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Quote from: RealMalatesta on April 28, 2023, 01:22:32 AM

whenever you gamble at a place that provides that much fun, it is important to remember that the earning part is only secondary to fun part. I personally have a lot of fun when gambling at Stake, that is the number one thing that I do and I believe that it will keep going for a long time as well, I do not think that it will change anytime soon.

I know that it is going to take a while for me to personally get better financially after the gambling is over because I will most probably lose money, but I do not bet too much so I should be fine and I have that much fun anyway. So when you are gambling, always aim at that level, always make sure that you end up gambling the way you always wanted to gamble and that's fine.

This is such an important piece of advice that everyone should be looking at for sure, without a doubt. We are talking about a big part of gambling which is fun, and too many people gamble without having fun and purely in stress mode and that looks like it is going to cause a lot of trouble for a lot of people.

I think it is much more important to remember that we need to have fun, if you are stressed and doing terrible then you are doing something wrong and that is not the way to go, it would be a lot better if you could simply just focus on having fun instead of making money. I personally do that too, the fun part is the most important part for me and as long as I can do that then it means that I am on the right track and all the other parts just follows that later on.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 28, 2023, 11:51:16 PM

I’ve (@NastyMining) started following the Stake account on Twitter and I have been quite amused by the massive wins I’ve seen on there. I knew people were playing with high stakes but seeing people win jackpots in the millions is mind blowing. The people that win never even seem all that shocked with their life changing wins. It’s pretty interesting to see.

I think it is as Syztmz said before, you keep on losing so much over time ...and when you eventually win, it is as if it is a anti-climax to your daily routine. Just imagine losing $100k over a long period and then suddenly winning $60k.... you feel relieved and happy, but you know that the win is not making up for all your loses over time.

A lot of the paid streamers shows very little reaction when they win, because they know it is not their money. (It might not be the case with those people, but it is worth mentioning)

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Quote from: piebeyb on April 28, 2023, 12:52:42 PM

Gambling is a choice to play or not, of course it's a conscious choice, winning or losing is a risk that must be faced, don't play gambling if you don't want to take risks, winning is a bonus, don't prioritize winning consistently every day, after all, the real win is win control yourself or control our emotions in gambling.

Managing finances is not easy in gambling because it depends on how we can control ourselves, sometimes gambling when winning is difficult to control so in the end we keep playing and unconsciously spend the winnings again. so you will continue to lose at gambling, I also really want to feel victory but it's hard to get it, so I always play sports betting and never play casinos because it's hard to win at casinos, so I always play for fun at casinos, except sports betting for more serious bets looking for winnings. Grin

I am here to agree with your opinion, friends, and indeed, in reality, we must be responsible for choices when gambling and accept the risks involved, whether we win or lose.
In gambling winning is just a bonus and not everything because what is more valuable is the experience and learning you get while in the gambling industry.

I have a way to be able to manage finances to self-control, namely betting by having limits and all the money that I earn from work is held by my wife so that if the bet is lost it can stop immediately and it is not sustainable to make deposits.
That way I can have control myself and maybe you can apply this if you yourself have a family.

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I’ve (@NastyMining) started following the Stake account on Twitter and I have been quite amused by the massive wins I’ve seen on there. I knew people were playing with high stakes but seeing people win jackpots in the millions is mind blowing. The people that win never even seem all that shocked with their life changing wins. It’s pretty interesting to see.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 28, 2023, 05:55:43 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on April 28, 2023, 01:22:32 AM

I agree, whenever you gamble at a place that provides that much fun, it is important to remember that the earning part is only secondary to fun part. I personally have a lot of fun when gambling at Stake, that is the number one thing that I do and I believe that it will keep going for a long time as well, I do not think that it will change anytime soon.

I know that it is going to take a while for me to personally get better financially after the gambling is over because I will most probably lose money, but I do not bet too much so I should be fine and I have that much fun anyway. So when you are gambling, always aim at that level, always make sure that you end up gambling the way you always wanted to gamble and that's fine.

I'm not a hypocrite I also want to win when I gamble, it's just that it's not my main target, or exactly as you said, winning is a secondary need that if I don't get it it's not a big problem for me.
You have done the right thing and realize that your finances will be better if you don't play gambling, but if we can manage our finances as well as possible then it won't cause problems for our finances. Unless we are gambling addicts who cannot manage finances and cannot control emotions that will make us lose everything.

Every gambler, be it amateur or pro, will always want to win when carrying out gambling sessions and that is something commonplace. we all, want the same thing. like you guys said, winning is a secondary need. therefore, we get a sensation of happiness from the gambling sessions that we do.

Basically, if we want to make gambling just part of the fun. The thing to remember is, gamble with what you can afford to lose. and play properly, within the limits we can afford, without always having to chase victory. that way, we won't be too obsessed with making money from gambling, especially for types of casino gambling that tend to rely more on luck.
Speaking of managing finances, this applies not only to gambling. most importantly, we must have good management. separate them first, which are for pleasure and which are for needs. that way, we won't have any problems with our finances. plus, we can gamble calmly, without being burdened with things that spoil the mood when conducting gambling sessions.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 26, 2023, 12:43:09 AM

I think people are going to see a lot less people doing rains or tips, with the changes to the system. In the past, you just typed /tip @user and you set the amount, but now you have to do 2FA to do it... and I think all the extra hassles are just too much effort for people.

2FA served as an extra layer of security. We all know that stake does not automatically log out its users from its site. So 2fa can save a person's account if someone messes on their computer or the player lost his mobile phone (assuming the 2fa code is generated on the other phone).

Funny you mention the 2FA generated on one's phone. Because recently Google released a new update to their authenticator which backs up the time keys on the Google account of the user, so they are easier to recover in the case of the smartphone betting lost.
Before such improvement, if someone lost their phone, then there was not way to recover the 2FA and it was a matter to deal with the customer service and ask for a reset of the account security. It is very annoying when it happens because the proof of identity they can ask.

It is more convenient now, but also less private because God knows what kind of encryption Google has applied over the keys we use to log in Stake and basically if someone manages access to our Google account, then they also would have our keys, they just would need our passwords to have full access, something to consider. Tongue

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Quote from: piebeyb on April 28, 2023, 12:52:42 PM

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 28, 2023, 05:55:43 AM

I'm not a hypocrite I also want to win when I gamble, it's just that it's not my main target, or exactly as you said, winning is a secondary need that if I don't get it it's not a big problem for me.
You have done the right thing and realize that your finances will be better if you don't play gambling, but if we can manage our finances as well as possible then it won't cause problems for our finances. Unless we are gambling addicts who cannot manage finances and cannot control emotions that will make us lose everything.

Managing finances in gambling only some people are able to consistently continue to be able to control themselves in any situation.
Because in gambling there will always be situations where the gambler will lose in a row which causes the gambler to become emotional and always increase the number of bets or always deposit money and spend savings.
There are lots of cases of gamblers who in the end cannot control it all.

Gambling is a choice to play or not, of course it's a conscious choice, winning or losing is a risk that must be faced, don't play gambling if you don't want to take risks, winning is a bonus, don't prioritize winning consistently every day, after all, the real win is win control yourself or control our emotions in gambling.

Managing finances is not easy in gambling because it depends on how we can control ourselves, sometimes gambling when winning is difficult to control so in the end we keep playing and unconsciously spend the winnings again. so you will continue to lose at gambling, I also really want to feel victory but it's hard to get it, so I always play sports betting and never play casinos because it's hard to win at casinos, so I always play for fun at casinos, except sports betting for more serious bets looking for winnings. Grin

Exactly the same way i felt after playing casino games for a while and continually losing to the casino, that is, even with my winnings, I've never had the opportunity of withdrawing any profit to my wallet, because I always end up losing it back to the casino after winning it..

I moved over to sports betting, where I believe that betting and winning or losing all depends largely on what you know about the game, and how good you are at predicting the outcome of a match, unlike casino games where you solely have to depend on luck at all time to win.

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Quote from: klidex on April 28, 2023, 12:30:22 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 28, 2023, 05:55:43 AM

I'm not a hypocrite I also want to win when I gamble, it's just that it's not my main target, or exactly as you said, winning is a secondary need that if I don't get it it's not a big problem for me.
You have done the right thing and realize that your finances will be better if you don't play gambling, but if we can manage our finances as well as possible then it won't cause problems for our finances. Unless we are gambling addicts who cannot manage finances and cannot control emotions that will make us lose everything.

Managing finances in gambling only some people are able to consistently continue to be able to control themselves in any situation.
Because in gambling there will always be situations where the gambler will lose in a row which causes the gambler to become emotional and always increase the number of bets or always deposit money and spend savings.
There are lots of cases of gamblers who in the end cannot control it all.

Gambling is a choice to play or not, of course it's a conscious choice, winning or losing is a risk that must be faced, don't play gambling if you don't want to take risks, winning is a bonus, don't prioritize winning consistently every day, after all, the real win is win control yourself or control our emotions in gambling.

Managing finances is not easy in gambling because it depends on how we can control ourselves, sometimes gambling when winning is difficult to control so in the end we keep playing and unconsciously spend the winnings again. so you will continue to lose at gambling, I also really want to feel victory but it's hard to get it, so I always play sports betting and never play casinos because it's hard to win at casinos, so I always play for fun at casinos, except sports betting for more serious bets looking for winnings. Grin

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 28, 2023, 05:55:43 AM

I'm not a hypocrite I also want to win when I gamble, it's just that it's not my main target, or exactly as you said, winning is a secondary need that if I don't get it it's not a big problem for me.
You have done the right thing and realize that your finances will be better if you don't play gambling, but if we can manage our finances as well as possible then it won't cause problems for our finances. Unless we are gambling addicts who cannot manage finances and cannot control emotions that will make us lose everything.

Managing finances in gambling only some people are able to consistently continue to be able to control themselves in any situation.
Because in gambling there will always be situations where the gambler will lose in a row which causes the gambler to become emotional and always increase the number of bets or always deposit money and spend savings.
There are lots of cases of gamblers who in the end cannot control it all.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on April 28, 2023, 01:22:32 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 25, 2023, 02:27:51 AM

Quote from: slapper on April 24, 2023, 04:12:31 PM

Winning big is what makes a game our favorite, even if it takes us a while to get there. It's like a relationship, you gotta work for it to make it work!

But let's be real, we all have that one game that we keep coming back to, even if we're not winning. It's like a bad ex that we just can't let go of!

For me, it's the Gates of Olympus. Sure, it's fast to spend money, but when I hit that big multiplication, it's like fireworks are going off in my brain!

well, this is the point, there is indeed a special sensation when playing a favorite game like this because as you said, even though in this condition gambling, especially the Gates of Olympus, is sometimes a little detrimental but for fans, especially when looking at the visuals that are displayed, it clearly makes us feel slightly cured by wanting to be there regardless of winning or losing.

The satisfaction of getting a big multiplication makes this feel like an adrenaline rush that is real enough to watch Cheesy

I agree, whenever you gamble at a place that provides that much fun, it is important to remember that the earning part is only secondary to fun part. I personally have a lot of fun when gambling at Stake, that is the number one thing that I do and I believe that it will keep going for a long time as well, I do not think that it will change anytime soon.

I know that it is going to take a while for me to personally get better financially after the gambling is over because I will most probably lose money, but I do not bet too much so I should be fine and I have that much fun anyway. So when you are gambling, always aim at that level, always make sure that you end up gambling the way you always wanted to gamble and that's fine.

I'm not a hypocrite I also want to win when I gamble, it's just that it's not my main target, or exactly as you said, winning is a secondary need that if I don't get it it's not a big problem for me.
You have done the right thing and realize that your finances will be better if you don't play gambling, but if we can manage our finances as well as possible then it won't cause problems for our finances. Unless we are gambling addicts who cannot manage finances and cannot control emotions that will make us lose everything.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 25, 2023, 02:27:51 AM

Quote from: slapper on April 24, 2023, 04:12:31 PM

Winning big is what makes a game our favorite, even if it takes us a while to get there. It's like a relationship, you gotta work for it to make it work!

But let's be real, we all have that one game that we keep coming back to, even if we're not winning. It's like a bad ex that we just can't let go of!

For me, it's the Gates of Olympus. Sure, it's fast to spend money, but when I hit that big multiplication, it's like fireworks are going off in my brain!

well, this is the point, there is indeed a special sensation when playing a favorite game like this because as you said, even though in this condition gambling, especially the Gates of Olympus, is sometimes a little detrimental but for fans, especially when looking at the visuals that are displayed, it clearly makes us feel slightly cured by wanting to be there regardless of winning or losing.

The satisfaction of getting a big multiplication makes this feel like an adrenaline rush that is real enough to watch Cheesy

I agree, whenever you gamble at a place that provides that much fun, it is important to remember that the earning part is only secondary to fun part. I personally have a lot of fun when gambling at Stake, that is the number one thing that I do and I believe that it will keep going for a long time as well, I do not think that it will change anytime soon.

I know that it is going to take a while for me to personally get better financially after the gambling is over because I will most probably lose money, but I do not bet too much so I should be fine and I have that much fun anyway. So when you are gambling, always aim at that level, always make sure that you end up gambling the way you always wanted to gamble and that's fine.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 26, 2023, 12:43:09 AM

I think people are going to see a lot less people doing rains or tips, with the changes to the system. In the past, you just typed /tip @user and you set the amount, but now you have to do 2FA to do it... and I think all the extra hassles are just too much effort for people.

2FA served as an extra layer of security. We all know that stake does not automatically log out its users from its site. So 2fa can save a person's account if someone messes on their computer or the player lost his mobile phone (assuming the 2fa code is generated on the other phone).

Quote from: TopTort777 on April 26, 2023, 03:47:33 AM

That extra 2FA indeed look like an increase of chance to lose money. Who knows who could intercept that info. Those 6 digit post to chat can be used to access exchange or confirm a withdrawal somewhere. What about key loggers? Can they catch that 2FA numbers and use it elsewhere?

A phrase "even a stick one day shoots" confirms that extra usage of 2FA one day will lead to troubles. One day user will push alt tab accidentally or post those 2FA number in wrong browser tab and cry later.

2fa to increase the chance of losing money? The only thing that I think it increase the amount of losing money is when you lost access of the 2fa and failed to prove that you own the account. If someone is able to track your 2fa, he is surely able to track your account. Without 2fa, keyloggers will easily feast with your account data and can easily log in to our account. Besides, 2fa has a time limit. So it expires, like the google 2fa changes every 30 sec, the otp expires every 5 min, and so on..

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Quote from: o48o on April 27, 2023, 05:26:18 PM

Quote from: Hispo on April 26, 2023, 01:20:46 PM

I do not mind the 2FA, to be honest.
It can be useful to save someone whose account got compromised from losing it all in tips or withdrawals by a malicious actor, however I admit that having 2FA in options like sending rain could contribute to big gamblers not to give much away because the hassle and the time it takes.

Only once I had trouble with the Authenticator app, I entered the code and continuously gave me an error. I was able to figure it out when I realize the time on my phone was different from the time on the computer.

I still believe it would be cool if Stake supported physical keys in the future, as security measure.

Mind? 2FA is pretty much mandatory requirement on any site that has anything to do with my money or retrieving passwords so obviously i have been using that with casinos. I am also using it with sites that could be used to dox me by looking at ips etc.

I might be paranoid but i am taking this "be your own bank" maybe more seriously then other people as i don't have same security systems in place as banks and permissionless transactions are what they are.

I am also paranoid sometimes, so I know what you mean. I expressed myself that way because there are people who do not fully understand the importance of such security measures, probably because they have never suffered an cyber attack or identity theft. Lucky them.

Also, I mostly wanted to point out that even though 2FA is necessary when we talk about money services, there are different kinds of 2FA, the most primitive way is e-mail verification, then comes Google Auth and Authy and then the most secure way would be the use of a physical key. Perhaps you may feel interested in getting one. There are even videos on YT on how use one's Trezor and Ledger as factor of authentication.

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Quote from: Hispo on April 26, 2023, 01:20:46 PM

I do not mind the 2FA, to be honest.
It can be useful to save someone whose account got compromised from losing it all in tips or withdrawals by a malicious actor, however I admit that having 2FA in options like sending rain could contribute to big gamblers not to give much away because the hassle and the time it takes.

Only once I had trouble with the Authenticator app, I entered the code and continuously gave me an error. I was able to figure it out when I realize the time on my phone was different from the time on the computer.

I still believe it would be cool if Stake supported physical keys in the future, as security measure.

Mind? 2FA is pretty much mandatory requirement on any site that has anything to do with my money or retrieving passwords so obviously i have been using that with casinos. I am also using it with sites that could be used to dox me by looking at ips etc.

I might be paranoid but i am taking this "be your own bank" maybe more seriously then other people as i don't have same security systems in place as banks and permissionless transactions are what they are.

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I do not mind the 2FA, to be honest.
It can be useful to save someone whose account got compromised from losing it all in tips or withdrawals by a malicious actor, however I admit that having 2FA in options like sending rain could contribute to big gamblers not to give much away because the hassle and the time it takes.

Only once I had trouble with the Authenticator app, I entered the code and continuously gave me an error. I was able to figure it out when I realize the time on my phone was different from the time on the computer.

I still believe it would be cool if Stake supported physical keys in the future, as security measure.

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The discusion from Raint to 2FA Grin

Why is this being a big deal? this is just one of the security stuff and not only in "Stake" but also in other services like "Exchange" as well. With the recent hack, phishing, and other on stake, their action is already correct.

Rain comparing a total user fund, more prefer for user fund.

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 26, 2023, 02:16:08 AM

And if we are talking about $ 100-200, then, in my opinion, installing 2FA is just extra trouble and unnecessary entertainment for you, and as a result, just a waste of time. I have never heard that 2FA has seriously saved any of the users from a serious attack by scammers.

It means that $100-$200 is really small amount of money as it seems that you dont care about it much if you lose it due to something unexpected thing in your account.
For me, activating 2FA should not because the amount of money you usually have in your account but it is more about the security of your account.
Imagine your account is hacked because you do not activate 2FA, and the hacker use your account to scam others (maybe your friends).
Of course it is your own right to choose to have 2FA activated or not, but I would recommend all users to use this feature regardless how much money we usually have in the account.
I myself activated 2FA although I'm not a big gambler and I will prefer to spend more time due to this feature than losing some money.

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That extra 2FA indeed look like an increase of chance to lose money. Who knows who could intercept that info. Those 6 digit post to chat can be used to access exchange or confirm a withdrawal somewhere. What about key loggers? Can they catch that 2FA numbers and use it elsewhere?

A phrase "even a stick one day shoots" confirms that extra usage of 2FA one day will lead to troubles. One day user will push alt tab accidentally or post those 2FA number in wrong browser tab and cry later.

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