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legendary
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an alternative solution could be DEVs take extra 5-10 million tokens for development if 1000 btc is not reached.

I was thinking the same thing.  If dev's have faith in their project, the extra Stratis will be worth way more than the remaining btc's needed to meet the 1000btc.
sr. member
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an alternative solution could be DEVs take extra 5-10 million tokens for development if 1000 btc is not reached.
full member
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Currently 219 BTC invested. Krushang, is it really necessary to have 1000 BTC. Will be even with a longer period difficult to achieve.
sr. member
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A problem I have with this is that by choosing this method of ICO where investors split a fixed amount of coins, investors assume the risk of not knowing beforehand what % of equity they will receive, along with the upside they may end up with a larger position if the total raised is smaller, while the project assumes the risk of not raising as much as they would like, along with the upside of possibly raising a lot more than they would with a fixed price and total distribution. By introducing this minimum threshold after the ICO has started, they are limiting their downside at the expense of the investors who in turn are having their potential upside limited. So adding this option of cancelling the project comes at the expense of the investors, with an accompanying potential opportunity cost of not having access to their funds until refunded if the project is cancelled. This possible outcome should have been in the original terms of the ICO.
hero member
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what other ICO?

There will certainly not be another ICO.

How about your project failed to get 1000 btc fund? If extension still can't get that amount and i think you will refund us? so all of your tough job will be void if you won't host a new ICO?
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Seems like if there was a fixed amount of BTC needed for a budget, it would have been better to sell the tokens at a fixed price, like 0.0000125 BTC each for a total of 1K BTC for 80,000,000 tokens sold, and just let the ICO run until they are sold out. A minimum of 1K BTC needing to be raised wasn't mentioned in the OP or ICO terms, guess I'd have to dig through a bunch of posts to see where it was first mentioned as a requirement to move the project forward.

This seems like a decent idea.  Running the ICO until tokens are sold out may not be in everyone's best interest though. Especially in a case where it may extend the ICO period significantly. From an investors perspective I would much rather Invest in an ICO with a concrete open and close date so I can feel a little more comfortable knowing I will have access to "My Investment" at a specific time.  Where as an ICO that runs until sell out can drag out for months and have investors BTC tied up for long periods of time and create cranky investors (Nobody likes those)

Yes, might be better to have a refund option during the ICO for those who feel it is taking too long. Another option is to have a deadline to meet the minimum funding threshold, like Kickstarter.

In any event, the 1K minimum for Stratis needs to be put in the OP and ICO terms. I would not have tied up the funds if there was a possibility of the project not going forward because there was a minimum funding requirement and having to wait for however long refunds might take, would have instead waited until near the end of the ICO to invest when sure that it would go through.
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The Stratis ICO is LIVE

https://ico.stratisplatform.com


With a 5% bonus.

Only 48 hours left to receive a 5% bonus.
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what other ICO?

There will certainly not be another ICO.
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https://ironx.io IRONX
Seems like if there was a fixed amount of BTC needed for a budget, it would have been better to sell the tokens at a fixed price, like 0.0000125 BTC each for a total of 1K BTC for 80,000,000 tokens sold, and just let the ICO run until they are sold out. A minimum of 1K BTC needing to be raised wasn't mentioned in the OP or ICO terms, guess I'd have to dig through a bunch of posts to see where it was first mentioned as a requirement to move the project forward.

This seems like a decent idea.  Running the ICO until tokens are sold out may not be in everyone's best interest though. Especially in a case where it may extend the ICO period significantly. From an investors perspective I would much rather Invest in an ICO with a concrete open and close date so I can feel a little more comfortable knowing I will have access to "My Investment" at a specific time.  Where as an ICO that runs until sell out can drag out for months and have investors BTC tied up for long periods of time and create cranky investors (Nobody likes those)
hero member
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The ICO looks to be getting a respectable amount of interest.  Sorry if this has been asked and I missed it.  Is there a minimum target amount of btc needed to proceed with the project?  How much is needed to finance Nicolas Dorier to work on this project.  And is there a time frame for for when this work will be completed or is it open ended?  I take it that nothing has been started yet at this time and that the ICO is needed to fund development.  I'm trying to understand when any work towards this project will likely start and when we could expect a release of any kind.  Not an exact date but at least some kind of timetable would be nice.  If enough isn't raised for Nicolas Dorier to perform the work is there a backup plan to enlist other developers?

Hey, just to confirm it here, I will work on Stratis Bitcoin full node implementation if Stratis manage to raise enough for financing my work.
This will be a bitcoin full node, based on NBitcoin. Easier to debug, compile, and change on your own.





There is not official minimum amount. However, no less than 1000 BTC would be required to develop this platform and to build our sales, business development and marketing team. This is the minimum amount required to have the capabilities required to make this project a success. In the unlikely scenario that we did not exceed this amount, we would refund all investors. I am confident that we will exceed this amount.

The end to end platform will be complete in November. Correct, Nicolas is ready to start working asap. I guess it would be easier if we was just cloning someone else's code.

We will release a beta wallet based on Bitcoin Core, within two weeks after the ICO closes. This will allow people to withdraw their Stratis tokens from the ICO platform and hold them in wallet, removing the need to trust anyone with your tokens. This wallet will not include our private chain tech, which will be available in our Full Node framework, when its released.

I dont see it as an option to utilize other developers to complete Nicolas's work, you only have to Google Nicolas to see that hes a top blockchain developer. I would not have the neccesary trust in anyone elses ability outside of Bitcoin Core development to complete this delivery. I dont think it has registered for some, but outside of Ethereum, I dont see any other projects with such talent on the team.


First mentioned on the thread on 24 June and on our slack
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Seems like if there was a fixed amount of BTC needed for a budget, it would have been better to sell the tokens at a fixed price, like 0.0000125 BTC each for a total of 1K BTC for 80,000,000 tokens sold, and just let the ICO run until they are sold out. A minimum of 1K BTC needing to be raised wasn't mentioned in the OP or ICO terms, guess I'd have to dig through a bunch of posts to see where it was first mentioned as a requirement to move the project forward.

looks good but already running, so it may work for the other ICO if the first ICO doesn't meet the requirement.
sr. member
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Seems like if there was a fixed amount of BTC needed for a budget, it would have been better to sell the tokens at a fixed price, like 0.0000125 BTC each for a total of 1K BTC for 80,000,000 tokens sold, and just let the ICO run until they are sold out. A minimum of 1K BTC needing to be raised wasn't mentioned in the OP or ICO terms, guess I'd have to dig through a bunch of posts to see where it was first mentioned as a requirement to move the project forward.
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That is still an option the team is thinking. If you continuously repeat the same question then it makes no sense cause he already said that they can give a clear answer after the ICO ends. Not to mention that it looks ridiculous to break the terms of the ICO but i dont think repeating claims is any helpful either.

we need a clear answer so that more investors will come, including me, i don't invest a project if the terms are changing everyday.   Sad Angry  And never seen any terms about extension.

The situation will be much clearer when the ICO over. If the ICO is successful investors won't receive a refund. As I mentioned an option is to extend the ICO if the funds invested is not sufficient enough for the Stratis project. A trusted escrow service is in place to protect our investors. It's quite simple, why would we not provide a refund if the Stratis project won't be moving forward.

I will decide to invest or not before ICO ending, I think your team has BTC core dev which is awesome and very attractive. There are 2 weeks ongoing, just wait.  Cheesy

1K should be very reasonable if you have so many competent devs, compared to waves team. They got benefits during DAO crazy crowdfunding period. But you will have brighter future than waves.

Where did the 1K BTC figure come from? I didn't see any mention of a minimum funding threshold mentioned in the ICO terms. The project looks like it has promise, and I put some BTC in, and was considering more, but changing terms after ICO has started is cause for concern.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15554770
sr. member
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That is still an option the team is thinking. If you continuously repeat the same question then it makes no sense cause he already said that they can give a clear answer after the ICO ends. Not to mention that it looks ridiculous to break the terms of the ICO but i dont think repeating claims is any helpful either.

we need a clear answer so that more investors will come, including me, i don't invest a project if the terms are changing everyday.   Sad Angry  And never seen any terms about extension.

The situation will be much clearer when the ICO over. If the ICO is successful investors won't receive a refund. As I mentioned an option is to extend the ICO if the funds invested is not sufficient enough for the Stratis project. A trusted escrow service is in place to protect our investors. It's quite simple, why would we not provide a refund if the Stratis project won't be moving forward.

I will decide to invest or not before ICO ending, I think your team has BTC core dev which is awesome and very attractive. There are 2 weeks ongoing, just wait.  Cheesy

1K should be very reasonable if you have so many competent devs, compared to waves team. They got benefits during DAO crazy crowdfunding period. But you will have brighter future than waves.

Where did the 1K BTC figure come from? I didn't see any mention of a minimum funding threshold mentioned in the ICO terms. The project looks like it has promise, and I put some BTC in, and was considering more, but changing terms after ICO has started is cause for concern.
hero member
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The OP had been updated with published news articles and translations.
hero member
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Hi dev,

Where is the code of Project STRATIS?

Give me u code link!Github or blabla?

Stratis will be built on NBitcoin the most complete C# Bitcoin Library.

You can check out Nicolas NBitcoin GitHub https://github.com/MetacoSA/NBitcoin
sr. member
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Hi dev,

Where is the code of Project STRATIS?

Give me u code link!Github or blabla?
hero member
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That is still an option the team is thinking. If you continuously repeat the same question then it makes no sense cause he already said that they can give a clear answer after the ICO ends. Not to mention that it looks ridiculous to break the terms of the ICO but i dont think repeating claims is any helpful either.

we need a clear answer so that more investors will come, including me, i don't invest a project if the terms are changing everyday.   Sad Angry  And never seen any terms about extension.

The situation will be much clearer when the ICO over. If the ICO is successful investors won't receive a refund. As I mentioned an option is to extend the ICO if the funds invested is not sufficient enough for the Stratis project. A trusted escrow service is in place to protect our investors. It's quite simple, why would we not provide a refund if the Stratis project won't be moving forward.

I will decide to invest or not before ICO ending, I think your team has BTC core dev which is awesome and very attractive. There are 2 weeks ongoing, just wait.  Cheesy

1K should be very reasonable if you have so many competent devs, compared to waves team. They got benefits during DAO crazy crowdfunding period. But you will have brighter future than waves.
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