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Twitch released a statement that they’re banning twitch streamers who play on stake after October 18th. I hope this doesn’t have a major effect on the business. Stake has seen so much positive news over the last couple of years, this along with the recent lawsuit seems to indicate some growing pains. I hope stake is able to continue their great service and find new methods of promotion.

They are not going to stop people from using other streaming services.... just look at what happened when Eddie was banned on Twitch.tv ..... he simply moved operations to Dlive.tv and we are seeing a massive growth in the people who are watching his stream every weekend.

Eddie even said that they are considering buying the platform and then Twitch.tv will regret that they ever made that move, because most of those streamers will move to the DLive.tv site. Grin

I would guess that it is going to be hard because there aren't enough viewers in other places. If you are famous like ninja, you could go anywhere and make money anyway you want, hell you could start your own business and website and start streaming there and take crypto donations and stake could have its own streaming service that way where gamblers would gamble on stake.

They have the power to do it, they have the fame to do it, developers and designers to build it and they have enough attention from people to find viewers even if it is their own website.

But twitch does bring a lot more new customers and that is what mattered, unfortunately it is not going to exist in a month.

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Hahaha, just cant understand the situation. How is possible ~XD

Anway, "Stake" still can find the alternative by using "Youtube" rather than "Twitch". Yes, youtube have some regulation as well about gambling like Twitch but they're not really strict comparing with twitch.

So, could be the solution is using a youtube.

Other streaming platform are still available for the streamer to use, aside from youtube, Facebook can also be used. Besides, I read that Twitch will allow Casinos that have a license in the US so it is possible that stake streamer's stream activity on twitch will resume soon.

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 22, 2022, 02:17:17 PM

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Hahaha, just cant understand the situation. How is possible ~XD

Anway, "Stake" still can find the alternative by using "Youtube" rather than "Twitch". Yes, youtube have some regulation as well about gambling like Twitch but they're not really strict comparing with twitch.

So, could be the solution is using a youtube.

Eddie said they will offer Dlive for buying company but I don't know if it was joke or Stake really want to buy Dlive streaming platform.
After recent Twitch drama, many streamers look for alternatives and YouTube can't be perfect choice due to the similar gambling regulation.
Maybe Eddie will rebrand Dlive to EDLive and offer other streamers to continue on this platform🤔

Nice catch there. I think this is one good opportunity to expand the business, streaming is really a booming industry, and with the action of Twitch banning gambling streamers, the idea of Eddie buying Dlive make sense.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 22, 2022, 07:49:32 AM

Quote from: babygun on September 19, 2022, 04:05:51 PM

I don't think you can really ban players for that as they do nothing wrong in fact. They will probably just limit the players so they can only bet a low amount on the sports they always bet on. I got limited on a fiat only casino one time because I won like a bet of 100€ lol.

I don't think they would do that either. First off, you will never read in ToS of any reputable gambling site that winning too much results in some kind of limiting your bet amount. Secondly, you can bet a low amount many times and voila, you are betting big again, right?

That fiat based casino you were limited on for winning just €100 wasn't an example of a good casino, if you ask me.

I don't understand why you are saying that, with a username like yours, since 2014 you should be aware of how sportsbooks and casinos are working. You haven't read the post of rambofaik above or you just think it's a fake one? He even posted screenshots for people trying to deny the reality like what you seem to do in this post. And of course, no, you can't place several bets to circumvent those limitations, they would be useless otherwise.

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 22, 2022, 02:17:17 PM

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Hahaha, just cant understand the situation. How is possible ~XD

Anway, "Stake" still can find the alternative by using "Youtube" rather than "Twitch". Yes, youtube have some regulation as well about gambling like Twitch but they're not really strict comparing with twitch.

So, could be the solution is using a youtube.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 22, 2022, 07:49:32 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 19, 2022, 08:37:07 AM

This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.

I don't think you can really ban players for that as they do nothing wrong in fact. They will probably just limit the players so they can only bet a low amount on the sports they always bet on. I got limited on a fiat only casino one time because I won like a bet of 100€ lol.

I don't think they would do that either. First off, you will never read in ToS of any reputable gambling site that winning too much results in some kind of limiting your bet amount. Secondly, you can bet a low amount many times and voila, you are betting big again, right?

That fiat based casino you were limited on for winning just €100 wasn't an example of a good casino, if you ask me.

In the sport book it can happen in any casino because they buy the odds from another provider but in any trustworthy casino you will never have your amount limited if you win big in slots,at least I have not heard stories of such happenings in casinos we all love like Stake for example.Every time I check the lucky and big wins below the slot that I am playing I see an insanely huge amount of money won and the usernames of those people who have won them are still active there,meaning they did not get limited.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on September 20, 2022, 02:50:51 PM

Quote from: rdbase on September 20, 2022, 09:23:49 AM

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I still can't understand, how he on gambling debt while we all-know casino is doing affiliated program with most of stream/youtuber and they give a play-money & got a different payment depends on the contract.

Funny to see, streamer got a debts while he can just playing with free-money affiliated ~LOL.

Streamer is still normal people like us where there is still a chance for them to be attracted to play/gamble with their own real money.
Losing control of ourselves, this is the main reason why people got into debts because of gambling.
It is sad story ofc, but it is also a good lesson for us that we should always gambling responsibly.

Quote from: zuzie on September 20, 2022, 09:51:40 PM

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Pretty sure it is not a good news for Stake, but I'm sure Stake's team are ready for this already and they must have their own plan or strategy to deal with this situation.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 22, 2022, 07:49:32 AM

I don't think they would do that either. First off, you will never read in ToS of any reputable gambling site that winning too much results in some kind of limiting your bet amount. Secondly, you can bet a low amount many times and voila, you are betting big again, right?

That fiat based casino you were limited on for winning just €100 wasn't an example of a good casino, if you ask me.

You are right that it is never written in the TOS, but there are quite a few stories here on this forum where people won big and can now only bet low amounts on several sports markets.
I only joined that fiat casino because they had a real good welcome offer but stopped playing after I got limited lol.

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Quote from: FatFork on September 22, 2022, 09:16:35 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 22, 2022, 07:49:32 AM

Quote from: babygun on September 19, 2022, 04:05:51 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 19, 2022, 08:37:07 AM

This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.

I don't think you can really ban players for that as they do nothing wrong in fact. They will probably just limit the players so they can only bet a low amount on the sports they always bet on. I got limited on a fiat only casino one time because I won like a bet of 100€ lol.

I don't think they would do that either. First off, you will never read in ToS of any reputable gambling site that winning too much results in some kind of limiting your bet amount. Secondly, you can bet a low amount many times and voila, you are betting big again, right?

That fiat based casino you were limited on for winning just €100 wasn't an example of a good casino, if you ask me.

On the contrary, the majority of casinos do limit their customers' accounts to make sure they don't win too much. All casinos are commercial operations in the business of making money, and if you consistently win their money, they will limit your ability to continue taking it from them. Even if they can't stop you from winning, they do have to do something if you are a consistently profitable customer.

If some customers win a big amount of btc or any others currency and that casino site haven’t any daily limitation then they must have to pay there users. but that casino site didn’t pay there users winning rewords then they will considered as scam. it is only truth. there is no matter it is Trust or untrusted casino.

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Quote from: FatFork on September 22, 2022, 09:16:35 AM

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For all people.

In sport, bet is normal while a customer got a limited place a bets, from my experience seeing a problem in the forum. Sportbet case always have a higher chance getting a problem (Because easily to be beat + some of advantage player know how to cheat the odds).

But, while on regular games like (Table, or slot) even you win a lot they can pay you. How? because I already have some experience with a lot with 200$ and withdraw more than 10,000$.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 22, 2022, 07:49:32 AM

Quote from: babygun on September 19, 2022, 04:05:51 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 19, 2022, 08:37:07 AM

This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.

I don't think you can really ban players for that as they do nothing wrong in fact. They will probably just limit the players so they can only bet a low amount on the sports they always bet on. I got limited on a fiat only casino one time because I won like a bet of 100€ lol.

I don't think they would do that either. First off, you will never read in ToS of any reputable gambling site that winning too much results in some kind of limiting your bet amount. Secondly, you can bet a low amount many times and voila, you are betting big again, right?

That fiat based casino you were limited on for winning just €100 wasn't an example of a good casino, if you ask me.

On the contrary, the majority of casinos do limit their customers' accounts to make sure they don't win too much. All casinos are commercial operations in the business of making money, and if you consistently win their money, they will limit your ability to continue taking it from them. Even if they can't stop you from winning, they do have to do something if you are a consistently profitable customer.

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Quote from: babygun on September 19, 2022, 04:05:51 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 19, 2022, 08:37:07 AM

This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.

I don't think you can really ban players for that as they do nothing wrong in fact. They will probably just limit the players so they can only bet a low amount on the sports they always bet on. I got limited on a fiat only casino one time because I won like a bet of 100€ lol.

I don't think they would do that either. First off, you will never read in ToS of any reputable gambling site that winning too much results in some kind of limiting your bet amount. Secondly, you can bet a low amount many times and voila, you are betting big again, right?

That fiat based casino you were limited on for winning just €100 wasn't an example of a good casino, if you ask me.

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I'm not guaranteeing that a steak can never scam. But I think they won't scam easily because they have already spent millions of dollars through various marketing partnerships and giveaways and continue to do so and they are one of the biggest casino sites in the cryptocasino world .so i believe that they can do real business without scamming.

I think so too. If they want to cheat their many members, they will not last this long and can compete with other trusted and top casinos. Maybe they will end up losing the trust of their members so it won't take long to see them disappear from the list of trusted crypto casinos. Doing multimillion dollar promotions and doing it continuously provides an opportunity for them to gain more trust from the members so that they can play there comfortably and safely.

This place is the follow up on primedice as well, which means they have been in crypto gambling for over 8 years now and if you think that they will start to scam people after 8 years that would be funny. Just recently they literally put 10 million dollars per year deal on Everton jersey sponsorship, if they are willing to go that far then I am sure that they are not going to scam anyone.

Why spend so much to just scam? Would be smarter to spend as little as possible and get as much as possible. In this situation we should be doing fine, not going to be easy but I feel like it is going to be fine. Stake is trustworthy, and I am willing to go as far as saying they will NEVER scam anyone.

Yes, that's correct. As one of the oldest crypto casinos in the crypto casino business, Stake has proven that they are one of the most trusted and reputable casinos among other casinos so many of its members still play at that casino. By doing massive promotions to attract more new members, they really get benefits and of course, their profits will also get bigger.

Yes, we will be fine playing at Stake because they can take good care of us and continue to provide satisfactory service.

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As you say you have been in big profit after making just a few rolls, but what about after thousands ones? I doubt anyone sane will gamble more than 10% of his bank roll at each bet if he's trying to reach such wager amount. It means 1660 bets (332k/0.2k) have been made at least with an average stake of $200. On 1660 bets you are more likely to lose the house edge than to make winnings because it's not a small number. And if you are able to make winnings on large amount of bets, you are very likely to be banned or restricted.

This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.

I think a shady casino could do something like that and maybe they could even forbid you from withdrawing your earnings, most likely their reputation is bad already so they do not care too much about it anymore, however when it comes to casinos with a reputation to uphold this will be a move that is simply too aggressive and I do not think they will do it, most likely they will allow you to make your withdrawal but then your account will get limited.

Speaking about on Stake's reputation then there's no doubt that they wouldnt really be doing shady things like on what had been mentioned on banning out completely but its true that there might be some sort

of restriction or limitation on what you could possibly able to withdraw which it is really something not that surprising because company would really be having common sense on doing such thing.

If they do let these people do keep on winning and milking out the site then we do know on what would gonna happen next. Cheesy

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 19, 2022, 08:37:07 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on September 13, 2022, 05:56:41 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 13, 2022, 05:32:53 AM

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As you say you have been in big profit after making just a few rolls, but what about after thousands ones? I doubt anyone sane will gamble more than 10% of his bank roll at each bet if he's trying to reach such wager amount. It means 1660 bets (332k/0.2k) have been made at least with an average stake of $200. On 1660 bets you are more likely to lose the house edge than to make winnings because it's not a small number. And if you are able to make winnings on large amount of bets, you are very likely to be banned or restricted.

This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.

I think a shady casino could do something like that and maybe they could even forbid you from withdrawing your earnings, most likely their reputation is bad already so they do not care too much about it anymore, however when it comes to casinos with a reputation to uphold this will be a move that is simply too aggressive and I do not think they will do it, most likely they will allow you to make your withdrawal but then your account will get limited.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on September 21, 2022, 05:54:56 AM

Because people are watching there has some hope as well a "Giveaway".

That's why everyone follows him even we all know "Dlive" is not quite popular, we can see the comparition between Microsoft Game Live with Twitch. Even they can bring shroud, they still can't passed twitch.
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Back to the topic, twitch are really fight against gambling activity on their platform. The different of this case, there has some case on their streamer (That's why they take more action) rather than the previous one.

Some people may have been following or watching his stream because of possible giveaway however I doubt that everyone of them are only there for giveaway purposes. Strategies and other possible reason could also be considered as I don't think these people will waste their time watching and even following them on other platform just for a chance on the giveaway.

That's the thing, DLive isn't that popular yet they managed to retain some or most of their viewers. Anyways, even if they bought the streaming platform, we all know that they can't overtake twitch in terms of popularity.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 21, 2022, 01:51:33 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on September 20, 2022, 07:18:15 PM

Twitch released a statement that they’re banning twitch streamers who play on stake after October 18th. I hope this doesn’t have a major effect on the business. Stake has seen so much positive news over the last couple of years, this along with the recent lawsuit seems to indicate some growing pains. I hope stake is able to continue their great service and find new methods of promotion.

They are not going to stop people from using other streaming services.... just look at what happened when Eddie was banned on Twitch.tv ..... he simply moved operations to Dlive.tv and we are seeing a massive growth in the people who are watching his stream every weekend.

Eddie even said that they are considering buying the platform and then Twitch.tv will regret that they ever made that move, because most of those streamers will move to the DLive.tv site. Grin

This is a brilliant idea that Eddie took. Casinos are the biggest financial earners in the world, and in the future there should be a streaming platform that is truly open to casino streamers. Imagine if DLive.tv finally provided a platform for casino streamers, then not only Twitch, other platforms that have banned gambling gradually could lose their users (users who love gambling).

Indeed, almost all social media seem to ban streamers featuring gambling. Of course this will have an impact on the casino. Because social media is a powerful weapon in running a business. In some countries, gambling is now more stringent. This will put pressure on casinos to look for alternative methods of promotion. I think not only Stake.com, even other casinos will also look for alternatives.

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I'm not guaranteeing that a steak can never scam. But I think they won't scam easily because they have already spent millions of dollars through various marketing partnerships and giveaways and continue to do so and they are one of the biggest casino sites in the cryptocasino world .so i believe that they can do real business without scamming.

I think so too. If they want to cheat their many members, they will not last this long and can compete with other trusted and top casinos. Maybe they will end up losing the trust of their members so it won't take long to see them disappear from the list of trusted crypto casinos. Doing multimillion dollar promotions and doing it continuously provides an opportunity for them to gain more trust from the members so that they can play there comfortably and safely.

This place is the follow up on primedice as well, which means they have been in crypto gambling for over 8 years now and if you think that they will start to scam people after 8 years that would be funny. Just recently they literally put 10 million dollars per year deal on Everton jersey sponsorship, if they are willing to go that far then I am sure that they are not going to scam anyone.

Why spend so much to just scam? Would be smarter to spend as little as possible and get as much as possible. In this situation we should be doing fine, not going to be easy but I feel like it is going to be fine. Stake is trustworthy, and I am willing to go as far as saying they will NEVER scam anyone.

The growth have happened as a long process. They started with primedice and as an extension to the same, Stake got launched. From there slowly the casino grew and the success made path for addition of sports betting. Stake now have emerged as a universal name for cryptocurrency accepted gambling. With such growth they'll never find ways to scam people rather than gaining the trust of people.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 20, 2022, 07:48:46 AM

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I'm not guaranteeing that a steak can never scam. But I think they won't scam easily because they have already spent millions of dollars through various marketing partnerships and giveaways and continue to do so and they are one of the biggest casino sites in the cryptocasino world .so i believe that they can do real business without scamming.

I think so too. If they want to cheat their many members, they will not last this long and can compete with other trusted and top casinos. Maybe they will end up losing the trust of their members so it won't take long to see them disappear from the list of trusted crypto casinos. Doing multimillion dollar promotions and doing it continuously provides an opportunity for them to gain more trust from the members so that they can play there comfortably and safely.

This place is the follow up on primedice as well, which means they have been in crypto gambling for over 8 years now and if you think that they will start to scam people after 8 years that would be funny. Just recently they literally put 10 million dollars per year deal on Everton jersey sponsorship, if they are willing to go that far then I am sure that they are not going to scam anyone.

Why spend so much to just scam? Would be smarter to spend as little as possible and get as much as possible. In this situation we should be doing fine, not going to be easy but I feel like it is going to be fine. Stake is trustworthy, and I am willing to go as far as saying they will NEVER scam anyone.

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