Stake or nitrogen my point of view - page 6.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on November 27, 2020, 12:26:57 PM

This is a well known fact. Stake is developed in such cases a way to attract all levels of gamblers. Nitrogen is good for the sports betting where you get access to pay with cryptocurrencies and other means of payment. Stake provides good rakeback for the high rollers which is something very impressive. Stake is developed after the popular primedice, which means they've well known and understood the user requirements and developed stake.com

Yeah, stake knows how to engage their gamblers by sending them bonuses from time to time like recently they sent out Post monthly bonus which was unexpected and they have a stream setup with Edward where he doesn't just entertain users with his game but also give out lots of free money to users.

I have played at nitrogen earlier and were decent but the engagement was never there, I mean I never felt like attached to the site although I had good friends in the chat but the site never made efforts to engage their users by sending time to time bonuses or at least some stream where we can get get to know the owners better.

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Quote from: Saisher on November 29, 2020, 08:45:22 AM

Nitrogen has scam report in the scam section plus their comparison to other gambling sites makes them inferior when they used to be the top online gambling site, the Nitrogen team should discuss this and talk about making the site great again, if Stake is beating them and many gamblers are leaving soon many new gambling site will beat them too.

I have used both bookies and none of the mentioned gambling websites are able to cover my needs as a professional service. The Stake has the lowest odds and the house edge per bet is higher compared to the alternative betting websites. Scam accusations are solved by the Stake team but the same is not true for Nitrogen, AFAIK. Maybe this is the main reason why the popularity of Pinnacle increases every year among high rollers.

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Quote from: Saisher on November 29, 2020, 08:45:22 AM

Nitrogen has scam report in the scam section plus their comparison to other gambling sites makes them inferior when they used to be the top online gambling site, the Nitrogen team should discuss this and talk about making the site great again, if Stake is beating them and many gamblers are leaving soon many new gambling site will beat them too.

They've been left behind by the other sportsbooks that we had today. I don't think that they care about any competition as long as they have loyal players on their casino but it's surprising to see a support representative of them replied on this thread.

Just in case some of you missed that, looked at pages 4 and 5.

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Quote from: Nellayar on November 21, 2020, 05:11:59 PM

Therefore stake is better than nitrogensports? How come that nitrogensports which one of the most popular betting site in this forum before that gives quality payment as well as services turned into an inconvenient sports betting site. It only means that whatever popular today may encounter a fall in future. Now I understand why their activity for promotion and advertising goes slowly. Users will probably turn into other good betting and casino sites because they have the problem within their services.

It is not rare at all for a company that was at the top to no longer have that position if they take their position for granted, and this is especially true when it comes to casinos, after all we know the competition is fierce and that your competitors are always looking for a way to surpass you since that means a lot more money for them, and if the casino at the top is unable to keep up or think that players are going to keep playing there out of habit then they are mistaken as players are always looking for the best platform and bonuses they can possible get.

One factor that really important, gamblers are always finding new offers that let them to stay or to change place when'
another casino offers a much better deal for them.

In this case, Stakes provide good compensations and lots of bonuses for those active gamblers who already reached the
wagering requirements. Those additioanal freebies will keep gamblers and attracts newbies.

Its normal for us gamblers to find another place when we do see that they are offering much more better than on the current we've been using.
We do always look for more better and which do give us even more chance to enjoy the perks and bonuses that they do offer and if the older
platform you've been using had been stagnant for a while or doesnt offer something interesting then high chance that you will really look for
another place on where you do seem that it is much better.I cant deny that Stake is trying to pull it off gradually and becoming much better.

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Nitrogen has scam report in the scam section plus their comparison to other gambling sites makes them inferior when they used to be the top online gambling site, the Nitrogen team should discuss this and talk about making the site great again, if Stake is beating them and many gamblers are leaving soon many new gambling site will beat them too.

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Quote from: South Park on November 28, 2020, 05:41:56 PM

Quote from: Nellayar on November 21, 2020, 05:11:59 PM

Therefore stake is better than nitrogensports? How come that nitrogensports which one of the most popular betting site in this forum before that gives quality payment as well as services turned into an inconvenient sports betting site. It only means that whatever popular today may encounter a fall in future. Now I understand why their activity for promotion and advertising goes slowly. Users will probably turn into other good betting and casino sites because they have the problem within their services.

It is not rare at all for a company that was at the top to no longer have that position if they take their position for granted, and this is especially true when it comes to casinos, after all we know the competition is fierce and that your competitors are always looking for a way to surpass you since that means a lot more money for them, and if the casino at the top is unable to keep up or think that players are going to keep playing there out of habit then they are mistaken as players are always looking for the best platform and bonuses they can possible get.

One factor that really important, gamblers are always finding new offers that let them to stay or to change place when'
another casino offers a much better deal for them.

In this case, Stakes provide good compensations and lots of bonuses for those active gamblers who already reached the
wagering requirements. Those additioanal freebies will keep gamblers and attracts newbies.

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Quote from: South Park on November 28, 2020, 05:41:56 PM

Quote from: Nellayar on November 21, 2020, 05:11:59 PM

Therefore stake is better than nitrogensports? How come that nitrogensports which one of the most popular betting site in this forum before that gives quality payment as well as services turned into an inconvenient sports betting site. It only means that whatever popular today may encounter a fall in future. Now I understand why their activity for promotion and advertising goes slowly. Users will probably turn into other good betting and casino sites because they have the problem within their services.

It is not rare at all for a company that was at the top to no longer have that position if they take their position for granted, and this is especially true when it comes to casinos, after all we know the competition is fierce and that your competitors are always looking for a way to surpass you since that means a lot more money for them, and if the casino at the top is unable to keep up or think that players are going to keep playing there out of habit then they are mistaken as players are always looking for the best platform and bonuses they can possible get.

It's obvious that every gambling business has their own unique tactics that will make them on top. And also obvious that part of business strategy to surpass the unique tactics of their competitors that's each business gambling should update their programs and their regulations especially when it comes on their pay outs for their gamblers. Because whatever the drawbacks of one gambling business will be the edge of their opponents to surpass.

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Different gambling sites has different features which attracts the gamblers of respective expectations. It looks like in overall Stake is better compared to nitrogen sports because of faster withdrawal amd continuous customer support but I think Sportbet is lot better than other sport books because they have wide range of games and events to bet with different kind of payment modes including fiat as well.

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I really can't say I like either of them, it is sure that they are both very very trustworthy without a doubt but they are not as easy to gamble as some other places. I mean stake is one of the oldest places in the crypto world when you include primedice, and they opened up their sportsbook a while ago and ever since that moment they have been working on improving it. But let's be honest, they are a casino at heart first and they do not do marketing properly for ages as well.

Nitrogen on the other hand has been around for a billion years so I trust them but they have a design and a system that is as bad as it could ever get. So at the end of the day, I am not going to name any names but I prefer to gamble somewhere else, it is much easier to use and a lot more marketing oriented at the same time.

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Quote from: Nellayar on November 21, 2020, 05:11:59 PM

Therefore stake is better than nitrogensports? How come that nitrogensports which one of the most popular betting site in this forum before that gives quality payment as well as services turned into an inconvenient sports betting site. It only means that whatever popular today may encounter a fall in future. Now I understand why their activity for promotion and advertising goes slowly. Users will probably turn into other good betting and casino sites because they have the problem within their services.

It is not rare at all for a company that was at the top to no longer have that position if they take their position for granted, and this is especially true when it comes to casinos, after all we know the competition is fierce and that your competitors are always looking for a way to surpass you since that means a lot more money for them, and if the casino at the top is unable to keep up or think that players are going to keep playing there out of habit then they are mistaken as players are always looking for the best platform and bonuses they can possible get.

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Quote from: Emitdama on November 23, 2020, 11:44:22 PM

stake is far better than most sportsbooks and only sportsbet.io comes close if I am asked to compare.

Yeah stake is a good choice but let me clear you that they also require KYC now if you wish to receive the best promotions and bonuses. They recently made a post in their telegram group about this and according to that anyone who wishes to receive the best bonuses or I shall say highest rewards will now have to do their KYC.

I understand stake wants to stop the abuse that is going on with multi accounts but I do not like the idea of paying smaller bonuses just because user has not done his KYC, I mean I would rather play at bet365 or some fiat casino if I am indeed have to provide KYC.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on November 28, 2020, 10:29:14 AM

Thanks for sharing the info. I am playing on stake for three years now and I can definitely say indeed, stake has some outstanding features that differentiate itself from others. The bonuses are great and community is user friendly. The chat is also nice, and you can feel like a home there. Rains etc as well. And the stake forum is good too. I haven't tried Nitrogen but I can definitely say the good stuff for stake.

I've heard a lot of good feedback from stake even my friends who played daily in stakes has no encounter any problem. Yes the bonuses are great in stake is what the users loves to use this gambling platform. I've tried to play before on nitrogen those time their platform is good but in stake it's different in terms of promotions and bonuses, much better with stake, users keep coming back to play in this platform.

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Quote from: Naamandror on November 21, 2020, 03:02:50 PM

Hi every one i am high roller gambler for long time i was on nitrogen for 2 years and find stake and play there now for 1 year, now i will tell you what i think
Nitrogen
Withdraw not instant but take 2 3 hours
Bonuses very lame to be honest, low nees rolls and this kind of shit
Fair site this i can sure you that your money is safe
I most of the time from phone and there site really not comfortable
Limit on bets if in stake i can bet 12k on game in there site its give e me 500$ max on low league
Support talk to you with emails wtf why not send us a Pigeon??

Stake
Withdraw instant you see the.the money in your wallet
Good site from phone very understanding akots of bets and live bets
Bonuses, what I love in stake no matter if you win or lose you get bonus every bet on sport worth you money every week
You have daily bonuses has well and monthly stake smile for winners he not limit them and i saw some bets with 200k, like i say the limit very high in bets
You talk with support 24/7
So for me i respect nitrogen and ita was nice home to me but i dont have good reasons to come back
I know more than 5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake, i am not earning from this post, just if you gambler you get much much more on stake.

Stake is clearly beating Nitrogen in many aspect, and this is not good for Nitrogen they should check the comparison and tried to upgrade the features that the gamblers think other gambling sites are beating them, if they are not going to do that they will lose more customers and until they find themselves in the bottom.

Also Stake is much more trust worthy than the Nitrogen sports. Also https://nitrogensports.eu/ is mainly a sports books only while stake.com is a full fledge gambling site which also offer sports betting and much more. I would prefer stake over Nitrogen.

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Thanks for sharing the info. I am playing on stake for three years now and I can definitely say indeed, stake has some outstanding features that differentiate itself from others. The bonuses are great and community is user friendly. The chat is also nice, and you can feel like a home there. Rains etc as well. And the stake forum is good too. I haven't tried Nitrogen but I can definitely say the good stuff for stake.

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The comparison Is too far and Looks like Nitrogen Needs renovation to cope with the rival Stake.

If this is indeed then Nitrogen must comply though I know nothing about the said gambling sites as i have never played on them.

Though i Guess OP should have added other Sites more than these 2 because the Thread looks like a direct criticism to Nitrogen and they Look like the worst Gambling site (but of course i Know they are not because there are many Scam site here that until now is active.)

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Quote from: plr on November 27, 2020, 06:06:25 AM

Stake is clearly beating Nitrogen in many aspect, and this is not good for Nitrogen they should check the comparison and tried to upgrade the features that the gamblers think other gambling sites are beating them, if they are not going to do that they will lose more customers and until they find themselves in the bottom.

Only if they can sort the problems and their trust page it would help a lot because nitrogen was a well known and big sportsbook so they have no problems about the number of players but they have to settle their dues and pay everyone whom they scammed and they might get better than stake if they improve all these problems.

Right now yeah stake edges them in everything and honestly if even Nitrogen solves everything they might not get a lot of players back but at least they can settle problems and start improving on features, but the priority has to be for settling scam accusations first before they improve features.

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Quote from: tippytoes on November 27, 2020, 02:42:37 PM

Quote from: Ayiranorea on November 27, 2020, 12:26:57 PM

This is a well known fact. Stake is developed in such cases a way to attract all levels of gamblers. Nitrogen is good for the sports betting where you get access to pay with cryptocurrencies and other means of payment. Stake provides good rakeback for the high rollers which is something very impressive. Stake is developed after the popular primedice, which means they've well known and understood the user requirements and developed stake.com

I remember primedice, it was the first crypto dice site that I played with. And really impressive that they sustain their presence in the crypto market, where most of its contemporaries exited when btc took a downward tun. So with their long experience in the gambling industry, they really do know how to keep their players happy and they applied it to stake as well. Not a high roller, so didn't experience most of what the OP described. But it is a good insight coming from a high roller's perspectives.

Primedice managed to work things out for Stake after establishing their business and gathered customers trust they bring the same level of business engagement to satisfy their clients and keep them coming back.

A very nice gesture that they've shown making sure that clients will feel comfortable while playing, a big factor with that is the branding of the business behind. Primedice backing it to assure gamblers that they're safe while using the Stake platform.

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Quote from: wiss19 on November 28, 2020, 12:22:01 AM

Stake has some bad limits on e-sports which is the only bad thing about them apart from that they have almost everything covered from bonuses to support and a friendly chat managed well by the moderators to avoid any kind of spam.

How bad is the limits on your end ? I haven't had any problems with the limits on esports maybe it's because I always bet on the live markets but i've seen a few users vent their frustrations in the chat.

Quote from: wiss19 on November 28, 2020, 12:22:01 AM

Yeah, true but one thing that makes me feel ballistic is why the user is asked to provide verification once they win big, I mean while he was losing big he won't be asked for any kind of verification but just because he wins something significant the website wants to wastes no chance and ask verification just to make sure that if there is a chance to gobble his money, they shall do so.

That depends on how big is the winnings if it's in the thousands some casinos would probably let you get away without verification(from my experience). Then again by gambling in their site we agree to their terms so we just have to follow or switch to another if the KYC is bothering you too much.

Quote from: daarul50 on November 28, 2020, 12:45:52 AM

I love how nitrogen provides a good price in the line as i often see stake cannot compete about this one, poor odds at stake.

Odds are slightly better on Nitro but Stake does compensate by releasing a lot of rewards and promotion.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 27, 2020, 04:26:18 PM

Quote from: tippytoes on November 27, 2020, 02:42:37 PM

Quote from: Ayiranorea on November 27, 2020, 12:26:57 PM

This is a well known fact. Stake is developed in such cases a way to attract all levels of gamblers. Nitrogen is good for the sports betting where you get access to pay with cryptocurrencies and other means of payment. Stake provides good rakeback for the high rollers which is something very impressive. Stake is developed after the popular primedice, which means they've well known and understood the user requirements and developed stake.com

I remember primedice, it was the first crypto dice site that I played with. And really impressive that they sustain their presence in the crypto market, where most of its contemporaries exited when btc took a downward tun. So with their long experience in the gambling industry, they really do know how to keep their players happy and they applied it to stake as well. Not a high roller, so didn't experience most of what the OP described. But it is a good insight coming from a high roller's perspectives.

I know Stakes or even Nitrogen is doing hard to satisfy their players and so they will coming back again and again.
Well, I know that we all have different preferences in terms of gambling experience and we choose those site that we feel and think that safeguard us. Some also had a bad experience to any of them makes them think about leaving and finding a new one better and maybe that OP has that kind of experience.

Stake for me has the best customer service, they treat players like a king that you can ask anything to them and they will get back to you very soon.
While nitrogen is sucks in managing its customer , a little bit rude and i believe a lot of people have run away from their site.
I love how nitrogen provides a good price in the line as i often see stake cannot compete about this one, poor odds at stake.
And isnt it nitrogen has several unsolved scam report here?

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 25, 2020, 02:35:56 AM

Which one required KYC ? I have accounts on both sites and no KYC so far usually it only becomes a requirement if you violated the terms and conditions or play with high stakes.

Yeah, true but one thing that makes me feel ballistic is why the user is asked to provide verification once they win big, I mean while he was losing big he won't be asked for any kind of verification but just because he wins something significant the website wants to wastes no chance and ask verification just to make sure that if there is a chance to gobble his money, they shall do so.

Quote from: ralle14 on November 25, 2020, 02:35:56 AM

It's a good comparison since Nitrogen was like the go to bitcoin sportsbook back then and on the other side you have a recently launched sportsbook that's providing a better experience. You're right both have good reputation but once you've played on both sites you can't avoid the thought of making a comparison between them.

Stake has some bad limits on e-sports which is the only bad thing about them apart from that they have almost everything covered from bonuses to support and a friendly chat managed well by the moderators to avoid any kind of spam.

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