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This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.

I don't think you can really ban players for that as they do nothing wrong in fact. They will probably just limit the players so they can only bet a low amount on the sports they always bet on. I got limited on a fiat only casino one time because I won like a bet of 100€ lol.
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As you say you have been in big profit after making just a few rolls, but what about after thousands ones? I doubt anyone sane will gamble more than 10% of his bank roll at each bet if he's trying to reach such wager amount. It means 1660 bets (332k/0.2k) have been made at least with an average stake of $200. On 1660 bets you are more likely to lose the house edge than to make winnings because it's not a small number. And if you are able to make winnings on large amount of bets, you are very likely to be banned or restricted.

This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.
If a large account wins, that account will be banned by showing any reason Something like this can happen in new casinos site. But the site has been in the market for a long time.  and is constantly distributing millions of dollars through various giveaways.  I don't believe that casino site would do such a thing. The op made such a comment without understanding it.

Right, very likely the same as guess because it doesn't have a strong basis to prove the statement
Not only for giveaways, they have also spent millions of dollars to partner with football clubs and athletes to expand their business reach.. So it's hard for me to believe that they will ruin the reputation that has been built just for a case like this
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As you say you have been in big profit after making just a few rolls, but what about after thousands ones? I doubt anyone sane will gamble more than 10% of his bank roll at each bet if he's trying to reach such wager amount. It means 1660 bets (332k/0.2k) have been made at least with an average stake of $200. On 1660 bets you are more likely to lose the house edge than to make winnings because it's not a small number. And if you are able to make winnings on large amount of bets, you are very likely to be banned or restricted.

This is actually a very interesting question for me. Is it true that you can be banned from an online casino like Stake for the only reason that you are winning too much?

I know it used to be a thing for some land based casinos in the past, but I don't think reputable online casinos of the level of Stake are practicing it these days. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all top online casinos don't do that.
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I tried so hard to get this vip level on Stake, i spend my years on that. But now i get limited on sports bet. Could you please help me about that?
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@rambofaik while they have cited profits as the main reason I believe that they’re also investigating your account for possible fraudulent activities, hence they have limited your account for the time being. Lastly try and spread your bets more, and do as the support says i.e. continue playing naturally for a while and once they verify that there’s no shady activities being done then I’m sure that they’ll probably restore your limits back, but it won’t be anytime soon for sure.
I doubt that there's any issue on the OP's account regarding potential fraudulent activities as they would not just limit the account but rather put a hold on it. I think it is most likely that the providers are reviewing his account and checking previous and future bets made and that will determine the limit that they'll set on the next update on the account. I suggest that OP should contact support at least every 1-2 weeks and see if there's any update about the limit on his account to avoid further delay on continuous back and forth email update.
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I tried so hard to get this vip level on Stake, i spend my years on that. But now i get limited on sports bet. Could you please help me about that?
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I see in your most recent post regarding this issue that you already received a response, but if I were you I wouldn't hold too much of a hope for things to change, casinos are a business so if someone wins consistently then they have the right to take measures to reduce your edge over them, this is no different than when in a psychical casino you are winning a lot of money at blackjack and then you're asked to leave, it's likely you have a winning ratio or profits way above the average and this is what has caused your account to be limited.

@rambofaik while they have cited profits as the main reason I believe that they’re also investigating your account for possible fraudulent activities, hence they have limited your account for the time being. Lastly try and spread your bets more, and do as the support says i.e. continue playing naturally for a while and once they verify that there’s no shady activities being done then I’m sure that they’ll probably restore your limits back, but it won’t be anytime soon for sure.
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I tried so hard to get this vip level on Stake, i spend my years on that. But now i get limited on sports bet. Could you please help me about that?
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I see in your most recent post regarding this issue that you already received a response, but if I were you I wouldn't hold too much of a hope for things to change, casinos are a business so if someone wins consistently then they have the right to take measures to reduce your edge over them, this is no different than when in a psychical casino you are winning a lot of money at blackjack and then you're asked to leave, it's likely you have a winning ratio or profits way above the average and this is what has caused your account to be limited.
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legendary
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It seems like the base bet is not based solely on VIP level, but also recent action.

A plat 2 that wagered $6k over the past 6 months is likely going to have a lower base amount than a plat 2 that has been wagering 60k a month for the past 6 months - and if both players wager 0 next month, I would expect the second player to still receive the higher base amount.  

You claimed a couple months ago that you don't play at Stake any more.  If that's still the case, and you got $12, then $12 is the base amount, which, imo is generous. 

It is clear now that base amount for monthly bonus is not solely based on our VIP rank but also based on our wagering activity.
Of course it is understandable if players get less amount than other although they are at the same VIP rank.
Casino is a business, so there must be a good calculation as well as policy for the promotion to make it worth for the casino.
Above user is no longer actively playing (as per his own claim) but he still receive the bonuses although not as much as before, yes it is still generous act from Stake to give him the bonuses.
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September monthly bonus has been sent by Stake today. Surprisingly, I have received less than $200 with almost $400k wager. I had received more than $100 from the previous monthly bonus with $85k wager only. My gameplay activity is same as it was in the previous month. I have played in-house games, slots and placed bets on sports event too. Didn't expect such low bonus amount from the monthly



It's really beyond my expectation because we think you will get more than $300 but will it be possible because you got profit in your game last month? we know stake has applied different formula for bonus since few months ago.

By the way how much is the base bonus for Platinum 3 ? I am platinum 1 and my base bonus is $50

There is no such thing as a base amount. My platinum 2 account got 12$.

So your base amount is $12, assuming you didn't play.


When someone says he has base 50$ for plat 1 and I have 12$ for platinum 2 you cannot talk of base amounts, my level is higher so my "base" should be higher obviously.
Yet another smart post from you. Business as usual.

It seems like the base bet is not based solely on VIP level, but also recent action.

A plat 2 that wagered $6k over the past 6 months is likely going to have a lower base amount than a plat 2 that has been wagering 60k a month for the past 6 months - and if both players wager 0 next month, I would expect the second player to still receive the higher base amount.  

You claimed a couple months ago that you don't play at Stake any more.  If that's still the case, and you got $12, then $12 is the base amount, which, imo is generous. 
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So, the sportsbook team confirmed that the limits have been reduced by the providers for now.
They are reviewing your account on a daily basis and the limits will be reviewed at the end of each week. So, they can be increased again as well based on the provider's interpretation.
I'll keep you updated with any changes in regards to this as soon as I'm informed. 🙏

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Hi there.
I am sorry but we have no control over your limits. They are being set by our odds provider on sport, tournament, match, market and user level.
Keep in mind that it is not based on the amounts you can wager per bet but they are set based on the potential profit from a single bet. If you already made a bet on the same match and market you are trying to bet again keep in mind that having a bet on it already will reduce the potential profit available for the second bet.
Stay active and they will review your account frequently and apply the changes where they deem fit.


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I am sorry but we have no control over your limits. They are being set by our odds provider on sport, tournament, match, market and user level.
Keep in mind that it is not based on the amounts you can wager per bet but they are set based on the potential profit from a single bet. If you already made a bet on the same match and market you are trying to bet again keep in mind that having a bet on it already will reduce the potential profit available for the second bet.
Stay active and they will review your account frequently and apply the changes where they deem fit.


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I believe that no reputable casino site will not do anything like this. But if a user violates their mentioned rules and starts cheating then his account may be banned or temporarily locked. But if someone wins any big amount then his account will be locked I don't find any reason for this. It's just a funny quote . There is no justification for this
I agree with you.  I have never seen such a problem with any casino site to date.  I think if a person tries to cheat someone.  If the casino team finds out, there may be a problem with his account.  I don't think there will be more.  I have heard of some problems before.  But I don't think any casino would do such a thing.
Stake has a history of people trying to cheat them out of money (*cough hufflepuff *cough) and I believe that they check it very well. A person who wins a ton of money here is actually a good thing for them because in the end there are two options, either they could use it for marketing to show everyone how you could win a lot as well, and secondly they could end up waiting for that person to gamble even more and eventually lose it.

Stake literally allows people to gamble with millions, even drake does it, and you think that millions will not be allowed if it was a win? And I am 100% sure it wasn't even millions he is talking about, so it is clear that stake does allow you for sure, the problem must be somewhere else.
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So your max bet on sports is just $10 now? so I was wondering if there could be a gambler who always wins on every bet or at least 9 wins in 10 bets?
If there is I am willing to buy a betting package or even share profits with them, honestly I don't believe in stories like this unless they have a team that can manage the final result.

It's like an art. This is our stats in Stake:



We already provided a website full of strategies how to win more often than losing, the thread doesn't seem to bring any interest from posters here, people by nature like to follow streamers who don't even play with their own money, but it's much more entertaining than reading a boring blog here:

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Just visit the Strategies page in our blog if you really want to know how to win more often than losing, it's not that hard.

How do you know that you are being limited in the Sports book?

It will say "Max limit reached" - we got limited with basketball as well, can barely place $100 on the NBA/WNBA even large events like Eurobasket - nothing.

In these instances you turn to Fairlay or betting agents who use Pinnacle and such in order to place large bets without being limited. Stake unfortunately is not open for winning bettors completely yet, but it's their business, so no complaints here.
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I also got limited years ago. You can see it once your "max bet button" disappears.
After that I can bet like 10$ on singles on basketball where I could bet an easy 1k before.

When I asked my host back then he just told me its the odds providers decision, because I won too much. Same old.
They want suckers that play casino but once you have an edge on sports they show you the door. Today I got 0.08$ weekly bonus for platinum 2 account, thank you stake.

So your max bet on sports is just $10 now? so I was wondering if there could be a gambler who always wins on every bet or at least 9 wins in 10 bets?
If there is I am willing to buy a betting package or even share profits with them, honestly I don't believe in stories like this unless they have a team that can manage the final result.
sr. member
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I also got limited years ago. You can see it once your "max bet button" disappears.
After that I can bet like 10$ on singles on basketball where I could bet an easy 1k before.

When I asked my host back then he just told me its the odds providers decision, because I won too much. Same old.
They want suckers that play casino but once you have an edge on sports they show you the door. Today I got 0.08$ weekly bonus for platinum 2 account, thank you stake.

Sorry to hear it.
Only betting exchanges are ones who allow you to bet without limits.
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I tried so hard to get this vip level on Stake, i spend my years on that. But now i get limited on sports bet. Could you please help me about that?
username  : rambofaik




I think you are reading it wrong..... if you are referring to what they are saying in the picture you send. They are just saying that if you play Sports bets... your wagering there are counting 3 times more to your progress in the VIP ranking.  Wink

How do you know that you are being limited in the Sports book? Can you send us a picture, where it states that? In any way.. if you are limited.. nobody here will be able to reverse that decision.  Roll Eyes
Probably betting limits, he can't place bets for big multis and can't bet over limited $ amount per bet slip. Maybe something was wrong,  I am also curious what support said about this case.
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Anyway, is crazy so see your betting activity and losses. My advise, please try to control your gambling activity as the fellow bitcointalk community.
My betting activity goes up and down on time to time. I have played and wagered like that in the past too, but I rarely share my betting stats here. Thank you for the advice, I will try to reduce my betting activity Wink

I think Stake realize that some users bet with low risk to build a monthly wager so they updated the bonus rules but still fair.
By the way I'm curious what are you looking for on PrimeDice? even though you can play it (Dice) on Stake right?
Probably Stake has changed the system to make the bonus more fair for those users who loss big amount without wagering a decent amount. Low risk can't guarantee you to stay in profit always.
I'm habituated with the dice game UI of Primedice. So, I prefer PD whenever I want to play the dice game.
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I tried so hard to get this vip level on Stake, i spend my years on that. But now i get limited on sports bet. Could you please help me about that?
username  : rambofaik




I think you are reading it wrong..... if you are referring to what they are saying in the picture you send. They are just saying that if you play Sports bets... your wagering there are counting 3 times more to your progress in the VIP ranking.  Wink

How do you know that you are being limited in the Sports book? Can you send us a picture, where it states that? In any way.. if you are limited.. nobody here will be able to reverse that decision.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Again this kind of issue was brought up many times. Casino is not the one who decides on the bet limit allowed per player because odds provider is the one who gives this to the player based on the win rate of your account. So far I don’t see any player who wish get back his old limits was granted because this is out of control of the Casino you are playing.

This is really sucks for Platinum players if you get most of your wager volume on sportsbook. The best thing to do is to talk to support and ask for possible solution.
Yes he could talk with them because as we know Stake has its own team dedicated to that, and their odds provider claims to leave "full control" to its customers. If Stake wasn't able to do anything they would get troubles with their high rollers, streamers and ambassadors, or gambling authorities and courts in case of disputes.

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I tried so hard to get this vip level on Stake, i spend my years on that. But now i get limited on sports bet. Could you please help me about that?
username  : rambofaik




Again this kind of issue was brought up many times. Casino is not the one who decides on the bet limit allowed per player because odds provider is the one who gives this to the player based on the win rate of your account. So far I don’t see any player who wish get back his old limits was granted because this is out of control of the Casino you are playing.

This is really sucks for Platinum players if you get most of your wager volume on sportsbook. The best thing to do is to talk to support and ask for possible solution.
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