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ancap
May 31, 2016, 05:34:04 PM
#12
The only thing that gives a government strength is taxation. If people didn't want government, they would stop paying taxes.
If you don't pay your taxes, you go to the jail. This is why people pay it. It wasn't about that they want government. They don't want to go to jail. That's it.
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 05:22:02 PM
#11
Come on. The majority of the people in the world want a government... a state.

They are trying to be like a wife with her husband. They say to the government, "You be the government, but do it our way."

Cool

When did you last time checkout Voter Turnout Stats worldwide?

Are you really asking if people pay taxes?    Cool

Voter turnout is the percentage of eligible voters who cast a ballot in an election.  After increasing for many decades, there has been a trend of decreasing voter turnout in most established democracies since the 1980s. So ask yourself again: do majority of the people in the world want a government?


The only thing that gives a government strength is taxation. If people didn't want government, they would stop paying taxes.

Cool
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ancap
May 31, 2016, 05:20:18 PM
#10
Come on. The majority of the people in the world want a government... a state.

They are trying to be like a wife with her husband. They say to the government, "You be the government, but do it our way."

Cool

When did you last time checkout Voter Turnout Stats worldwide?

Are you really asking if people pay taxes?    Cool

Voter turnout is the percentage of eligible voters who cast a ballot in an election.  After increasing for many decades, there has been a trend of decreasing voter turnout in most established democracies since the 1980s. So ask yourself again: do majority of the people in the world want a government?
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 05:12:05 PM
#9
Come on. The majority of the people in the world want a government... a state.

They are trying to be like a wife with her husband. They say to the government, "You be the government, but do it our way."

Cool

When did you last time checkout Voter Turnout Stats worldwide?

Are you really asking if people pay taxes?    Cool
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ancap
May 31, 2016, 05:08:24 PM
#8
Come on. The majority of the people in the world want a government... a state.

They are trying to be like a wife with her husband. They say to the government, "You be the government, but do it our way."

Cool

When did you last time checkout Voter Turnout Stats worldwide?
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 05:00:48 PM
#7
Come on. The majority of the people in the world want a government... a state.

They are trying to be like a wife with her husband. They say to the government, "You be the government, but do it our way."

Cool
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ancap
May 31, 2016, 04:20:31 PM
#6
Take a look at what is driving this forum,loans,signatures,escrow,gambling,account sales and investment based products. Compared to how many posts to live off the grid,be self sufficient,live without banks or even counter views on keeping bitcoin unregulated!
Its very clear the way it is going,at least on this forum that profit drives bitcoin rather than world wide change.

Good point. Majority of the BTC users think BTC as a profit machine. But it is not. Together with the NMC it is designed for a big world wide change. At this point NMC is almost dead, and BTC has many rivals a.k.a alt coins. Who knows? Maybe some freedom fighter take all these BTC and start a very big movement without governments if not already. One thing I'm quite sure BTC is not designed for societies who allow governments take full control of all people living in this lovely planet called Earth.
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May 31, 2016, 03:18:32 PM
#5
I don't agree with this. Bitcoin is a prime example of people thinking out of box. Bitcoin seems to have both positive and negative impression on society. People long ago and for many times predicted the death of bitcoin but it still exist today. If ever bitcoins totally fail, The fight between regulation and freedom will exist.

I agree with this.

The biggest, and maybe the only reason, why we aren't more advanced (any field) as a race is (so called) regulations .
In that you can include - power, greed, etc.

bitcoin and its system is actually completely opposite, giving general public a lot of benefits.

Also the biggest reason why similar system/currency/whatever is not implemented in a big ass country is .... government is not getting paid! uncle sam is not getting his share.
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May 31, 2016, 03:17:52 PM
#4
That was the goal but take a look at this forum and how monetary value drives most discussion in the context of investment. For some reason the new wave of people would rather hand bitcoin over to be regulated so they can profit and get out.
To answer your question I believe it was designed that way and should have progressed to that ideology.
The rebuttal will be that bitcoin is open and therefore whatever direction it goes is the way it goes.
But I think we have plenty of interest groups hijacking what could have been a good shakeup to the system.

It came at a time when the world is about to step into a new stage of regulate and stifle.
These trade agreements will strip us down and most likely restrict movement,so enjoy the last days of what we call freedom.

I don't agree with this. Bitcoin is a prime example of people thinking out of box. Bitcoin seems to have both positive and negative impression on society. People long ago and for many times predicted the death of bitcoin but it still exist today. If ever bitcoins totally fail, The fight between regulation and freedom will exist.

You do not agree with the current perception I have of people in bitcoin to profit over societal change?
Take a look at what is driving this forum,loans,signatures,escrow,gambling,account sales and investment based products. Compared to how many posts to live off the grid,be self sufficient,live without banks or even counter views on keeping bitcoin unregulated!
Its very clear the way it is going,at least on this forum that profit drives bitcoin rather than world wide change.
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May 31, 2016, 03:07:38 PM
#3
That was the goal but take a look at this forum and how monetary value drives most discussion in the context of investment. For some reason the new wave of people would rather hand bitcoin over to be regulated so they can profit and get out.
To answer your question I believe it was designed that way and should have progressed to that ideology.
The rebuttal will be that bitcoin is open and therefore whatever direction it goes is the way it goes.
But I think we have plenty of interest groups hijacking what could have been a good shakeup to the system.

It came at a time when the world is about to step into a new stage of regulate and stifle.
These trade agreements will strip us down and most likely restrict movement,so enjoy the last days of what we call freedom.

I don't agree with this. Bitcoin is a prime example of people thinking out of box. Bitcoin seems to have both positive and negative impression on society. People long ago and for many times predicted the death of bitcoin but it still exist today. If ever bitcoins totally fail, The fight between regulation and freedom will exist.
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May 31, 2016, 02:00:39 PM
#2
That was the goal but take a look at this forum and how monetary value drives most discussion in the context of investment. For some reason the new wave of people would rather hand bitcoin over to be regulated so they can profit and get out.
To answer your question I believe it was designed that way and should have progressed to that ideology.
The rebuttal will be that bitcoin is open and therefore whatever direction it goes is the way it goes.
But I think we have plenty of interest groups hijacking what could have been a good shakeup to the system.

It came at a time when the world is about to step into a new stage of regulate and stifle.
These trade agreements will strip us down and most likely restrict movement,so enjoy the last days of what we call freedom.
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ancap
May 31, 2016, 09:29:21 AM
#1
Do you think that BTC is designed for stateless societies?

We all know that almost all world governments use paper money to maintain its power. They are controlling inflation and deflation cycles by just printing more fiat.

So, will BTC really survive in an environment where all the world governments survivability depends on paper money?
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