Topic: StonerStanley Retarded Attempt At Extortion - page 3. (Read 1183 times)

Exclude ABitNut from your trust list and appeal to others to do so if you have a strong case. Don't send PMs to people asking them to modify their trust lists for your benefit, but most importantly don't use red trust in this situation - it won't resolve your issue... we have enough bullshit retaliatory ratings courtesy of OgNasty and other morons.

I definitely understand the situation and what you did is absolutely wrong.
Let me just give an example.
If I included LoyceV in my trust list, and LoyceV wrongfully left you a negative feedback, do you think it's morally right for you to leave me a negative feedback just because LoyceV is in my trust list ...that's exactly what you are doing... TECshare hasn't scammed you, has he?

Stop misusing trust ratings.

I'll remove it when he will remove ABitNut from the trust list because ABitNut is not a trustable person since he gave me a negative feedback for no reason and that i don't deserve a negative feedback. That is the TECshare fault if ABitNut is in this list. And anyway he talked to me like a little kid and a puppet, he disrespect me. I don't even understand how this guy can get a merit for this post with all he did.
Everything are in my "My Messages", any moderators can see how he talked to me like a puppet and how he disrespect the forum.

The fail is when you don't even understand the situation but you talk about it.


At the begginning i contacted TECShare but he talked to me like a puppet and a kid, told me to shut my mouth while trying to help me at the same time (he should start to learn how to control himself before trying to control a keyboard). I made a thread to ask why i have a negative reputation at the same time and he took it personnally because he understood his fault, he tried to defend his own reputation using me and i repeat: he told me to shut my mouth.

You are moderator? Check my private messages, and check how he talked to me.

I already read your link.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

The purpose of retaliatory feedback is not amelioration of the situation. No, it is a grasp for pride - a meaningless pursuit of restitution - vengeance fuels further vengeance and begets suffering on both ends. Familiar with the tragedy of the commons? Even better, model it as a prisoner's dilemma with a trust matrix and you'll start to understand.

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Regardless of the instigator, if you choose to continue a pointless battle, you have no one to blame but yourself. Further coercion of other participants only drags the battle onward until you decide to finally step back, take a look at the bigger picture, and cease the indignant whining.

Let me summarize what happened for anyone who doesn't bother to read the thread or still doesn't follow after reading. Just before the thread linked above occurred, I was added back to the default trust list. His rating from ABitNut then became visible. StonerStanley PMed me asking for assistance.



I then replied in the thread, first asking StonerStanley to remove the retaliatory rating he left, then attempting to contact ABitNut to see if he was willing to reconsider his rating. In the middle of this process, the usual clown car, now seeing I was on the default trust list again, and managed to just resolve a dispute involving several of the members of the Turkish community who they were actively trying to get removed from having any influence in the trust system, organized their usual 3 ring circus in an attempt to derail this mutually restorative solution I was attempting to mediate. They then used the thread as a venue to try to discredit me with fairy tales, fictions, and assumptions carefully crafted to impugn my character completely unrelated to the thread.

As a result one or two members then excluded me from their trust lists, specifically citing the accusations made in this thread, thus again removing me from the default trust list, and again making ABitNuts trust rating not visible. At this point StonerStanley got what he wanted, and didn't give a shit that my attempts to help him were being used as a vector of attack against me. He rejected my advice, became very indignant and rude, and then started attacking me himself. At this point, as he was the one asking me for help, and asking for my involvement, I rightfully told him to go fuck himself. He, not having any clue how the trust system worked, assumed he got everything he wanted and was happy to spit in the face of the only person actually trying to help him.

That brings us to now, when I am again back on the default trust list, and his negative rating from ABitNut is again visible, and he is upset because I refuse to comply with his demands after the way he acted, and essentially using his own negative ratings against me in a lame attempt to try to force me to remove ABitNut from my trust list.

TL;DR: He asked for help. I tried to help. He thought he got what he wanted, talked mad shit, attacked me, I suffered a hit to my own reputation as a result of the cumulative lies and attacks, and I told him to go fuck himself and that he would get no further assistance from me.

Sending negative feedback because someone distrusted you is totally wrong... It's total abuse of the trust system and i would advise you to remove it because thing might backfire on you soon if other DT members start tagging you for sending unnecessary feedback.

A trust list is mostly based on what someone personally thinks of other people. You can't force them to change their opinion about you. You should have addressed this issue in another otherwise this is a fail.

You're going at this the wrong way. Please start by reading LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (translated into 12 different languages, which shows broad community support for what I wrote).
First: anyone can include or exclude anyone they want. This isn't moderated, but more importantly: you shouldn't take it personally!
Anyone can also leave anyone any feedback they want. This too isn't moderated. However, if you ever want your feedback to mean something (by reaching DefaulTrust), you'll need others to include you, which they may do if they think you leave valid feedback.

Again: you're taking the wrong approach. You could discuss this in a new Reputation thread, but none of this is a reason to leave negative feedback.

TECSHARE included ABitNut more than a year ago. The only thing that changed is that TECSHARE reached DT1 recently.

I don't know. If you open a new topic for this, I'm willing to look into the evidence. But it still doesn't justify negative feedback.

I gave him a negative feedback because he put my name in the distrust list for no reason and he did the same with my second account Virtualis Games for no reason.

He put my name in the distrust list because i was trying to explain myself about a situation where TECshare made an error but TECshare was trying to make me close my mouth like a dishonest person. He put "ABitNut" in the trust list but this user abused of the feedback system since he gave me a negative feedback for "multi account" without any reason (muti account and what ? it makes me a scammer ?)

TECshare was playing a personal fight against "Vod" and others users while trying to "help me", but apparently it was more about his reputation than to really help me, as you can see right now again because it would be simplier to remove ABitNut from the list than making a thread, since ABitNut isn't  able to explain him.

So what if i make another account to present my project ? i'll get a negative feedback because i have another account to present my project and i'll get a big red ribbon saying that i'm a probable scammer. Nice.

He is suddenly bothered because some one in my trust list has given him a negative rating previously, and since I have recently rejoined the default trust list, this is now visible on his account. He doesn't understand how any of this works. You might want to read this thread for further context: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-abuser-gave-me-a-negative-feedback-5182530

He gave you negative feedback simply for distrusting him ? I don't know the history between you 2 but kind of agree that it's messed up.

Also what impact does the trust/distrust hold other  than being able to see more clearly the people who get tagged by them ? Is there something else that I'm missing ?

I got this wonderful PM today. Clearly he is learning from the example being set around here by the clown car. Behold, your retarded manipulative offspring.


StonerStanley   2020-03-19      "liar and manipulator"


~StonerStanley
~Virtualis Games