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legendary
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There's no chance Stake would seize players money simply because they have more than one account.  I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of stake regulars have more than one account.  There's more to the story.
Like I said, check previous allegations on this forum.
Stake replies with a very descriptive reason when they ban someone.
This time it was clause 11, personal use - multiple accounts. They mentioned it explicitly not once, but twice AFTER suspending OP's account.

Please don't act it as if those screenshots don't even exist.
Out of all the previous allegations on this forum against casinos you're familiar with, how often did you believe that the player was sharing the whole story and not intentionally leaving out or making up details in attempt to make themselves look like more of a victim than they really are...in order to pressure the casino to pay them money they aren't actually entitled to.

Like I said, Stake won't just freeze your funds because you have multiple accounts.  Don't be naive, there is more to this story,

Also, 1xbit and 1xbet are the same company.
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There's no chance Stake would seize players money simply because they have more than one account.  I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of stake regulars have more than one account.  There's more to the story.
Like I said, check previous allegations on this forum.
Stake replies with a very descriptive reason when they ban someone.
This time it was clause 11, personal use - multiple accounts. They mentioned it explicitly not once, but twice AFTER suspending OP's account.

Please don't act it as if those screenshots don't even exist.


I am repeating myself here, I wouldn't have to if you went through the thread even once.

Or just read my conclusion
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60283976



That video is just describing casinos.  They exist to make a profit, pretty much all of them.  That doesn't make all of them scam casinos like 1xbit, which, in the long run I would argue could be much more successful if scamming players wasn't part of their business model.

Have you even seen the video?
The guy is a customer "account" supervisor and he's talking about online gambling.


and I meant 1xbet here, not 1xbit. 1xbit is nothing but a small fly.
Search 1xbet scam, and you will get to know what I mean.



Again, please read the post and entire thread before making any replies here. Thank you.
legendary
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This post reminds me of the guy that figured out some hack on gameart/isoftbet slots a while ago.


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mainly due to winnings in the slot machine

What were your biggest wins, and on which games?


According to Stake OP had multiple accounts.
Check their Email response and my summary about it.

It isn't due to match fixing or rigging. From what I have seen from past cases. Stake is usually descriptive with such cases and leave nothing for interpretation(I checked previous allegations upon stake on this forum).

This one stands out as a genuine case and seems very 1xBet'esque.


There's no chance Stake would seize players money simply because they have more than one account.  I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of stake regulars have more than one account.  There's more to the story.


This is what I mean by 1xbet'esque : https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

That video is just describing casinos.  They exist to make a profit, pretty much all of them.  That doesn't make all of them scam casinos like 1xbit, which, in the long run I would argue could be much more successful if scamming players wasn't part of their business model.
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This post reminds me of the guy that figured out some hack on gameart/isoftbet slots a while ago.


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mainly due to winnings in the slot machine

What were your biggest wins, and on which games?


According to Stake OP had multiple accounts.
Check their Email response and my summary about it.

It isn't due to match fixing or rigging. From what I have seen from past cases. Stake is usually descriptive with such cases and leave nothing for interpretation(I checked previous allegations upon stake on this forum).

This one stands out as a genuine case and seems very 1xBet'esque.



Thank you for the effort.
Many signature compaign users will come to say stake is big blabbla
I see a lot of scam accusations against Stake last few months
Hope everyone to becareful.


Maybe stake has joined the likes of 1xbet, casumo and other scammy fiat books. I hope not.

This is what I mean by 1xbet'esque : https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M
legendary
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Hello everyone, I'm sorry if I write with errors, I do the translation through a translator because English is not my native language. I registered on this site about 2 weeks ago to bet on Rolland Garros, baseball and basketball. Passed 2 levels of verification on the site. Since May 21, she has made deposits of more than $100,000.
Here are some of my additions:
1. https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc63728abc2e4e67654a181cc620fe1f9506b25b8365e928b04a461011c8ec7b5
2. https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1314e03025d3b9046b4623b276baf5dd2f8b42fc0a857a77a329e3bd55692524
3. https://etherscan.io/tx/0x944ebe77e3a5310edfdbcd7017ffdfda6cb581f03fe7c6f93bba98d937eeab9c

I also played casinos and slot machines at a rate of $20-100 per spin. I made withdrawals for about a total of about 80 thousand dollars, mainly due to winnings in the slot machine. I was also assigned the status of VIP platinum 3. After that, they made me the maximum bet on sports top events is very small and I wanted to withdraw my remaining 40 thousand dollars, but I was not allowed to do this. I contacted the chat and they told me that I need to write to them by mail, so I did. I waited for an answer by mail for exactly 5 days and they told me that I needed to send a selfie with a sheet of today's date and with a passport in my hand. I sent them everything they need. After waiting 3 more days, I received the following response:

Hello,

You have been banned on all of your accounts as you have been found guilty of breaching our terms of service (creating multiple accounts) as stated under item number 11. Prohibited Uses - Personal Use. Please see https://stake.com/policies/terms for further reference.

Regards,
Stake

I have no idea what multi-accounts they are talking about, and why was it necessary to ask me for my selfie if they are not going to pay anyway? My account is currently in the "withdrawal stage". But any conclusions are prohibited. I wrote to them in the chat, they also answered me that I need to write to them by mail. But the mail has been ignoring me for the 4th day. Please tell me who has come across this site and such an attitude towards customers? where should i file a complaint against them? I tried to write to Curacao, and I'm waiting for a response from them. I am also attaching some of my sports bets in case they suddenly want to accuse me of fictitious matches, as well as other participants in this forum. All bets were on top events.

1. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33689466&modal=bet
2. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33712166&modal=bet
3. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33709748&modal=bet
4. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33652169&modal=bet
5. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33713208&modal=bet
6. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33708570&modal=bet
7. https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A33802000&modal=bet






This post reminds me of the guy that figured out some hack on gameart/isoftbet slots a while ago.


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mainly due to winnings in the slot machine

What were your biggest wins, and on which games?

aew
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A couple of conversations with live chat are in Russian, so I asked OP to provide me with their text. So that I can translate it and post it here
Translation of live chats: https://pastebin.com/qXeG8M1V

Live chat wasn't of much help, they would ask OP to contact [email protected] ad infinitum

And so they did. :
https://i.imgur.com/re2mpz2.png


Please note that OP's account was already verified till Level 2  before the suspension and they did make multiple withdrawals without any problem
https://i.imgur.com/JrZC8ok.png

OP provided them with the requested documents within the time limit.


It took Stake 5 days to respond:
https://i.imgur.com/SrtZQQv.png



Even though it says "Withdraw only mode" https://i.imgur.com/UpBlDJh.png , they are unable to make any:

https://i.imgur.com/X787Qo2.png


My conclusion:
->OP has clearly proved their identity, and are ready to provide further verification(if asked for).
->They made a deposit from Binance(check original post for the transactions).
->They did use VPN. But it shouldn't be a problem, and many stake users do use it:
https://stakecommunity.com/topic/36688-does-stake-allow-access-through-vpn/
https://stakecommunity.com/topic/28281-what-will-happen-if-someone-plays-at-a-gambling-site-using-vpn/
->OP is from a war-torn country(your first guess will be correct; Additional hint: it starts with U), and 40k USD isn't a small amount for anyone residing there. A spilled wine would stain the forehead of any man or woman there(I will be very happy if you get the reference), given how the conditions are.
->Stake is using the most absurd clause of their Terms to deny OP their 40k USD. What's stopping them from using it on anybody? and why even ask for further verification (https://i.imgur.com/re2mpz2.png) if you have no intention of paying.
->If OP was using multiple accounts then how come they had no problems with their small withdrawals, but only WHEN they tried a big withdrawal constituting their entire profit(check statistics: https://i.imgur.com/mzMsx75.png)

This reeks. And I hope someone other than me will understand OP's position.

I had my own troubles with stake in the past, and they got resolved when Stunna got involved. I hope Stunna won't ignore this case. I have messaged them as well.

I can see books(eg:1xbit) getting what they deserve, I hope Stake won't get preferential treatment just because they are big and got Drake? And can stream more slots to kids on twitch? And ban users from war-torn countries from withdrawing their profits? Please.




Thank you for the effort.
Many signature compaign users will come to say stake is big blabbla
I see a lot of scam accusations against Stake last few months
Hope everyone to becareful.
sr. member
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A couple of conversations with live chat are in Russian, so I asked OP to provide me with their text. So that I can translate it and post it here
Translation of live chats: https://pastebin.com/qXeG8M1V

Live chat wasn't of much help, they would ask OP to contact [email protected] ad infinitum

And so they did. :
https://i.imgur.com/re2mpz2.png


Please note that OP's account was already verified till Level 2  before the suspension and they did make multiple withdrawals without any problem
https://i.imgur.com/JrZC8ok.png

OP provided them with the requested documents within the time limit.


It took Stake 5 days to respond:
https://i.imgur.com/SrtZQQv.png



Even though it says "Withdraw only mode" https://i.imgur.com/UpBlDJh.png , they are unable to make any:

https://i.imgur.com/X787Qo2.png


My conclusion:
->OP has clearly proved their identity, and are ready to provide further verification(if asked for).
->They made a deposit from Binance(check original post for the transactions).
->They did use VPN. But it shouldn't be a problem, and many stake users do use it:
https://stakecommunity.com/topic/36688-does-stake-allow-access-through-vpn/
https://stakecommunity.com/topic/28281-what-will-happen-if-someone-plays-at-a-gambling-site-using-vpn/
->OP is from a war-torn country(your first guess will be correct; Additional hint: it starts with U), and 40k USD isn't a small amount for anyone residing there. A spilled wine would stain the forehead of any man or woman there(I will be very happy if you get the reference), given how the conditions are.
->Stake is using the most absurd clause of their Terms to deny OP their 40k USD. What's stopping them from using it on anybody? and why even ask for further verification (https://i.imgur.com/re2mpz2.png) if you have no intention of paying.
->If OP was using multiple accounts then how come they had no problems with their small withdrawals, but only WHEN they tried a big withdrawal constituting their entire profit(check statistics: https://i.imgur.com/mzMsx75.png)

This reeks. And I hope someone other than me will understand OP's position.

I had my own troubles with stake in the past, and they got resolved when Stunna got involved. I hope Stunna won't ignore this case. I have messaged them as well.

I can see books(eg:1xbit) getting what they deserve, I hope Stake won't get preferential treatment just because they are big and got Drake? And can stream more slots to kids on twitch? And ban users from war-torn countries from withdrawing their profits? Please.


newbie
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Another 2 days have passed, but the situation has not changed, Stake.com also ignores all my messages, does not withdraw money and does not answer my letters

Have you included this thread in your communication, if not yet you should for them to become aware of the issue if they are aware they will send a representative and they will announce an investigation, this is not good and a big concern for OP this is such a big amount, I hope you can have a fair decision on this issue.
sr. member
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Another 2 days have passed, but the situation has not changed, Stake.com also ignores all my messages, does not withdraw money and does not answer my letters

It's strange that no one else has shown any interest in this thread.

Could you post screenshots of all the conversations you had with them? Make sure to censor your personal details, but keep the username.
It will strengthen your allegation and maybe then it will garner interest of other members.
newbie
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Another 2 days have passed, but the situation has not changed, Stake.com also ignores all my messages, does not withdraw money and does not answer my letters
sr. member
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I talked to OP over telegram;
1.) They do not reside in a prohibited jurisdiction
2.) They do use a VPN, but it shouldn't be a problem since it wasn't used to circumvent jurisdiction restriction(as the last few lines of clause 11 states)
3.) They did ask live chat whether using a VPN will be a problem, and they said no.
4.) They are ready to provide any further verification, from submitting additional documents to recording a video. They are ready to do it.

For now I fail to see a valid reason to halt their withdrawal.

You failed to see a valid reason without Stake addressing first the issue?, its OP side of the story, let us read first Stake's side of the story, before making a conclusion, Stake has an allegation of cheating and breaching their TOS and OP willing to defend let them discuss it here without taking a side.
Stake has already given their reason, breach of clause 11. Read the thread and post before replying.
legendary
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I talked to OP over telegram;
1.) They do not reside in a prohibited jurisdiction
2.) They do use a VPN, but it shouldn't be a problem since it wasn't used to circumvent jurisdiction restriction(as the last few lines of clause 11 states)
3.) They did ask live chat whether using a VPN will be a problem, and they said no.
4.) They are ready to provide any further verification, from submitting additional documents to recording a video. They are ready to do it.

For now I fail to see a valid reason to halt their withdrawal.

You failed to see a valid reason without Stake addressing first the issue?, its OP side of the story, let us read first Stake's side of the story, before making a conclusion, Stake has an allegation of cheating and breaching their TOS and OP willing to defend let them discuss it here without taking a side.
aew
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Since withdrawal only mode can you try to withdraw?
Also I recommend https://bc.game they don't require documents also never heard they didn't pay.
What odds provider bc use ?
legendary
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I talked to OP over telegram;
1.) They do not reside in a prohibited jurisdiction
2.) They do use a VPN, but it shouldn't be a problem since it wasn't used to circumvent jurisdiction restriction(as the last few lines of clause 11 states)
3.) They did ask live chat whether using a VPN will be a problem, and they said no.
4.) They are ready to provide any further verification, from submitting additional documents to recording a video. They are ready to do it.

For now I fail to see a valid reason to halt their withdrawal.
With such high stakes, bonuses and promotions are not cheated by doing a multi-account, they are too small in comparison to the amounts wagered. But contests could be cheated by such accounts. Then I think prizes paid could be kept by Stake during their investigations, but there is no reason to keep all his funds. And to take days to reply him.
sr. member
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I talked to OP over telegram;
1.) They do not reside in a prohibited jurisdiction
2.) They do use a VPN, but it shouldn't be a problem since it wasn't used to circumvent jurisdiction restriction(as the last few lines of clause 11 states)
3.) They did ask live chat whether using a VPN will be a problem, and they said no.
4.) They are ready to provide any further verification, from submitting additional documents to recording a video. They are ready to do it.

For now I fail to see a valid reason to halt their withdrawal.
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"withdrawal stage"? does that mean you can only withdraw from your account? if that is the case why won't they allow you to withdraw the 40K? did they say that the fund is confiscated? or they are the ones who will manually send you the funds?

you should try contacting their forum representative here Stunna and Symphonized or try posting on their thread for more exposure.

Yes, when I log into my account, I get the following message: Sorry, your account is on the withdrawal only protocol. Please do not refuse the help of the support service for protection.
When I contact the chat, they send me to their mail, on which they do not answer me. Their last message from the mail, after I sent them my photos, was as follows:
hello,

You have been banned on all of your accounts as you have been found guilty of breaching our terms of service (creating multiple accounts) as stated under item number 11. Prohibited Uses - Personal Use. Please see https://stake.com/policies/terms for further reference.

Regards,
Stake

I don't understand what to do
sr. member
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I would suggest archiving(www.archive.is) your bets and posting a screenshot of their E-mail response as well.

Does your ISP provide you with a dynamic IP? it's possible some other user shared your IP address and now they are using it as an excuse to hold your pay.

Gather your evidence, and post it at r/sportsbook as well.

r/sportsbook is a community of hardcore sports bettors, many are whales just like you. I will help your reddit post get some visibility there.

If they stick with their decision after a week, contact their gambling license provider in Curaçao.

Can you login right now? or not?


I can be on my account, but I did not log out of it, because I am afraid that later I will not be able to log into it again. Thank you very much, I made all the archives of my bets and also requested the statistics of my account, if they don’t answer me in the near future, I will do as you advised. No one uses my IP address except me, the account belongs only to me and only I made the bet.

Yes, statistics will help. Since they deliver statistics via E-mail, it will be good evidence proving your account's existence, ownership, and bets.

As other users have suggested, post a link to this thread at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-the-leading-crypto-casino-drake-ufc-everton-alfa-romeo-f1-team-2072589

Stunna is a well-respected member of this forum, and if your case is honest then I am confident that he will get it resolved.
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I would suggest archiving(www.archive.is) your bets and posting a screenshot of their E-mail response as well.

Does your ISP provide you with a dynamic IP? it's possible some other user shared your IP address and now they are using it as an excuse to hold your pay.

Gather your evidence, and post it at r/sportsbook as well.

r/sportsbook is a community of hardcore sports bettors, many are whales just like you. I will help your reddit post get some visibility there.

If they stick with their decision after a week, contact their gambling license provider in Curaçao.

Can you login right now? or not?


I can be on my account, but I did not log out of it, because I am afraid that later I will not be able to log into it again. Thank you very much, I made all the archives of my bets and also requested the statistics of my account, if they don’t answer me in the near future, I will do as you advised. No one uses my IP address except me, the account belongs only to me and only I made the bet.
legendary
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"withdrawal stage"? does that mean you can only withdraw from your account? if that is the case why won't they allow you to withdraw the 40K? did they say that the fund is confiscated? or they are the ones who will manually send you the funds?

you should try contacting their forum representative here Stunna and Symphonized or try posting on their thread for more exposure.
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