounter a fall in future. Now I understand why their activity for promotion and advertising goes slowly. Users will probably turn into other good betting and casino sites because they have the problem within their services.
It is not rare at all for a company that was at the top to no longer have that position if they take their position for granted, and this is especially true when it comes to casinos, after all we know the competition is fierce and that your competitors are always looking for a way to surpass you since that means a lot more money for them, and if the casino at the top is unable to keep up or think that players are going to keep playing there out of habit then they are mistaken as players are always looking for the best platform and bonuses they can possible get.  

One factor that really important, gamblers are always finding new offers that let them to stay or to change place when'
another casino offers a much better deal for them.

In this case, Stakes provide good compensations and lots of bonuses for those active gamblers who already reached the
wagering requirements. Those additioanal freebies will keep gamblers and attracts newbies.
This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.
full member
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December 02, 2020, 09:47:09 AM

The poor services of the nitrogen is the reason why a lot of gamblers like me who withdraw their money and transfer it to another sportsbook and casino. There are now a lot of complaints and I do not know why it seems that the management of the nitrogen did not hear any of those complaints and rants about them. I actually recommend it before to my friends way back 3 years ago but now I discourage my relatives or friends to use that site because of the poor service and also the bad reviews of the gamblers like me. I'm part of the gambler who want to play in order to get entertainment and not to add up the stress that I'm keep taking.

Bad for them they were not able to retain their old customers, Nitrogen is one of the biggest crypto sportsbook before to my knowledge, but they slowly become obsolete while other sportsbook like sportsbet and stakes are improving, hopefully they'll come back on top.

yeah and "They Use to Be" because of Poor services in which the most important thing to maintain a online business.
Because in This area of business we have no personal interaction to our costumers/Players so each single concern must be address right away because the competition in gambling now is too strict and close,
so many new sites that can offer the things we cannot provide and they are willing to listen from suggestion to criticism just to make their business stay strong and profitable.

and that is what stake and primedice have now they have an award winning support that you can message and they will listen and respond to you immediately  but aside from support stake have other advantage such as thier promotions ,good graphics , active staffs like mods , supports , and many more  .

 I hope that stake continue this good performance if they don't want to be like other old casinos that became rusty and now being replaced by newer ones.
sr. member
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December 02, 2020, 04:35:24 AM

The poor services of the nitrogen is the reason why a lot of gamblers like me who withdraw their money and transfer it to another sportsbook and casino. There are now a lot of complaints and I do not know why it seems that the management of the nitrogen did not hear any of those complaints and rants about them. I actually recommend it before to my friends way back 3 years ago but now I discourage my relatives or friends to use that site because of the poor service and also the bad reviews of the gamblers like me. I'm part of the gambler who want to play in order to get entertainment and not to add up the stress that I'm keep taking.

Bad for them they were not able to retain their old customers, Nitrogen is one of the biggest crypto sportsbook before to my knowledge, but they slowly become obsolete while other sportsbook like sportsbet and stakes are improving, hopefully they'll come back on top.

yeah and "They Use to Be" because of Poor services in which the most important thing to maintain a online business.
Because in This area of business we have no personal interaction to our costumers/Players so each single concern must be address right away because the competition in gambling now is too strict and close,
so many new sites that can offer the things we cannot provide and they are willing to listen from suggestion to criticism just to make their business stay strong and profitable.
legendary
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
December 02, 2020, 02:42:40 AM
Full respect to nitrogen, they have been in this game a long time. The reality is because Stake is a licensed website it has access to some very powerful strategic partners as far as getting live odds, livestreams, slot providers etc. The playing field is not level in that regard Nitrogen will always be playing catchup with Stake from a product perspective because of how they have chosen to operate. That being said in my opinion Nitrogen is probably the only legit way for USA players to sportsbet crypto.
legendary
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November 30, 2020, 07:18:44 AM
I have used both bookies and none of the mentioned gambling websites are able to cover my needs as a professional service. The Stake has the lowest odds and the house edge per bet is higher compared to the alternative betting websites. Scam accusations are solved by the Stake team but the same is not true for Nitrogen, AFAIK. Maybe this is the main reason why the popularity of Pinnacle increases every year among high rollers.
See the OP here is biased about their own decisions. They have used NS previously, did not like them and moved on to Stake. That does not mean that NS is bad and Stake is good - totally incorrect. This is a personal choice based on many factors and one does not make the verdict.

What will suit your playing habit, withdrawal delays, support issues will depend on your experience and thus making up your mind before using the site is a wrong approach.

Every gambler willing to take their chances should use more than one bookie to play on. Stake is still new in the sports betting department while NS is older in sports betting.

you have a point, however, we are talking about the current situation and the current experience of gamblers, I think we have read enough that most of the posters here have favored stakes over nitrogen, but it doesn't mean it will stay forever, nitrogen could also improve if they consider the criticism as a way to improve the site.

Anyway, this is just my personal opinion too, doesn't mean NS is bad, i just like stake over NS.
legendary
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November 30, 2020, 07:00:08 AM
I have used both bookies and none of the mentioned gambling websites are able to cover my needs as a professional service. The Stake has the lowest odds and the house edge per bet is higher compared to the alternative betting websites. Scam accusations are solved by the Stake team but the same is not true for Nitrogen, AFAIK. Maybe this is the main reason why the popularity of Pinnacle increases every year among high rollers.
See the OP here is biased about their own decisions. They have used NS previously, did not like them and moved on to Stake. That does not mean that NS is bad and Stake is good - totally incorrect. This is a personal choice based on many factors and one does not make the verdict.

What will suit your playing habit, withdrawal delays, support issues will depend on your experience and thus making up your mind before using the site is a wrong approach.

Every gambler willing to take their chances should use more than one bookie to play on. Stake is still new in the sports betting department while NS is older in sports betting.
legendary
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November 30, 2020, 05:43:54 AM

The poor services of the nitrogen is the reason why a lot of gamblers like me who withdraw their money and transfer it to another sportsbook and casino. There are now a lot of complaints and I do not know why it seems that the management of the nitrogen did not hear any of those complaints and rants about them. I actually recommend it before to my friends way back 3 years ago but now I discourage my relatives or friends to use that site because of the poor service and also the bad reviews of the gamblers like me. I'm part of the gambler who want to play in order to get entertainment and not to add up the stress that I'm keep taking.

Bad for them they were not able to retain their old customers, Nitrogen is one of the biggest crypto sportsbook before to my knowledge, but they slowly become obsolete while other sportsbook like sportsbet and stakes are improving, hopefully they'll come back on top.
hero member
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November 30, 2020, 05:21:05 AM


If there's an evidence that a certain site is scamming its gamblers, I think it's just appropriate to say bad words to them as they have no room to make money here while scamming people. Crypto gambling is getting popular due to increasing number of good sites that caters gambler, so as a gambler, we have to help and protect that so the market will grow.
I don' think that it needs to be scamming before we Open our mouth Like what OP pointed in This whole thread.

Most of the reason are the incompetent Business status in which small issues has not been making action but from the beginning for sure there are reports regarding complaints and comments of gamblers.

But it is always good that We will not complaint and report our disappointment or disapprove because it is our right being User of their platform.

Exactly, we all have the right to curse them when their service is shitty because we are the one making them rich.
As a gambler, we are looking for the best experience, and it's okay to lose money as long as we have the best experience, in fact, that's the way to keep gamblers.

Besides that, if we got a bad experience, that will enough for us to keep staying on their site because we have much another gambling site which can give us satisfied. We can select one or two or even more to playing gambling, and we can also have a favourite of the gambling site, and if we leave the site, that is because we do not prefer with their services.
sr. member
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November 30, 2020, 03:15:01 AM
This is a well known fact. Stake is developed in such cases a way to attract all levels of gamblers. Nitrogen is good for the sports betting where you get access to pay with cryptocurrencies and other means of payment. Stake provides good rakeback for the high rollers which is something very impressive. Stake is developed after the popular primedice, which means they've well known and understood the user requirements and developed stake.com
Yeah, stake knows how to engage their gamblers by sending them bonuses from time to time like recently they sent out Post monthly bonus which was unexpected and they have a stream setup with Edward where he doesn't just entertain users with his game but also give out lots of free money to users.

I have played at nitrogen earlier and were decent but the engagement was never there, I mean I never felt like attached to the site although I had good friends in the chat but the site never made efforts to engage their users by sending time to time bonuses or at least some stream where we can get get to know the owners better.
The poor services of the nitrogen is the reason why a lot of gamblers like me who withdraw their money and transfer it to another sportsbook and casino. There are now a lot of complaints and I do not know why it seems that the management of the nitrogen did not hear any of those complaints and rants about them. I actually recommend it before to my friends way back 3 years ago but now I discourage my relatives or friends to use that site because of the poor service and also the bad reviews of the gamblers like me. I'm part of the gambler who want to play in order to get entertainment and not to add up the stress that I'm keep taking.
hero member
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November 30, 2020, 02:58:19 AM


If there's an evidence that a certain site is scamming its gamblers, I think it's just appropriate to say bad words to them as they have no room to make money here while scamming people. Crypto gambling is getting popular due to increasing number of good sites that caters gambler, so as a gambler, we have to help and protect that so the market will grow.
I don' think that it needs to be scamming before we Open our mouth Like what OP pointed in This whole thread.

Most of the reason are the incompetent Business status in which small issues has not been making action but from the beginning for sure there are reports regarding complaints and comments of gamblers.

But it is always good that We will not complaint and report our disappointment or disapprove because it is our right being User of their platform.

Exactly, we all have the right to curse them when their service is shitty because we are the one making them rich.
As a gambler, we are looking for the best experience, and it's okay to lose money as long as we have the best experience, in fact, that's the way to keep gamblers.
hero member
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Campaign Management?"Hhampuz" is the Man
November 30, 2020, 02:14:55 AM


If there's an evidence that a certain site is scamming its gamblers, I think it's just appropriate to say bad words to them as they have no room to make money here while scamming people. Crypto gambling is getting popular due to increasing number of good sites that caters gambler, so as a gambler, we have to help and protect that so the market will grow.
I don' think that it needs to be scamming before we Open our mouth Like what OP pointed in This whole thread.

Most of the reason are the incompetent Business status in which small issues has not been making action but from the beginning for sure there are reports regarding complaints and comments of gamblers.

But it is always good that We will not complaint and report our disappointment or disapprove because it is our right being User of their platform.
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