Topic: S_Therapist = mdayonliner - page 2. (Read 4155 times)

Retina posted 12/17 posts in WO thread today, looks like merit hunting. Many posts are really short one liners, seems like to welcome people lately. Speaking off...

Is always morning in Bangladesh?






Sounds like double edged sword.

With mdayonliner  getting banned, it will be interesting to see if the other two people continue posting and if so if they end up banned with a ban evasion ban.

If they stop posting, it is fairly strong evidence they are the same. If they continue posting but don’t get banned, then there might be an argument they are different people. If they continue posting and get a ban evasion ban, it will be almost certain they are the same.

I'll respond to mdayonliner's completely off topic post in this thread here because I think what he said is relevant:

Deleted post:





I'll keep an eye out for it.


Well at least you can see that this is an alt with a clear agenda, so I'll give you that. Whoever it is is another debate but I wouldn't at all  be surprised if this account is just you being an idiot with some sort of preemptive defence by outing it so you can further whine like a baby about the situation and get some more drama out of it.

Just for the record, I'm not at all saying Mulann2 is his account and wouldn't have even thought so but mday's behaviour here in publicly drawing comparisons between the two is a little suspect and seems a bit too desperate to be noticed in my opinion.

Good to see the bump. And the answer for this moron is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50271809

Good luck.

What does anyone think about these new revelations:

As with the op, I suspected these two were one and the same for a couple of weeks now but sat on the info, but as you can see it's identical behaviour to the evidence presented in the op.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/retina-2508950  Retina

All the hallmarks of an alt here at least. New account, straight into Meta fishing for merits: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49204705

Second post on the forum and already getting involved with a knowledge of Lauda and the drama surrounding her him? Woo-woo, call the alt police.

Snippy tilde snips:


Bengali:


Red arrows and boxes again:



mdayonliner talking to the user here:


Is this really another innocent case of someone trying to "imitate" the highly influential mdayonliner? Even though this is all exactly the same "evidence"/behaviour which brought them them to my attention before this is obviously almost certainly probably not an alt, but perhaps a "friend" of mdayonliner that he doesn't yet know about his account here because it's top secret, but he has probably met in real life and just doesn't know it yet  .

Also as was the case before, mdayonliner has now chosen to merit the account which just seems like guilty behaviour to me and if true is yet another case of merit abuse from him.

Let's say mdayonliner did not know S_Therapist then he must have known utlptc or pkmoney or Jrashid!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5098276 <------------

Whatever evidence presented here, I am still believe that both account holder is same person or post's made by same person.
For example: If I got tag or ban for any reason and I create a new account then how will determine that new account holder is me? Because I know almost forum rules and behaviours, I can easily skip all the things. But really can I change my posting behaviour since my native language isn't English? Everyone can easily trace me that who am I. So many coincidences can't happen with 2 account. That's the reason I can't skip easily if I create new account.

But still we don't tag for alt account. S_Therapist self admitted regarding his previous account and he got tag as well.

This still isn't proof of anything and you're attacking a connection someone else made to tie other accounts together. You're complaining at me for not having concrete proof but are just making even lesser claims about other things.


Because that's what I still believe is likely the case. Would you like me to change it to "[I believe] S_Therapist = mdayonliner"? The only thing that is laugh out loud about this is you trying to convince everyone you had absolutely no idea who the S_Therapist account was which is utter bullshit.

You're still forgetting the fact that 4 different people independently had a very good suspicion that you two might be the same just going by the way you type and act. What are the chances of that. Out of the thousands of users here we make the connection and then it actually turns out you know each other in real life. Out of the 7.5 billion people on earth we spotted two on a forum that know each other in real life but only that comes to light when they're accused of being the same. What are the odds!? Astronomical. You're either very likely the same person or you've written posts for or under that account, but this is obviously something you'll never admit to so you'll cling to that uncertainty for dear life. The whole I didn't know who the account was is preposterous. You have a friend here and he knows your account but for some reason you don't know his and never thought to ask. Come the fuck on. Stop taking people for idiots. We can spot your "friend" but you can't? You lied so much to try get away from the merit abuse that it just took you down a a huge hole of desperation you had to try claw your way back out from but that's all you've got to run with now.


I think this is plausible (and that they've likely shared accounts or mday made content for him to post (and merit), but they're never going to admit to this now as they've come out with their story and are going to have to stick to it. One of them even referred to the other account as 'brother' recently but I can't find it now. Was something along the lines of "thank you, brother", but of course it could have been used in a friendly way and not literally.

Ok, I have to ask this in 2 threads.
Is S_Therapist your brother's new account? That would actually explain everything.

This was his last post(September 19.):



Also, for the record, account kawser05 is connected IIRC in another investigation thread.

Two more new evidences (better say angles) to observe the case: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5098276

Thank you but you don't have to be, it's ok.

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And how about if you create a new guy saying S_Therapist = mdayonliner? You have seen the DC character superman in movies but we have a bitcoinTalk superman here 

mdayonliner, I'm sorry for whatever personal issues you were going through but as others have said posting screenshots (and everything else) of two random people making calls doesn't prove anything and is even more circumstantial than my 'evidence' or claims. In fact, it's less than that because it only holds any weight if we believe your narrative in the first place.


There probably won't ever be one unless some damning evidence comes to light such as linked wallet transactions or some other info so at the moment it's just he said she said and likely will be until the end of time. I'll leave my final 'conclusion' here: I think that regardless of whether these accounts are 'true' alts or not (which we probably won't know unless he admits it) mday has personally made posts for the account in some capacity whether he was/is in control of it or someone else. I really don't buy that he didn't know who the account was until this accusation. It doesn't even make sense and I think he just came out with this to try distance himself from the merit abuse which he obviously would have been found guilty of if he admitted he knew the account. Let's assume the account technically isn't 'his' alt i.e someone else created and controls it, then he probably sent them posts he'd wrote up in an attempt for them to get merit. Before I even knew they were Bangladeshi or had spotted any other similarities I suspected they might be the same just from their posts alone. For that to happen you have to be pretty much trying to purposely emulate someone or it be a massive coincidence. If the account technically isn't his then it's probably his buddies or maybe brothers (and he was well aware of that), but I'm pretty sure some of the content has come from him at some point whether he posted it personally or not. Of course, this is still all speculation and opinion but we're never really going to know one way or another and I suspect mday will stick to his narrative whether it be true or not.

In fact the graph proves exactly the opposite. Situations where a user posts only once per month with his alt while being active with the other account are very common, especially if one account is employed by a signature campaign while the other isn't. Usually alt owners like to use their alts from time to time to make it look like the accounts aren't abandoned and/or bump some threads, or back up their own posts. So, that flat blue line with small spikes on it couldn't be more normal for an alt account, it doesn't disprove the claim at all.

Where one person sees something random, another will see a pattern. There are days where both of the accounts are very active, and there are days where only one of them is active, while other is taking a break. It doesn't prove anything. For example, you can posts with both accounts one day, then on the next day see that you got some replies in the thread where you've posted with one of the accounts, log in with that one and continue the discussion, hence on the graph one account gets a spike while the other doesn't.

As for the hours when they were active, it's also hard to read anything as s_therapist is active in both day and night (which to me is crazy, does he ever sleep? Ok, he does, at 10-11 am ).

Sure thing

Here are the graphs for each of them

S_Therapist


utlptc


Jrashid  


pkmoney

pkmoney is very odd itself it was dormant since its registration in Jan-13. Then it was active from Nov-13 to May-14 but slept again until May-18 (I guess that's when it was hacked and purchased). Then it remain active for three months only from May-18 to Jul-18 and it is silent since then.

Since we assume it was controlled by different people, so here are the two graphs for it's active periods of Nov-13 to May-14 and May-18 to Jul-18.

pkmoney -May-18 to Jul-18


pkmoney -Nov-13 to May-14



For the comparison graph i tried but it was really odd since all these accounts were active in different dates. See below number posts per month from Dec-2017 to Jan 2019

_Date_		S_Therapist	utlptc	Jrashid	pkmoney
Jan-19		145	3	0	0
Dec-18		34	2	0	0
Nov-18		211	1	10	0
Oct-18		191	39	45	0
Sep-18		0	59	79	0
Aug-18		0	1	57	0
Jul-18		0	37	6	16
Jun-18		0	49	0	49
May-18		0	78	0	63
Apr-18		0	73	0	0
Mar-18		0	99	0	0
Feb-18		0	72	0	0
Jan-18		0	23	0	0
Dec-17		0	9	0	0

You can see it was only month of Oct-18 when they all posted together except for pkmoney.

So I did compare the month of Oct-18, and here is the result. (Graph was very wide so I had to split it)


https://imgur.com/bzROXmH


https://imgur.com/TF0wmSU

Well I'm not sure if you can make something out of it :p

By whom?  All the evidence has been presented and feedback has been given, so it's up to everyone to read it and make up their own minds about it.  It looks like the consensus among the members who've posted here is that they are alts, and I suspect that's the case.  Do I know that for a fact?  Not really.  Everything mdayonliner presented as far as phone screenshots and the like could be doctored--or they could be genuine.

I've seen enough shenanigans and lying on this forum to be jaded enough to disbelieve anyone on a matter like this, even if they're trusted.  And when you factor in the fact that S_Therapist is a documented account buyer with other alt accounts, it would not surprise me in the least if mdayonliner was an alt.  I don't like the fact that mdayonliner's stated relationship with S_Therapist changed as time went along.  Seems like he was trying to hide something there. 

In any case, I'm pretty sure the reputations of both accounts are irreparably shot and I agree with others who've said that presenting all of this evidence is pointless.  None of it proves beyond a doubt that the two accounts represent two separate individual human beings.

I have to revisit thread to see how things are going because I do actually miss S_Therapist write ups. He isn't that active any more and the worst part is even though the Alt account red tags get removed (that's if he's found not guilty) he already has other tags that can't be removed like account farming
This was one of those accounts that inspired me.

Have any final conclusion been gaven or this is still an accusation?.

Edit:
Thanks for the clarification. I'm kinda new to all these trust feedback of a thing and just trying to understand them better. I thought the DT1/2 members or so have a final say but now I understand everyone can use feedback as a point of reference and give their judgement

Can you do this for:

S_Therapist https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/stherapist-2423416
utlptc https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/utlptc-1460928
Jrashid  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jrashid-2313339
pkmoney https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pkmoney-156044

And this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49261455 ?

Thanks at least you are rethinking.

Congrats brother. I wish things were different. I am sorry.

If you look at the posting time by dividing in two range, you will get different scenerio.
4th October to 27th November and 28th November to the rest.
The data provided by shah(can't remember the whole) shows the average posting time of my account. Before 27th November, I used to sleep late at night, sometimes even in 3,4,5 am while later 27th November, I started to live an usual life because I had joined in a job and that's why I had to sleep early like 11/11.30pm at maximum.
Anyway, this will not bring any benefit to this case, IMO.

I read all replies in this topic before replying, but for me it wasn't enough to be sure who is right here - hilariousandco or you. Things like screenshot of phone call history doesn't prove anything.
First I want to say I'm so sorry for a loss of your father - let him rest in peace. And congratulations for a birth of your children!
After shahzadafzal posted stats about your and S_Therapist activity I would say that you're not alts. But it's just my opinion, I may be not right.
But one thing looks quite strange in this story - why S_Therapist stopped to defend himself. Maybe he just give up on this account. Proving that he isn't alt of you will not fix his reputation because he is already tagged for other shady things. Wouldn't be surprised if he will start with new account soon.
And maybe it's stupid prediction, but I think it's possible that his account is controlled by more than one person. I just don't believe that normal people can live almost without sleep.