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Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 08, 2024, 01:10:30 PM

What is the benefit of having them as your referral if they withdraw the funds instantly after receiving the tip? The new users are required to fill the level 1 KYC information to enable the withdrawal on Stake. Although I could be wrong here, but Stake team may apply higher level KYC requirements on your referral if most of them just withdraw the funds after receiving the tip.

This is quite normal when someone try to give small bonus for anyone who is willing to register through a referral link. Free money hunters may try to abuse it by register as referral then they will withdraw once they receive the tip as promised. Of course it will be depending on the amount of the bonus, but free money hunters may do it even if the amount is small and even if they need to do higher level KYC process. For me, offering free money to register as our referral is effective to get number of referrals only but it wont be effective to get referral commission or to get real gamblers as referral.

I don't believe on giving free money for signing up since it cannot attract the real gambler but rather they will just get those free money abusers. But if he could able to give a cash back like for example his referrals will deposit some amount and he give 20% back base on the amount they deposit, then for sure this maybe this one can attract real gamblers since they would think that they can get something from them if they deposit then register under his link. Also for sure those people will sign up under his link would not avoid those KYC process and continue to gamble since they like the casino and what he offers to them.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 08, 2024, 01:10:30 PM

What is the benefit of having them as your referral if they withdraw the funds instantly after receiving the tip? The new users are required to fill the level 1 KYC information to enable the withdrawal on Stake. Although I could be wrong here, but Stake team may apply higher level KYC requirements on your referral if most of them just withdraw the funds after receiving the tip.

This is quite normal when someone try to give small bonus for anyone who is willing to register through a referral link. Free money hunters may try to abuse it by register as referral then they will withdraw once they receive the tip as promised. Of course it will be depending on the amount of the bonus, but free money hunters may do it even if the amount is small and even if they need to do higher level KYC process. For me, offering free money to register as our referral is effective to get number of referrals only but it wont be effective to get referral commission or to get real gamblers as referral.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 08, 2024, 06:29:35 AM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 06, 2024, 12:47:05 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on March 06, 2024, 05:14:25 AM

Does anyone knew if tip on Stake needs to be wager or it can be directly withdrawn once the user receives it? I’m still new to Stake and I’m planning to launch a mini activity on my local group on social media for my recruit. I want to reward them in a form of tip so that they have a choice to withdraw or play and at the same time create an account to Stake.

Usually, there is no wagering requirement on the tip amount. But Stake may block the withdrawal of the tip receiver if you just make a deposit and tip someone else without placing any bets, and then the user tries to withdraw it without placing any bets. They shouldn't face any problem to withdraw the tip instantly if you send it after playing with your deposited funds. Stake has 1× wagering requirement on the deposits.

Thanks for this information, Late to see this but very helpful. I’m planning to play my balance first since my goal is to increase my bankroll to a certain amount then rewards my followers using winning amount once the goal achieved.

I’m just curious how Stake view this activity since most my follower sign up using my affiliate code. I’m wondering if this tip might cause conflict in the future since most the receiver will probably withdraw immediately the tip amount once I sent it.

If you are curious to know what's their view towards certain activities you plan to do then much better if you contact them and try to ask if its fine to do your plans and what is the possible consequences if a user you invite just there for the tip and withdraw the funds immediately. For sure by asking the support you will not speculate more about the consequences and you will get the most accurate answer base on the question you want to ask. But its useless action if your referrals will just sign up just to get the tip and don't have plan to play on stake.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 08, 2024, 06:29:35 AM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 06, 2024, 12:47:05 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on March 06, 2024, 05:14:25 AM

Does anyone knew if tip on Stake needs to be wager or it can be directly withdrawn once the user receives it? I’m still new to Stake and I’m planning to launch a mini activity on my local group on social media for my recruit. I want to reward them in a form of tip so that they have a choice to withdraw or play and at the same time create an account to Stake.

Usually, there is no wagering requirement on the tip amount. But Stake may block the withdrawal of the tip receiver if you just make a deposit and tip someone else without placing any bets, and then the user tries to withdraw it without placing any bets. They shouldn't face any problem to withdraw the tip instantly if you send it after playing with your deposited funds. Stake has 1× wagering requirement on the deposits.

Thanks for this information, Late to see this but very helpful. I’m planning to play my balance first since my goal is to increase my bankroll to a certain amount then rewards my followers using winning amount once the goal achieved.

I’m just curious how Stake view this activity since most my follower sign up using my affiliate code. I’m wondering if this tip might cause conflict in the future since most the receiver will probably withdraw immediately the tip amount once I sent it.

personally i would be very careful. stake will probably view this activity as suspicious and put you through an impossible withdrawal process in order to retrieve your own funds. i have heard from many sources that they do this a lot.

i believe they will view this as “multi accounting” which has very severe penalties.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 08, 2024, 12:16:50 PM

Still have some potential on Monday/Tuesday but the chances are pretty low for this date, due middle of the month is almost the closest for the monthly bonus around (15th).

Don't expect the pre-monthly and post-monthly on every month of the year. It is an additional bonus which may come as surprise occasionally, Eddie has increased our expectations for those bonuses by giving it consecutively in the last few months. Perhaps, we will receive the monthly bonus on the next week (Friday, 15th March).

Quote from: Coin_trader on March 08, 2024, 06:29:35 AM

I’m just curious how Stake view this activity since most my follower sign up using my affiliate code. I’m wondering if this tip might cause conflict in the future since most the receiver will probably withdraw immediately the tip amount once I sent it.

What is the benefit of having them as your referral if they withdraw the funds instantly after receiving the tip? The new users are required to fill the level 1 KYC information to enable the withdrawal on Stake. Although I could be wrong here, but Stake team may apply higher level KYC requirements on your referral if most of them just withdraw the funds after receiving the tip.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 08, 2024, 06:29:35 AM

I’m just curious how Stake view this activity since most my follower sign up using my affiliate code. I’m wondering if this tip might cause conflict in the future since most the receiver will probably withdraw immediately the tip amount once I sent it.

If you are worrying that it will cause a problem later when most of your referrals are withdrawing your tip straight away after they received it, I think you should try to avoid it.
Avoiding them to withdraw it immediately by give them small amount only and choose the coins with the most expensive withdrawal fee so they will think that it does not worth to withdraw it.
Other option is that if you can collect them in something like telegram group, you can offer them internal contest where they need to play but of course you need to spend more money for the prize. I have done this option at other site long time ago.

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Tomorrow, It's Saturday.

I guess we know right now, there will be no (pre/post bonus) for us .com user ~xd I have been waiting for some emails for the past 2 days (my estimation will be on Thursday & Friday) but seems like no email ~xd

Still have some potential on Monday/Tuesday but the chances are pretty low for this date, due middle of the month is almost the closest for the monthly bonus around (15th).

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Quote from: KosherMania on March 07, 2024, 04:42:19 PM

i’m just discussing the unfair operations of stake. isn’t that what this thread is for ?

their customer service and team is very unprofessional.

this thread and website are not advertisements for stake. i’m just communicating with fellow members of the community.

Stake is managed by 2 RuneScape players and a chat moderator, that is why their customer service and team is very unprofessional!

Their alleged "Legal Department" does not tell me who their lawyer is!

I discovered that their in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged, but they ignore!

Proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63734669

Most people here need to place their post to get some cents, so you hardly can have substantial communications here!

For example, I asked the community:

Quote from: BlackyJacky on February 13, 2024, 12:06:09 PM

If you are Bijan and Edward, would you compensate the 30,000 USD I unjustifiably lost at their provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and move on or would you ignore me and risk that you will be held liable one day?

I mean, they generated a 2,6 billion USD Gross Gaming Revenue in 2022, why risk their multi billion USD profit operation for not compensating 30,000 USD they have unjustifiably taken from me?

Is this a good business decision or not, in your opinion?

And not one substantial answer, even though this is a very important theme!

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 06, 2024, 12:47:05 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on March 06, 2024, 05:14:25 AM

Does anyone knew if tip on Stake needs to be wager or it can be directly withdrawn once the user receives it? I’m still new to Stake and I’m planning to launch a mini activity on my local group on social media for my recruit. I want to reward them in a form of tip so that they have a choice to withdraw or play and at the same time create an account to Stake.

Usually, there is no wagering requirement on the tip amount. But Stake may block the withdrawal of the tip receiver if you just make a deposit and tip someone else without placing any bets, and then the user tries to withdraw it without placing any bets. They shouldn't face any problem to withdraw the tip instantly if you send it after playing with your deposited funds. Stake has 1× wagering requirement on the deposits.

Thanks for this information, Late to see this but very helpful. I’m planning to play my balance first since my goal is to increase my bankroll to a certain amount then rewards my followers using winning amount once the goal achieved.

I’m just curious how Stake view this activity since most my follower sign up using my affiliate code. I’m wondering if this tip might cause conflict in the future since most the receiver will probably withdraw immediately the tip amount once I sent it.

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Quote from: KosherMania on March 08, 2024, 01:24:27 AM

for what it’s worth, i was accused of multi accounting and not money laundering. simply a false accusation. thanks for all of the support guys it means a lot to me throughout this situation , but in order to stay on topic and not get in trouble in this thread, i’m going to talk about their horrible customer service!

it’s crazy how incompetent the employees of stake are. it’s like they’re unfamiliar with their own terms of service and they’re extremely rude and condescending at points. the lack of communication between employees is especially poor. they should spend more money on paying competent employees instead of paying forum users to advertise their site in their avatars and signatures. i’m sure it works for them for now, but all good things eventually come to an end.

This is the cons of having a multiple account issue in an online casino. You can’t prove that you really don’t even if you submit ID or other form of KYC when they have proof of connection such as same IP address. The funny part is they ask for the documents then later on doesn’t believe that you are using fake ID of someone to undergo KYC for you.

It’s very hard to solve issue about multiple account and I never saw an issue related to this that resolved properly because casino will just sent the proof on AG then leave the conversation and ignore everything since they think that they do already their part. Sadly no one can verify this here if you are telling the truth or not. But one thing is for that as long as many players is still satisfied with Stake services, I doubt your will gonna be a big deal to everyone.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 08, 2024, 03:37:57 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on March 08, 2024, 12:15:34 AM

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What do u expect, when you need to verify all the data from various country. Also, the department support with verification is different they can't do both that's why is really take a long to solve these case. Meanwhile the (shit-happens) is when the person/user don't have any utility bill under his name and he share these on his thread. These is what I called shite happend, while you get verification and you can provided some document they're ask.

Actually, any site accepts a lot of documents for proof of residency. Normally accepted documents are like bank statements, phone bills and so on. Persisting on a utility bill and even wanting to see a payment slip of that bill (which I have NEVER heard before) is just ridiculous.

And by the way, this is from the stake help site:

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Please note that the compliance team reserves the rights to request any document they might need.

You can use one of the following documents to verify your address:

Utility bill ( electricity, water, gas or rent bill )

Bank or credit card statement (in some cases bank statement cannot be used)

Council tax, municipality bill or government tax letter

An official letter from your employer or educational institution confirming your address stamped and signed

Tenancy agreement

Bank reference letter - A bank reference letter should be just an informative letter with some of your and bank information. This letter should be in English and must meet the following requirements:

Shows full contact of bank

Shows your full name and address

Shows date of account issuing and type of account

Shows date of issuing of the letter

Why even offer all the other options just to reject them and insist on the one option he can't provide. If they would do this to me I would have the same problem because our house is rented by the company my wife is working for.

Still insisting even though he explained it several times and provided all the other options which they mention on their site is just ridiculous.
Stating "Please note that the compliance team reserves the rights to request any document they might need." just opens to door to do whatever they want, which is shady.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on March 08, 2024, 12:15:34 AM

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What do u expect, when you need to verify all the data from various country. Also, the department support with verification is different they can't do both that's why is really take a long to solve these case. Meanwhile the (shit-happens) is when the person/user don't have any utility bill under his name and he share these on his thread. These is what I called shite happend, while you get verification and you cant provided some document they're ask.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on March 08, 2024, 12:32:42 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on March 08, 2024, 12:15:34 AM

Actually this is not a "shit happens" situation, you should take the time and actually read his case here and at askgamblers. Stake is toying with this guy for months now. Always taking forever to reply.
If you would be in his shoes you would be angry as well, this is not a small amount we are talking about. This kind of treatment can happen to anybody, even to you.
Did you ever see what they are asking of him? It's amazing what they are coming up with in their replies.

The main issue here is that so many people tend to dismiss victims of big sites like Stake right away primarily because of their reputation due to which they generally feel that the fault is on the victims side.

Sad to see @KosherMania go through this annoying ordeal though I doubt his problem will ever get fully resolved.

We had a discussion about these complaints before and the conclusion is normally the same. The casino will be relaxed with the requirement of lower level verification, because it requires basic documents that are easy to verify.

When it comes to Level 3 and 4... it becomes more complex and the documents takes much longer to process.

Imagine someone owning a company that are using that company to launder money and you have to detect that, before they use your site to launder their dirty money. (It is just obvious that they will be more strict when we are talking about high amounts)

I am not saying this person are trying to use Stake to launder money, but I understand why Stake is more cautious when we are talking about huge transactions. (I hope he can find a good resolution to his problem, because I can understand his frustration...after reading all his posts)

for what it’s worth, i was accused of multi accounting and not money laundering. simply a false accusation. thanks for all of the support guys it means a lot to me throughout this situation , but in order to stay on topic and not get in trouble in this thread, i’m going to talk about their horrible customer service!

it’s crazy how incompetent the employees of stake are. it’s like they’re unfamiliar with their own terms of service and they’re extremely rude and condescending at points. the lack of communication between employees is especially poor. they should spend more money on paying competent employees instead of paying forum users to advertise their site in their avatars and signatures. i’m sure it works for them for now, but all good things eventually come to an end.

does anyone know how much stake pays their customer service reps to do their jobs? i think i could do very well working for their customer service and will excel above the rest! however, i don’t know if my moral compass will allow me.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on March 08, 2024, 12:32:42 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on March 08, 2024, 12:15:34 AM

Actually this is not a "shit happens" situation, you should take the time and actually read his case here and at askgamblers. Stake is toying with this guy for months now. Always taking forever to reply.
If you would be in his shoes you would be angry as well, this is not a small amount we are talking about. This kind of treatment can happen to anybody, even to you.
Did you ever see what they are asking of him? It's amazing what they are coming up with in their replies.

The main issue here is that so many people tend to dismiss victims of big sites like Stake right away primarily because of their reputation due to which they generally feel that the fault is on the victims side.

Sad to see @KosherMania go through this annoying ordeal though I doubt his problem will ever get fully resolved.

We had a discussion about these complaints before and the conclusion is normally the same. The casino will be relaxed with the requirement of lower level verification, because it requires basic documents that are easy to verify.

When it comes to Level 3 and 4... it becomes more complex and the documents takes much longer to process.

Imagine someone owning a company that are using that company to launder money and you have to detect that, before they use your site to launder their dirty money. (It is just obvious that they will be more strict when we are talking about high amounts)

I am not saying this person are trying to use Stake to launder money, but I understand why Stake is more cautious when we are talking about huge transactions. (I hope he can find a good resolution to his problem, because I can understand his frustration...after reading all his posts)

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on March 08, 2024, 12:15:34 AM

Actually this is not a "shit happens" situation, you should take the time and actually read his case here and at askgamblers. Stake is toying with this guy for months now. Always taking forever to reply.
If you would be in his shoes you would be angry as well, this is not a small amount we are talking about. This kind of treatment can happen to anybody, even to you.
Did you ever see what they are asking of him? It's amazing what they are coming up with in their replies.

The main issue here is that so many people tend to dismiss victims of big sites like Stake right away primarily because of their reputation due to which they generally feel that the fault is on the victims side.

Sad to see @KosherMania go through this annoying ordeal though I doubt his problem will ever get fully resolved.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 07, 2024, 03:10:34 PM

Quote from: KosherMania on March 07, 2024, 02:48:56 PM

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Nope, basically your fund is being held. Because you are not finished the verification, and until that your fund on there is being held based on the thread case you have some issue with the document they're requested and you cannot provided these. So, from my perspective (shit happend) while you got these and cannot following the term & condition process request by them.

Not all in here wearing (Stake) signature, which means they're not getting paid by stake. Many of us already have experience withdraw even without (KYC), you have been request by the team because getting flag from your activity.

Actually this is not a "shit happens" situation, you should take the time and actually read his case here and at askgamblers. Stake is toying with this guy for months now. Always taking forever to reply.
If you would be in his shoes you would be angry as well, this is not a small amount we are talking about. This kind of treatment can happen to anybody, even to you.
Did you ever see what they are asking of him? It's amazing what they are coming up with in their replies.

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Quote from: xLays on March 07, 2024, 03:49:46 PM

Quote from: KosherMania on March 07, 2024, 02:48:56 PM

just a warning to any unknowing users browsing this thread, do NOT use stake. their withdrawals are impossible and they will deny every document you send them. lots of people posting here supporting stake are paid by stake to do so.

Hopefully your BitcoinTalk account won't get any negative trust rating from DT. You're making accusation here without any evidence. I see some BitcoinTalk user getting tagged by DT because of like what you're doing right now. Anyway if you have problem with stake.com you can post your concern in their own forum (https://stakecommunity.com/) or if stake.com scammed you can make an scam accusations here in BitcoinTalk. Just go to this section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

i’m just discussing the unfair operations of stake. isn’t that what this thread is for ?

their customer service and team is very unprofessional.

this thread and website are not advertisements for stake. i’m just communicating with fellow members of the community.

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Quote from: KosherMania on March 07, 2024, 02:48:56 PM

just a warning to any unknowing users browsing this thread, do NOT use stake. their withdrawals are impossible and they will deny every document you send them. lots of people posting here supporting stake are paid by stake to do so.

Hopefully your BitcoinTalk account won't get any negative trust rating from DT. You're making accusation here without any evidence. I see some BitcoinTalk user getting tagged by DT because of like what you're doing right now. Anyway if you have problem with stake.com you can post your concern in their own forum (https://stakecommunity.com/) or if stake.com scammed you can make an scam accusations here in BitcoinTalk. Just go to this section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

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Quote from: KosherMania on March 07, 2024, 02:48:56 PM

just a warning to any unknowing users browsing this thread, do NOT use stake. their withdrawals are impossible and they will deny every document you send them. lots of people posting here supporting stake are paid by stake to do so.

I sure am paid by them in the signature but I have verified my email,phone number and proof of address and any withdraw I make goes on instantly.I am not talking about signature money only,sometimes I deposit my own and sometimes I have even got lucky and have won over x11.000 in Return of the Green Knight slot machine so I have withdrawn even 1000 dollars and the withdrawal was processed instantly.

I assume that they need to verify withdrawals of huge amounts although I have heard as long as you are verified they will process 99.99% of your cashouts instantly,that is an honest review about what have happened to me there and has nothing to do that I am writing this because of the signature.I could have opted to not post this and still would be paid the same by them.

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