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Topic: Stop your BTC cheerleading and mass delusion and face the reality - page 4. (Read 10175 times)

sr. member
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Stop trolling. I paid $25 to transfer $100 once via Western Union.
You pay a fee with banks as well, stop selling a fake story.

Of course you did.  And I've paid $50 for a coke.  There are stupid ways of sending money, and they are expensive.  Western Union is not how normal fiat transactions are done.  Certainly not how a billion-dollar transaction would be done.  If you know someone who tried to send a billion dollars via WU, give me his addy--I got some Bitcoin to sell him Smiley

If your bank charges you for writing checks and using a debit card, I suspect you have stumbled upon a fiat equivalent of Neo Bee.

Yes I did. I'm pretty sure that people would rather believe me than you, and it's obvious why.
I could ask them to dig up the records easily.

And I paid $50 for a coke--not joking.  Well, sort'a a joke at the time--last can of coke in the house, long story.  That's not the point tho.  The point, for the slow-to-grasp, is this:
Western Union is not normally used to transact in fiat.  Cash, checks, debit, and credit cards are.  Those are free to use, thus cheaper than Bitcoin, where every transaction costs something.
You asked for your example to be shown as shit, it was.  I did.
Instead of thanking me for the lesson like a reasonable human being, you chose to sperge Undecided

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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/microsoft-now-accepts-bitcoin-bitpay/
But wait, OP and his crew are the smart ones. We, along with the executives of Microsoft are the delusional ones.  Roll Eyes

Lol, I'd accept wooden nickels, as long as some payment processor took these wood chips & turned them into USD before i had to touch them.

Enjoy the pump, hope you had fun!


legendary
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#Free market
A world with the money can not be perfect [BCNext]. It is  simple....
newbie
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Just because Satoshi said it, doesn't make it true, it was just his personal opinion.

You gotta be kidding me. This is the written statement by a man who created bitcoin. You need a head check buddy.



And IBM once said "there is the need for only 1 computer in the world".

Bill Gates once said "we will never make a 32bit operating system".

DEC Chairman Ken Olsen said "no one would want a personal computer in their home".

Your Point?

All the above are very rich and successful people/corporations who made mistakes in their predictions hardly proves anything does it?
legendary
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Monero - secure, private and untraceable currency.
Must say Sam's very close-minded person + it's probably throw-away account just for trolling. Yeah, I want it to drop to ~310 so I can buy it, but I don't fail to see the great future for Bitcoin.
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Stop trolling. I paid $25 to transfer $100 once via Western Union.
You pay a fee with banks as well, stop selling a fake story.

Of course you did.  And I've paid $50 for a coke.  There are stupid ways of sending money, and they are expensive.  Western Union is not how normal fiat transactions are done.  Certainly not how a billion-dollar transaction would be done.  If you know someone who tried to send a billion dollars via WU, give me his addy--I got some Bitcoin to sell him Smiley

If your bank charges you for writing checks and using a debit card, I suspect you have stumbled upon a fiat equivalent of Neo Bee.

Yes I did. I'm pretty sure that people would rather believe me than you, and it's obvious why.
I could ask them to dig up the records easily.


https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/microsoft-now-accepts-bitcoin-bitpay/
But wait, OP and his crew are the smart ones. We, along with the executives of Microsoft are the delusional ones.  Roll Eyes

if it dumps on the news it'll dump hard. Amazing how everyone is in instant bubblemode immediately. I think we will be back to this and other threads in about 10 to 15 days.
legendary
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Terminated.
Stop trolling. I paid $25 to transfer $100 once via Western Union.
You pay a fee with banks as well, stop selling a fake story.

Of course you did.  And I've paid $50 for a coke.  There are stupid ways of sending money, and they are expensive.  Western Union is not how normal fiat transactions are done.  Certainly not how a billion-dollar transaction would be done.  If you know someone who tried to send a billion dollars via WU, give me his addy--I got some Bitcoin to sell him Smiley

If your bank charges you for writing checks and using a debit card, I suspect you have stumbled upon a fiat equivalent of Neo Bee.

Yes I did. I'm pretty sure that people would rather believe me than you, and it's obvious why.
I could ask them to dig up the records easily.


https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/microsoft-now-accepts-bitcoin-bitpay/
But wait, OP and his crew are the smart ones. We, along with the executives of Microsoft are the delusional ones.  Roll Eyes
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hero member
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I have shared. But i get tired of digging through my archives to provide links. I have provided more links than any man on earth, yet nothing ever comes from it.

I suppose if you are keenly interested, you will dig. Find the discussion about creating a better Tor network and using micropayments to eliminate the Sybil attack that exists on Tor.

Sorry Cryptonote ring sigs are not anonymous if your IP is not also. I have holistic designs in mind. But it is too much I think for one man to implement by himself.
If you are not keen on digging links, why advertize your previous posts? The signal/noise ratio is simply too low here to go on digging people's post history just because they claim to have made useful contributions which in the vast majority of cases turns out not to be the case.
newbie
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microsoft just accepted bitcoin.
Is this discussion even relevant now ?
full member
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sounds like u'want to scared us :p u can encourge people don't broke their hope...anway i am 2/3 agree with you.....
full member
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freequant, I am not ignoring you, but I think I partially answered in my prior post. And I would much rather accomplish than talk. But I can't promise I will. If there is any serious group of capable developers that want to PM me, I do read. But I mean capable. Someone of smooth's caliber, but with more time to invest in it full-time.

And this is risky. Much easier to create a pump-and-dump than to really take on this challenge.
If you don't share your ideas there is no ground to start from. But you know that already.

I have shared. But i get tired of digging through my archives to provide links. I have provided more links than any man on earth, yet nothing ever comes from it.

I suppose if you are keenly interested, you will dig. Find the discussion about creating a better Tor network and using micropayments to eliminate the Sybil attack that exists on Tor.

Sorry Cryptonote ring sigs are not anonymous if your IP is not also. I have holistic designs in mind. But it is too much I think for one man to implement by himself.
hero member
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freequant, I am not ignoring you, but I think I partially answered in my prior post. And I would much rather accomplish than talk. But I can't promise I will. If there is any serious group of capable developers that want to PM me, I do read. But I mean capable. Someone of smooth's caliber, but with more time to invest in it full-time.

And this is risky. Much easier to create a pump-and-dump than to really take on this challenge.
If you don't share your ideas there is no ground to start from. But you know that already.
hero member
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The blackswan is an altcoin that escapes this dilemma. I believe I explained that the only way I can see it will be done, is by latching on to the Knowledge Age because of some feature that its needs that requires they not use the unit-of-account of the masses. I actually have an idea for this already. And I have shared it on the forums.

there is actually a few people roaming the forum with the same message. They all get ignored and laughed at normally. It's just not in the realm of the possible for 99% of the people around here.



That is called the problem of induction and is the very cognitive dead angle that is leading the whole financial industry in the very same wall at the end of every economic cycle. What's the point of aiming to take over Wall Street if we are not any wiser?
full member
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freequant, I am not ignoring you, but I think I partially answered in my prior post. And I would much rather accomplish than talk. But I can't promise I will. If there is any serious group of capable developers that want to PM me, I do read. But I mean capable. Someone of smooth's caliber, but with more time to invest in it full-time.

And this is risky. Much easier to create a pump-and-dump than to really take on this challenge.
hero member
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How the fuck does this serious monetary theory discussion end up on the Speculation forum? Hey moderators, move this thread to the Economics forum.
I second this. For the sake of Bitcoin itself if not for the sake of intellectual completeness, it's about time to stop acting as solipsistic ostriches and start looking at the competitive landscape. Failing to do so is a short cut to expedited extinction.
member
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The blackswan is an altcoin that escapes this dilemma. I believe I explained that the only way I can see it will be done, is by latching on to the Knowledge Age because of some feature that its needs that requires they not use the unit-of-account of the masses. I actually have an idea for this already. And I have shared it on the forums.

there is actually a few people roaming the forum with the same message. They all get ignored and laughed at normally. It's just not in the realm of the possible for 99% of the people around here.

hero member
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Merit: 500
The blackswan is an altcoin that escapes this dilemma. I believe I explained that the only way I can see it will be done, is by latching on to the Knowledge Age because of some feature that its needs that requires they not use the unit-of-account of the masses. I actually have an idea for this already. And I have shared it on the forums.
I'm interested. Can you share or PM me the link?
full member
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freequant, in How Bitcoin Dies, moldbug's point is block chain is perfect, except for one flaw. It can't survive politically. It is unknown yet whether some dark coin will provide the features necessary to resist takeover by the population-at-large which is not prepared for the lurch into the Knowledge Age (Oxford U. predicts 47% of current jobs to be replaced by automation before 2032). Thus the masses are going to support the government take over of Bitcoin and a monetary unit which serves their needs to steal from the productive and award to the weak and helpless. This is socialism.

The blackswan is an altcoin that escapes this dilemma. I believe I explained that the only way I can see it will be done, is by latching on to the Knowledge Age because of some feature that its needs that requires they not use the unit-of-account of the masses. I actually have an idea for this already. And I have shared it on the forums.

But nobody pays attention. Which is fine.
full member
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Satoshi Nakamoto that Bitcoin will either absorb the total global economy which stands at $100 trillion now, or will cease to exist. Do you understand that the man who created Bitcoin is saying that there is no middle ground?


So again, the creator of Bitcoin has stated on record - written statement that BTC will either gobble up the whole of global economy or fail and cease to exist. The middle ground does not exist according to Satoshi Nakamoto. You may argue with me, but this is not me just making up things it is the quote / paraphrase of Satoshi's statement. This is one of the most important statements about bitcoin and yet everybody wants to avoid any talk about it.

Here's something to wrap your head around: people are fallible.  So what if S. Nakamoto made that statement, it doesn't make it a foregone conclusion.



dropt, you are starting to talk in contradictions. I hope you are well. Is a full failure in bitcoin in your event horizon? If not: recalibrate.
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