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legendary
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I'm also one of those who doesn't like to submit KYC for receiving additional bonuses. Stake is allowing me to withdraw a few thousand dollars without the KYC verification requirement. Where most other casinos apply the KYC verification on smaller withdrawal. I had to verify my identity on two different casinos for a small withdrawal. However, Stake has made the KYC verification mandatory for the new users. We are having the benefits to stay anonymous as an old user of Stake.
It is temporary, just win something big on Stake and do a withdrawal request they will hit you on KYC as other users have experienced.
Since last Christmas they made big changes on terms and conditions, now new users are asked to fill in KYC information to be able to register on the website, IIRC.
legendary
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I'm also one of those who doesn't like to submit KYC for receiving additional bonuses. Stake is allowing me to withdraw a few thousand dollars without the KYC verification requirement. Where most other casinos apply the KYC verification on smaller withdrawal. I had to verify my identity on two different casinos for a small withdrawal. However, Stake has made the KYC verification mandatory for the new users. We are having the benefits to stay anonymous as an old user of Stake.
legendary
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Do you understand what kind of workload it would be to KYC everyone who wants to try the casino, they KYC if they suspect something or if you are high stake player. To me it sounds like you haven't read their ToS. Have you got proof of "them" promoting VPN usage?

What i am getting from your message is that you managed to fool them and when you got caught you think you have legal grounds for your account? Just because they didn't immediately notice it that you weren't being honest.

Btw your lawyer doesn't sound like a competent one. This case would be laughed out from any court. I would ask around for opinions from actual lawyers.
legendary
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I believe people don't mind sharing KYC.

The problem for "KYC" are on Type 3 or Type 4 for people who are living in a third country. I also the one who are not really want to put "KYC", why? I only small gambler and chasing bonus from KYC ? nope thanks.

That's why, I chasing a casino who can withdraw with a high limit.
hero member
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Glad to see there's a new slot game on Stake. And this adds to the excitement of playing the slots. But be careful when playing slots because we have to avoid big losses.

Here is a list of new slot games in Stake:


From the lists above, it seems that no slot games from Pragmatic Play providers were added, but there are slot games from Play'N GO, Red Tiger, and Spinomenal. Besides that, I've never played on other providers, making me want to try it later. What do you want to play from the latest list in the Stake?
legendary
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Well, for your information, stake is not the only casino that does not necessarily ask users for kyc verification before the user is allowed to deposit and play, majorly every online casino on this forum only ask kyc from user when the user is withdrawing an amount of money that is over the limit to an amount they accept for non kyced users.

I think you have not heard the update, afaik KYC is now mandatory for new accounts. They started to implement it since last year if I remember it correctly. I've heard this information from new players especially new players who are from the same country as me. For old users, it is still not mandatory as old users are  offered to do KYC for extra bonuses. For now, whenever there is a question related to KYC then we have 2 different answers. 1st is that it is not mandatory for old players and 2nd is that it is mandatory for new players. However, it is correct that casino reserve the right to ask KYC especially if it is clearly mentioned in their ToS.
Even for the old players the terms and conditions were updated. In that it is clearly mentioned Stake have got all rights to request KYC when required. So, even for the old players there'll be KYC check when something found wrong with their activities. While getting into Stake, even the old players get to see the terms and conditions which needs to be agreed to enter the platform.

This is commonly happen on any casino so players should expect that this request might came to them since this one is really needed especially if they won a huge amount of money or even trying to withdraw some funds on suspicious manner. Instead thinking about negative on KYC asked maybe its better to take it as positive side since it means that no one can withdraw our funds especially a huge amount if there's no KYC provided. Also sometimes that's why its important to read the TOS especially when you are not reading it for long time so that we will get updated to lates rules added.
Well, you are right, aside for the fact that some scam casinos end up selling those identification documents to fellow scammers and hackers on dark web, I personally have never objected the demand for kyc verification from businesses, I do not see any negative side to it as long as the platform we are submitting the document to is one that can be trusted to never use the documents for other illegal or selfish purposes for their personal profit, I have passed kyc verification right from when I signed up on stake, I verified my account even before I deposited and wagered my first dollar, so I have no fear for the future, whether they demand kyc from old users, I sure know they later wil.
hero member
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This is what has happened in this instance and why i have demanded the money be returned so its accounted for.
You knew that Stake doesn't allow players from Australia. So, did you sign up on their platform? Let's say Eddie used a VPN and was encouraged to use VPN so you tried their platform from a restricted area. Would you have come here if you had won instead of lost? I am sure you wouldn't be here, and you would silently take the money and run away. What you are trying to do doesn't make sense to anybody except for you and your lawyer (You know why he agrees with you, He wants money).

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Well, for your information, stake is not the only casino that does not necessarily ask users for kyc verification before the user is allowed to deposit and play, majorly every online casino on this forum only ask kyc from user when the user is withdrawing an amount of money that is over the limit to an amount they accept for non kyced users.

I think you have not heard the update, afaik KYC is now mandatory for new accounts. They started to implement it since last year if I remember it correctly. I've heard this information from new players especially new players who are from the same country as me. For old users, it is still not mandatory as old users are  offered to do KYC for extra bonuses. For now, whenever there is a question related to KYC then we have 2 different answers. 1st is that it is not mandatory for old players and 2nd is that it is mandatory for new players. However, it is correct that casino reserve the right to ask KYC especially if it is clearly mentioned in their ToS.
Even for the old players the terms and conditions were updated. In that it is clearly mentioned Stake have got all rights to request KYC when required. So, even for the old players there'll be KYC check when something found wrong with their activities. While getting into Stake, even the old players get to see the terms and conditions which needs to be agreed to enter the platform.

This is commonly happen on any casino so players should expect that this request might came to them since this one is really needed especially if they won a huge amount of money or even trying to withdraw some funds on suspicious manner. Instead thinking about negative on KYC asked maybe its better to take it as positive side since it means that no one can withdraw our funds especially a huge amount if there's no KYC provided. Also sometimes that's why its important to read the TOS especially when you are not reading it for long time so that we will get updated to lates rules added.
legendary
Activity: 2394
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Well, for your information, stake is not the only casino that does not necessarily ask users for kyc verification before the user is allowed to deposit and play, majorly every online casino on this forum only ask kyc from user when the user is withdrawing an amount of money that is over the limit to an amount they accept for non kyced users.

I think you have not heard the update, afaik KYC is now mandatory for new accounts. They started to implement it since last year if I remember it correctly. I've heard this information from new players especially new players who are from the same country as me. For old users, it is still not mandatory as old users are  offered to do KYC for extra bonuses. For now, whenever there is a question related to KYC then we have 2 different answers. 1st is that it is not mandatory for old players and 2nd is that it is mandatory for new players. However, it is correct that casino reserve the right to ask KYC especially if it is clearly mentioned in their ToS.
Yeah, I do know that the recent update to stakes terms and conditions stated that kyc verification have become mandatory for new account, my response to the user, (that is the part you highlighted) was based on stakes former state(kyc wise) before the teams and conditions was updated.

And besides, stake asking old users to kyc for extra bonus, what exactly does this imply.?
Does it mean that old users won't be mandated by the casino to pass kyc verification if the user does not willingly do it?
legendary
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Okay guys i have decided i am going to take legal action against Eddie and stake. My messages to try resolve the issue get ignored by them. So ill keep everyone updated with the legal proceedings and make sure it gets some media coverage. I hope it will set a precedent for others to come out and sue stake for accepting bets illegally without verification. It's too much money for me just to sit here like an idiot and not take action. I'm very confident having got legal advice I will be successful. This will turn out to be a much larger problem for stake in the long run.
Think this is where this user started this topic on this announcement thread. But they have instated a solution due to this users messages yesterday.

Well, for your information, stake is not the only casino that does not necessarily ask users for kyc verification before the user is allowed to deposit and play, majorly every online casino on this forum only ask kyc from user when the user is withdrawing an amount of money that is over the limit to an amount they accept for non kyced users.
I think you have not heard the update, afaik KYC is now mandatory for new accounts. They started to implement it since last year if I remember it correctly. I've heard this information from new players especially new players who are from the same country as me. For old users, it is still not mandatory as old users are  offered to do KYC for extra bonuses. For now, whenever there is a question related to KYC then we have 2 different answers. 1st is that it is not mandatory for old players and 2nd is that it is mandatory for new players. However, it is correct that casino reserve the right to ask KYC especially if it is clearly mentioned in their ToS.
This is what I am referring to in my reply to this user's post above which I quoted.
There was a rather long message while logging into the site which listed all the rules & regulations you had to follow before going onto the site while you are signed in now.
The whole message was in legal terms and in point form, was definitely written by a lawyer the way it looked.
So to protect themselves from any accusations and cover themselves in court if the user who logs into the site now does not comply with these rules inregards to VPN usage and AML agreement as well.
Inorder to continue using the site you have to click on the Agree to the terms button or you could not continue on into logging into your account.
It had to be from this users messages because it wasn't such an issue that they had to put it in writing and had you read through it and click on agree before all this.
legendary
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Well, for your information, stake is not the only casino that does not necessarily ask users for kyc verification before the user is allowed to deposit and play, majorly every online casino on this forum only ask kyc from user when the user is withdrawing an amount of money that is over the limit to an amount they accept for non kyced users.

I think you have not heard the update, afaik KYC is now mandatory for new accounts. They started to implement it since last year if I remember it correctly. I've heard this information from new players especially new players who are from the same country as me. For old users, it is still not mandatory as old users are  offered to do KYC for extra bonuses. For now, whenever there is a question related to KYC then we have 2 different answers. 1st is that it is not mandatory for old players and 2nd is that it is mandatory for new players. However, it is correct that casino reserve the right to ask KYC especially if it is clearly mentioned in their ToS.
Even for the old players the terms and conditions were updated. In that it is clearly mentioned Stake have got all rights to request KYC when required. So, even for the old players there'll be KYC check when something found wrong with their activities. While getting into Stake, even the old players get to see the terms and conditions which needs to be agreed to enter the platform.
legendary
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Well, for your information, stake is not the only casino that does not necessarily ask users for kyc verification before the user is allowed to deposit and play, majorly every online casino on this forum only ask kyc from user when the user is withdrawing an amount of money that is over the limit to an amount they accept for non kyced users.

I think you have not heard the update, afaik KYC is now mandatory for new accounts. They started to implement it since last year if I remember it correctly. I've heard this information from new players especially new players who are from the same country as me. For old users, it is still not mandatory as old users are  offered to do KYC for extra bonuses. For now, whenever there is a question related to KYC then we have 2 different answers. 1st is that it is not mandatory for old players and 2nd is that it is mandatory for new players. However, it is correct that casino reserve the right to ask KYC especially if it is clearly mentioned in their ToS.
legendary
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If i had not have seen Eddie playing on stake from Australia and promoting VPN usage as legal in unlicensed regions, i would not have been betting on stake. You can draw whatever conclusions you want. But for someone who apparently was putting me on ignore days ago... man you are invested! Walk out side and breath some fresh air....

Ok, so you would have not made these bets on stake? So which site would you then blame today?
Seeing how successful you are making your bets you would have lost it at any other site then.

All your replies make 0 sense. You are lying to yourself. You know which people also lie to the selfes? Addicts!
You can't admit you have a gambling problem and now your only way out is this plot.

Won't work. Good bye, and go get some real help, you need it.

Usually those who bash people and say they have gambling problems are the ones who have gambling problems themselves. Just saying. You know nothing about me and you are extremely judgmental. You're obviously just very bored.

If you read my complaint, you would know the reason this is so important to me is because the government in Australia is asking where these ''Assets'' have gone. So I either have to retrieve them as they have been illegally obtained by stake or if they don't voluntarily give them back which clearly isn't going to happen, i am lodging the legal action in an Australian court against them and the owners of stake as they have obtained property they aren't legally licensed to acquire by having insufficient verification measures, as well as showing negligence in regards to promoting VPN usage.. With all the evidence i have i can guarantee you i am going to be successful. About 95% sure. Using other precedent cases. When the government then realizes what stake is allowing to happen.... then that's going to create much bigger problems.. since there founding business is run out of Melbourne, Australia.

It's okay, i won't change your mind till I'm successful and even then, you will change your name and go by another alias and still bag me.
You know, internet anonymity, it's a beast, folks. You've got hotshot players and total newbies hiding behind screen names. Just like a poker game, you need to see the whites of their eyes for a real 'tell'! Now, you've got yourself a legal showdown, my friend! From where I'm sitting, you're not just looking at a simple spat, but a potential game-changer in the rulebook. High-stakes stuff, believe me! You look confident with your cards, but remember, in the courtroom or at the poker table, luck plays its part.

Want a tip? Make sure your lawyer's got his act together, sharp as a royal flush. 'Cause you're not just playing for some lost money. You might set a legal benchmark that'll echo in the e-gaming universe! And keep in mind, you win this lawsuit, and you're still going to be known as "lawsuit guy" on the message boards. Just a heads-up, the web has a long memory!

As my lawyer has said the lynchpin of the case will be the illegality of the bets as well as the negligence shown from a verification standpoint and by the owner in promoting VPN usage from an unlicensed jurisdiction. But ultimately the illegality of the issue is the lynchpin and why I will be successful from a legal standpoint.

It is illegal for stake to profit from any jurisdiction it is not licensed to profit from and this is why they should have mandatory KYC verification processes. Which they did not have. Therefore stake have not done everything in their power to assure illegal gambling cannot take place. It's not hard to verify a customer before accepting bets so there is no argument to the contrary. My lawyer has advised they will probably try scare me with a counter defamation case which I am prepared for anyway. I know how this caper works in the court room.
Well, for your information, stake is not the only casino that does not necessarily ask users for kyc verification before the user is allowed to deposit and play, majorly every online casino on this forum only ask kyc from user when the user is withdrawing an amount of money that is over the limit to an amount they accept for non kyced users.

Since I started playing on online casinos from this forum, I've only come across one casino where you are required to submit your kyc verification documents immediately after submitting the registration form and confirming your email address, can't really remember the name of the casino right now, but all the same, majorly every casino do not request kyc verification immediately after registration.
legendary
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Does anybody know what the actual changes are? They just write they updated it but it's hard to tell what is different compared to the previous version.
At some sites they point out what has been changed but I didn't really see it here.

Any hint would be highly appreciated!

Not really sure what are the current changes, I'm curious about it as well. I tried to find their terms page before update but I cant find the full page of it. There is one archive for it that was made a year ago https://archive.is/7WpO6 but I cant see the whole terms. If we compared to the current one with the one in the archived page, yes there is a big difference but I have no idea when was the last update before the latest update. Maybe it would be nice if Stake inform all their players about the detail part of all the updates on their terms.
Well, I also fall in the same category, I saw the new terms, I scrolled through it to try to find what's changed, expecting that the new parts of the terms and conditions will be highlighted for easy reference, just for the sake of those who are in a hurry and might not have the time to read everything beginning from afresh again, but unfortunately, stake didn't distinguish the new added terms from the old, so probably, they want all theirs to read the whole terms begining from the first line to the last line again, I believe this is actually good, it's just that this days, we all tend to live a fast life on the internet, majority don't have any time to spare reading long text, 😂 funny but disappointing.
legendary
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Bring the juice @Kakmakr

Let's see he can bring to the court, we seeing to much people in internet are saying "I'm gonna to bring into the court" and never happened Sad most of these VPN stuff are sometimes is from "Influencer" while they're promoted the site.

Just want to chasing the bonus from referral reward, however all user should be can confirm with the support. It's Live-Chatting and Free to use.
legendary
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Would it have something to do with the fact he is from Australia and using it himself with a VPN? Practice what you preach perhaps? There are multi streams where Eddie says using a VPN to access stake is legal on his streams, and streamers he pays like classybeef would promote the same thing. So you can sit there saying that but its actually false.

Well, I watch Eddie's stream every week..  and I have never seen him encouraging people to use a VPN... do you have proof of that? (Clipped video)? Yes, he is the co-owner of the site, so he can do whatever he wants with the VPN to access his site.... so it will be interesting to see how this is going to play out. (Get the popcorn guys)

The money that Stake are printing at the moment, will pay for very expensive lawyers ...so if this is going to court, then it is going to be a long drawn out court case. Those lawyers will use your posts on this forum to prove that you knew that it was illegal for you to access Stake.com ..but you still did it... and now you want to use that to get money back that you lost.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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But, I don't interested for put KYC.

For what ? chasing bonus a few bucks ? nope mate. I would be happy to put my 'KYC' in-case big win and they ask me to be verified, however based on my experience i have some experience withdraw 10K$ without need KYC.

So, my old account has benefits without KYC.
hero member
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If i had not have seen Eddie playing on stake from Australia and promoting VPN usage as legal in unlicensed regions, i would not have been betting on stake. You can draw whatever conclusions you want. But for someone who apparently was putting me on ignore days ago... man you are invested! Walk out side and breath some fresh air....

Ok, so you would have not made these bets on stake? So which site would you then blame today?
Seeing how successful you are making your bets you would have lost it at any other site then.

All your replies make 0 sense. You are lying to yourself. You know which people also lie to the selfes? Addicts!
You can't admit you have a gambling problem and now your only way out is this plot.

Won't work. Good bye, and go get some real help, you need it.
hero member
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You know what's funny, i already have and they don't reply lol.
Just an advice to you.

First, you don't have to post many times consecutively if you're going to reply to other members post on this thread or with any thread. You can post and reply to all of them all at once with just one post.

And if they're not replying, it's either they see that it doesn't make sense to notice you as you're derailing their thread. Or they've already noticed you and they're just waiting for the right time to respond all of those accusations you've brought them. I have to back read where you're pulling all of this against them.
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