Topic: StartCoin to become largest altcoin within 24 months (Karl Gray - Mega whale) - page 8. (Read 14202 times)

No one who ratted out his own friends can be considered a "hero".
Only total internet retards who don´t know him would even consider this and this can only happen here on bitcointalk.

keiser and gray pumped and dumped the shit out of Litecoin, dumping their coins when it hit enough on tons of innocent fools.
Maxcoin was a scam from day one and since has been gone were it belongs.


Keisers show airs all over the world? How much crack did you smoke, it runs on russia today which alone says enough.

Kim Dotcom is not mothers best boy, but he is very smart and an internet hero for a lot of people. Many of the things he is doing are the right things(TM). StartCOIN is for starting a revolution, not for keeping status quo.

He got the honor of being the first with his very own Startcoin scratch cards https://www.startjoin.com/scratch4kim

Keiser's TV show air's all over the world - http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/ - and was telling people to buy Bitcoin when it was $3 (although I have not checked that myself)

The business models of Kim Schmitz aka Kimble aka Kim Tim Jim Vestor aka Kim Dotcom are quiet easy to understand, he and his business partners betray all others for personal profit.

His history in brief:

1) He was arrested for trafficking stolen phone calling cards, released, arrested again... 11 counts of computer fraud and 10 for data espionage.
2) He worked together with Günther Freiherr von Gravereuth to snitch out Kim´s own friends who were running BBS´ just for the sake of making cash and selling the data to the cops, he even posed to be a girl in various amiga/c64 newspaper who is searching for people to send her warez (on floppys...back then)... of course all he wanted was the address data so he could sell them to Günther and his cop friends.
His fake name back then was "Tanja" a german girls name he had a large success with to snitch out tons of nerds who did nothing than helping "her".
3) He stole a hack from mr ma****** and became telekom employeer in germany, or well he founded his own company called DataProtect who got paid by Telekom..., they paid him not to publish it, a hack he didn´t even do himself, he managed to steal a hack, thats just ridiculous.
It was a bug/exploit in the GSM system of Deutsche Telekom Mobil D-1 (germanies largest phone provider) - just for info; he stole that hack from someone else and made cash with it.
4) He claimed he hacked the Citibank and wired Greenpeace 20 MIO USD; Greenpeach knows absolutely nothing about this.
5) He bought stocks from Letsbuyit.com, pumped and dumped them....stock market fraud + insider trading.
6) He fled to Thailand, tried to kill himself (or at least he said so online...) ...got arrested again for the stock market fraud in germany.
7) He moved to honkgong, registered a bullshit company called Kimpire Limited, he made shit like Hackers against Jihad after 11. September, yes he even wanted to profit from one of the worst terrorist attacks ever.
Hongkong made a case against him because stock market fraud, kim fatcom left HK and has gone to New Zealand.
9) NZ is so fucking stupid and lets him in, without checking why he had to flew from HK, once again totally bankrupt of course.
10) He founded Megaupload bullshit...and the rest is known....
11) Shit blows up, FBI wants to fuck him, everyone who knows Kim from the past wishes the FBI succeeds.
12) He found new scam idiots, this time Karl Grey and Max Keiser, all already known for the pump and dump. Keiser even having a tv show in mother russia...

You have no idea.. dogecoinshop was thanking me for the contributions I did to his projects on startjoin. Besides, this topic is important, it's not every day one of the richest bitcoin holders on earth tells the audience that a new coin is about to arise to fame. I'm not advertising, just giving a hint (believe it or not). It probably does not matter to startcoins future success what readers of this forum thinks anyway.

funny I bumped a topic on jackpot coin and I got the topic moved to the trash for advertising (couple months back) and yet you can post this ?
yeah I got pissed off the usual double standard around here..  

My pleasure, you are doing a great job!

Hello Ducky, Thanks for the backing.

Limbaugh is right, you have to study the business model to understand why it's not just another altcoin. I think this recent tweet sums it up quite well.



 

So don't buy any StartCOIN. What is the reason for the ignorant hater rampage?

You obviously have not even bothered to look at the StartJOIN business model. Had you, everyone of your rants would have been answered.

So yes, we needed one more - StartCOIN. And it will be second to none.

what is different than say Ripple ? 50% pre-mine vs 100% ?
it's still the same old routine.. nothing changes.

I'd love to sit on 40 million coins and make bold predictions hoping you all make my coins worth a $ buck each LOL
You just can't dance around the core key facts.
Look around no one cares about Altcoins.. they care about Bitcoin itself (the market values speak loud & clear on that)
Why one more ?
So I can be the Satoshi sitting on the massive mother load hoping it goes to a grand a coin that is why.
Grand plans.. good luck with that.

And don't get me wrong here I may be negative but so what, no one cares what I think..
I spoke up loudly before Doge coin took off for example and you all called me a Troll and bought Doge coins regardless LOL
The people will do what they want to do.. problem is the kids that showed up got smarter or ran out of money.
You can only rip off little kids for their money so many times before they are broke.

How many existing currencies existed before StartCoin ?
We needed another one ? really ?

Twitter is as I said the most important channel: 



https://twitter.com/paradimeshift

The social part, with things like karma score for rewards, and the messages between users, which is rather important as there is a lot of communication going on would not work. If a project does not get fully funded the funds are given back, that would not work either. So, no it would not work. That said, there could theoretically be a way to give to projects without having to log in. Then it would have to be bitcoin or startcoin, and you would not get your funds back even if the project did not reach its target.

Lighthouse is one example.    

Why make users push extra buttons when you could just display an address and collect the cash?  You can still take a cut, so I don't get it.  The only reason I can think to do this would be to collect a database of donor's emails for use in spamming, but I still fail to see how this could be worth as much as the business you lose by making potential donors jump through hoops, not to mention the extra server side costs.  And anyway, most will give you fake / throwaway ones.  



  

 

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Do you find any crowdfunding platforms where you don't need an account? If you use facebook it takes the push of a button.


BTw, we are supporting anonymity https://www.startjoin.com/StartOR_Project

For starters (no pun intended)  we have things like:  "You must first login or signup to support a project".   WTF?  I wonder if they screen addresses out of peoles project descriptions to ensure their cut? 

At best this is middlemanism (which doesn't necessarily imply scam btw), and hiring expensive lawyers and accountants (as seen on startjoin www) with monies you divert from people trying to fund small projects is at best a mistake.   

"London is the heart of world kleptocracy, that's why I moved here.  Buy startcoin".  Something like that. 

   

 


 

So, whats scam about it?

I think we were talking about startcoin. 

Right, what exactly is the scamming accusation about?

lets save the world from the evil bankers says a group of multi millionaire pro scamers 

Yes it is relevant. Maxcoin was a good coin, but lost Keiser's interest after the much better concept of Startcoin was conceived. Maxcoin is not and never was a part of a financial ecosystem like startcoin is. Startcoin is Max's brainchild, Maxcoin was not, it was a student project that he backed. Maxcoin is also part of the reason Startcoin is still so incredibly cheap because of suspicion from the public.


I think Startjoin is cloudflared, and pretty robust built, but I do not know the details. More accountability would be nice. The addresses for premined blocks can be found on startcoin website.



They have not been quiet at all, you just have not followed the right channels for information. Twitter is most important. Close to nobody care about bitcointalk, but I think it's only fair that it's also posted here when such large events happen.


What is bullshit about the market cap data? Jamie's computers at startjoin knows exactly how many coins from the premine has entered circulation, and that number is included in the Available Supply on http://coinmarketcap.com/ (25,507,235 START). There is another number, Total supply which is currently mined coins + the whole of the premine (56,923,960 START) Finally there is the total number of coins that will ever be mined (pre and not pre) which is 84 million coins.