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Frankly speaking I was one of those who lose VIP host because of the updated terms. I got my VIP host when I reached Platinum 1 few years back but I had to lose it due to the change of the requirement. I did not complain it because I did not really get the "extra" benefits of having VIP host at that time. It was just like a better live customer support, maybe because I had it for short period of time only so I could not really feel the benefits of having VIP host. However, so there is a new rule to keep the VIP host by wagering?

Finally some wise words I am reading about this topic. What you wrote is 100% on point.
What else they could do is announce changes, whatever they are, not just make them and let the players find out about it later. Normally if you change the terms players should be informed and need to accept the new ones. Not just change it and then say "but it's written in the terms". People, if only, read the terms when they register, not every week.
Changing them behind closed doors is a little bit without any info is a bit off. Other sites inform you when they do something like that, stake does not.

There should be no reason for you to lose it, if you take a portion of that and you wager it. I am taking my full bonus and I am wagering that and also some of my own money to reach the next VIP level.

So in theory.... if you reach a high enough level, you can wager say 50% of the bonus and then use 50% as a weekly and a monthly reward for yourself as passive income. (Most people do not have the discipline to do that... they just gamble the whole amount)

I calculated.... that if I just use the weekly & monthly bonuses, then I can level up to the next level in 3 years.... but if I bump it with my own money.. then I can do it in 1 year 6 months.  

The points are not only from a money perspective, but the service they provided gets change too. He does not speak about only the bonus, but also the service they're offering to the player (If you check on the VIP zone) there is no single word or information about you can lose the VIP. They not only change the term from bonus but also the service they provided while we already got that by grinding. I know the term & conditions is always can change (that's sucks) but at least the change should happen at least for the new player, long time ago VIP is Platinum 1 and now IV (also now you can lose VIP-host because you're not wagered)? at least they give that information on the information table in VIP-zone.

I do not think that's harsh, first of all people who lost that much got more while they lost it, secondly if they already got what they deserved for what they did "once upon a time" why would they keep getting money from them?

I mean you got it right, it is not okay to ask for them to pay you forever that never makes sense and if you think that people weren't fairly compensated then maybe we can discuss what they could have gotten when they wagered 50k, that would make sense because if you want more while you are losing that I can understand. But they shouldn't ask for more after they stopped playing. Why would stake keep paying to an inactive account that hasn't gambled, that makes no sense to me at all, they should keep it at zero if you ask me.

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Yeah we can speculate anything but we have to wait until the anniversary, as users who do nothing of course we do not expect more but for those who have prepared themselves definitely expect something. I personally believe Stake will provide something because of the special month, it would be weird if on a normal day they gave us pre/post monthly whereas on special days not. Recently I heard in some local group there will be post-monthly but don't know if the source is valid or not but if this is true then it is part of the welcoming celebration IMO. Who knows, the lost budget will be used for celebrations 

Last year, but this year?

I guess not, even on a normal day without any important things people think receive less. I must agree on @Panjull don't hoping to much in these years because we all know a change happening.

I think is not gonna get any bonus at all.

This isn't a new issue at Stake. It was pointed out by a different user in the Bitcointalk forum on the October month of 2021. His VIP host benefits had been taken away in the same way like yours (see here). We (some forum members) were talking about that, and Stunna tried to clarify the situation here

What we hope for the most is to get 2x monthly bonus in the 1st-2nd week and if they give daily drops then we can use monthly bonuses to increase the wager
Basically, birthday celebrations should be more special than other celebrations but yeah we can't be sure what events they will prepare let's just wait.
I personally wait for events like this because I can increase my VIP without having to deposit first even if I have to deposit at least I get an additional balance
In addition, my monthly bonus usually increases by 2x more than usual in the following month.

I will not hope too much for the upcoming Stake's 6th birthday, maybe there will be huge race as usual which is suitable for high rollers only.
Maybe there will be some daily drop codes in their telegram channel like what they did last year and maybe we will get early monthly bonus in August which will be labeled as "Birthday Bonus".
The other possible celebration is bigger raffle but for sure high rollers will be those who get more benefits in the birthday celebration.

Unfortunately that's only half the truth. The increased rewards for the VIP level are only on paper now, but not in reality.

I know that you can't expect the casino to pay you forever. But a weekly of 0.08$ or less for inactive accounts that maybe lost 50k and more lifetime is a bit harsh. Worst this is the promise of the VIP hosts.
The reloads that come with a host were promised to be permanent. Several people pointed that out here. I also saw that writing on the stake site.

With my first stake account I got my host at platinum 1, till had it at platinum 2 but then got limited and abandoned this account. 2 months later the VIP host, the reloads, the VIP group bonus, it all was gone and he told me if I wager around 50k again I might get him back. Later when I messaged him and saif if this is still on, he said, nah you have to wait until platinum 3 (now platinum 4) to get these benefits again. So what he said first, I can get him back, was also a lie.

That's how they treat their customers, telling stories to make you wager, and when it comes to pay up, suddenly eveything has changed.

Well, you cannot expect Stake to keep on paying for inactivity? Yes, people wagered a lot of money to reach a specific level, but they must still wager some money to get those rewards... it is a casino after all.

The ranking system is not some kind of investment scheme, where you deposit money into it (wagering) and then you get passive income for doing nothing for the rest of your life.

The VIP ranking system will increase your rewards, but you still have to gamble to receive it. 

According to the forum stake.us got it's post monthly today. But that doesn't need to mean anything since they always have totally different dates for everything.

I think there can be a post monthly, most likely tomorrow. The time window for today has already passed, normally it's around 10/11am Japanese time, which was 1-2 hours ago.

Don't expect too much from the stake birthday, every promo these days is pretty underwhelming . But maybe they find a way to surprise us, who knows.

Didn't know it would be Stakes birthday month but I think the chances are pretty high it will be some races with big money involvement and a lot of bonus drops. I hope they would do some nice sports betting promotions like triple winnings or stuff like that, but I doubt that will happen.

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Rumors are post-monthly this week, let's see what Eddie has prepared for us this month. There are more exciting events waiting for us during Stake birthday month as well, it should happen after 8th August when it is Stake anniversary date. I hope it is not going to be a boring race event or small bonus drops on Telegram or Twitter accounts, let's see what happens. Best of luck all!

Okay, this is something new for me.

I don't know, your account can get a drop from the VIP Host. If we don't have any activity at all, first time to see these cases. I tough the VIP Hosts are forever because we don't see any information or rules you can get a drop-by VIP Host (If you don't have any activity at all, we only know to reach specific VIP and get the benefits).

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They will be back, but take a few years. Stake right now gambling on "Kicks", If you check on (Wikipedia) the Kicks streaming platform is backed by (Stake) and they are getting recognized by burn-money promotion in the last few months. Make a private deal with a famous streamer (I believe more than 100 Million USD deal or even more has been signed with a streamer).

Kicks it's really young (not even 1 year) so there is no big revenue at all from the platform but they can make a private deal with streamer to move on from Twitch. Where does the money from? off course from (Stake) budget and gambling they promote Stake more and more on (Kicks).

Yes, it depends on us seeing how the results are obtained when looking at things like RTP, in the end we play with our own decisions. Playing on slot games with high RTP is not wrong, but playing on games with low RTP is also not wrong at all. In the end I also see many people who only play on their own favorite games without seeing anything that many others see.
Spreading the chances of winning by looking at the high RTP is fine, as long as we don't then blame the RTP for being a scam for example because we still lose, because we also have to realize that luck plays a role here.

Everything about slot games very much boils down to luck, whether the RTP be high or low, luck still plays the highest and most important role, playing a slot game with high RTP only means that you stand a better, maybe a very slightly higher chance of winning compared to the slot game with low RTP, but if you do the math and calculations, you will discover that the difference is not always very significant, this is why its still very possible to play a slot game with high RTP and end up not even winning anything at the end of the end, and just on trying out your hands on another slot game with low RTP, you win, it just simply means luck was not on your side the day you play the game with high RTP but had better luck the day you played the one with low RTP.

But still though, i go with what o48o said, it will be absolutely great and very convenient to be able to group or arrange slot games based on their RTP level, like from highest to bottom or from bottom to highest(by bottom, i mean lowest), if you ever wanted to chose a game by this, you will discover that most of the time, its very much time consuming, so if the casino can help arrange this in order that gambler who are interested in choosing a game to play by this standard will just set it by turning a switch or button on or off, it will be very much time saving.