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I had the same problem with Payoneer. They couldn't understand that in a country where I live, things work differently and I am not able to provide any utility bill because it's paid by the one who owns the house, only house owner's name is written on it, mine can't be, even if I rent the house, my name can't be written on it because house owner can rent house without any document or paper agreement.

You can see the recent bonus cuts are in full effect on the recent christmas promotion as well.

The stream was already much worse than last year ( smaller bonus buys and kind of less drops ) and especially the last drop was a full scam, haha.
Eddie didn't change the nonce so the result of picking the drop was the same as the last regular drop ( which was the 2nd lowest outcome ).


All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$. Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

Now to the telegram drops. Last year every drop for the xmas promo had 5000 claims with 5$ and different wager, maybe starting at 8-10k. Now there are only 2000 drops for 5$ with much higher wager. And since the drop amount is so low they are gone within 20 seconds yet again , well done stake.

Very disappointing work by the marketing team yet again.

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They only handle extreme cases here with solid proof and the rest is through the casino live support.

Your case is really hard to win because you are just using stats on the result while your decision making is crucial on the result of Blackjack game unlike other games with just a 50% chance game with win/lose result only. On Blackjack, Your card hit can change the outcome of the game.

Are they even here on Bitcointalk anymore?

Their alleged "Legal Department" fixes all issues now, or what?

All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$.

Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

The Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and not provably fair!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

Seriously?
You think that stake made less money this year?
You do know that they are still growing rapidly every month ( you can see that on the weekly wager/tickets for the raffle on stream) .
Also, they cut bonus and all the perks like crazy this year, 50-75%, so from this they also made much more money than last year. So yes, people can expect at least a good xmas promo.

This post in the forum compared this year and last year's xmas until now quite well:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/04/NcenI.png

That's 374k in promo money in 2022 compared to 80k this year. Pretty weak for a self proclaimed biggest crypto casino with the "best promotions".

Well, one thing I think most of us fail to understand most of the time is that, one thing constant in life is change, I am not a very active customer of Stake but I've never seen or read in a place they said that the bonus amount will always be the same year after year, or month after month, or week after week.

If the company did not make as much profit as they made the last time bonus was substantial, you don't expect them to run the casino at a loss all because they want to pay customers the same amount of bonus they paid them the last time.

Anyways, I am not defending stake though, this is just my thought or what I think rather.

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You can see the recent bonus cuts are in full effect on the recent christmas promotion as well.

The stream was already much worse than last year ( smaller bonus buys and kind of less drops ) and especially the last drop was a full scam, haha.
Eddie didn't change the nonce so the result of picking the drop was the same as the last regular drop ( which was the 2nd lowest outcome ).


All the people in the chat told him, he didn't care and said the outcome is different, even though claims and wager requirement was exactly the same result. So the amount was also the same falling on 13$ of possible 30$, which is basically the same as the previous 3$ of possible 9$. Very frustrating dealing with a person who just doesn't care and can't admit his own mistake.

Now to the telegram drops. Last year every drop for the xmas promo had 5000 claims with 5$ and different wager, maybe starting at 8-10k. Now there are only 2000 drops for 5$ with much higher wager. And since the drop amount is so low they are gone within 20 seconds yet again , well done stake.

Very disappointing work by the marketing team yet again.

I have already stated that I do not have a utility bill. they kept asking for utility bill. so i sent them a utility bill of my address. i have already provided 3 documents prior regard to proof of address.


also is not the reason why my 6 selfies are denied. i have explained they are all clear. you must work for stake?

all users beware stake pays many shills to vouch for their scam. they will steal your money.

i have been very polite and have provided all documents. they have given me level 2 after 7 selfies. if you were in my position you would be on site doing the same thing. you are fortunately to not be in this situation. i don’t know what else to call them other than scam site. i have sent 7 nearly identical selfies and they finally verify. they ask for passport which i do not have. i ask every support email and live chat what to do without passport. no one respond. they keep asking for passport. i tell everyone for hours no passport, they tell me to send id again, so i do. then the verify asks for passport. then i say to all support no passport. they tell me after 2 day to send id. i send id, the very ask for passport again. i go to live chat explain no passport. they tell me ID is ok, send id. so i send id. very tells me passport again.

this  situation happen 7 times. do you want me to explain rest of situation? it is very confusing. make no sense to me. i am just here to warn people of scam.

@Mahdirakib that’s an risky strategy but you did have a slow but steady start however all newbie gamblers should avoid it unless they’re absolutely sure of the risks and have surplus funds to spare. Lastly getting KYC verified can be an cumbersome process but none of the forum members can help make it quicker for you hence my suggestion is work in the background with Stake official staff and patiently wait till it’s resolved.

Yep, I tried your all-in strategy. I was lucky to turn the $7 bonus into $33, then I lost it through an all-in on 2× payout.

Stake isn't scamming you, but asking for the proper documents which can be accepted and verified for those steps of KYC verification. They have accepted your selfie verification after so many unsuccessful attempts. It means, they will accept your source of funds and proof of address documents if you submit the requested documents in the appropriate way. I know you are frustrated after so many unsuccessful attempts, but keep trying .

Trying to test my style with free-money huh? ~XD
Any luck for trying these?

everyone pay close attention 3 stake avatars come against me  because i tell truth about them doing scam against me. i told you i keep comply with all requests.

everyone pay close attention 3 stake avatars come against me  because i tell truth about them doing scam against me. i told you i keep comply with all requests.

i try for weeks and only progress i have made with team treating me with respect is after i show shill army on here SEVEN SELFIES LATER (7)