Topic: Streamer wins seem too good - page 3. (Read 787 times)

That is something that must be understood because there may be one of the many streamers who gamble properly and do live streaming without promotion but that is only a handful of the many streamers who work for gambling just for the sake of boosting so that the site he promotes gets great interest for beginners. As for those who only follow and are in gambling because some of the closest people or see others profit greatly from gambling, this is actually the wrong action.

We must realize that gambling isn't a business for players indeed this is a business but for those who are behind the scenes and not player. So, Being in gambling just because they see other people making big profits this will only make you disappointed.
First we must realize that gambling is not for business because this is only purely from the luck we get so we cannot be sure that gambling can be profitable for ourselves.
Secondly, we must realize that this will ultimately only spend the money we have sooner or later so the goal in gambling is not to seek profit but to seek pleasure.

Everything is kind of marketing and we need to be aware about the activities of the streamers. We should gamble for fun, which in reality is really hard. If we're rich enough or we have good money to spend this is possible. Next thing we should have the limits, and we should know what happens to a fellow gambler could happen to him. There are good number of people who had got into gambling just because his/her friends turned rich gambling. Good understanding about gambling is a must, if not this is going to be real hard to come out of it.

Another problem to remember is that not all streamers gamble with their money because after all, we must be aware that there are many streamers who are assigned to gamble with certain sites to make it look like the site is good when it is just a marketing trick to bring some new users to the site in question.
They only work not gambling because in the end they only offer sites to play with the simulation of the streamers playing which of course will continue to be won to boost the assumption that the site is indeed good.
Although I agree that large bets will bring greater profits but on the other hand for them streamers things like nothing because in the end they play definitely set to win regardless of the amount of bets they do.

I agree with you on that,  because gambling does not follow a particular pattern and at that one can be taken off guard if he puts so much hope in the luck of another person no matter what the level of success that the streamers have recorded,  as a gambler,  you must be aware of the fact that,  to be copying another gamblers game os the riskiest thing to do at all time and that should be totally avoided,

So for sure,  there os a possibility of making a good use of copy games but then we must have a settled fact that in doing that,  you must know that nothing goes for nothing and gambling is meant to be taken for just fun and at that there is no sure games and at some point,  you have to depend largely on your luck and whatever you can make up of the time to aid the winning.

The chances of a win is higher when the bets are higher. We all know this about casino games especially slots. And just like you I have once won, 110x my wager but never higher. I Keep wondering what's the maximum one can reach. Streamers do this all day long, their wins may be blown out of proportion despite the unknown underlying clauses they may have.

In gambling, everything is based on luck. You can not copy it from someone else and it is not a skill that you can improve over time by doing it over and over again. So following a streamer and trying to get the same luck as them is never an option. And yeah, what they play is rigged. It's a way for casino platforms to lure more people to gamble on their platforms. It is true that we learn many things by watching others do it. We can improve ourselves that way. But as I have already mentioned, it is based on luck. So there's no point in copying others. Especially streamers.

It is just a twisted way of promotion. And those who don't know about it, fall for this scam. Is it genius or a scam? That's up to you to decide. If you can identify it and avoid getting scammed, then it is genius but if you fall for it, it becomes a scam.

Also a streamer wont really be able to reach out that peak popularity or reputation if they were really that loving on decieving people via introducing or streaming out something which is shady.If it turns out that a
particular streamer is winning that much on a known platform/company/site then it is really just that normal that we should be thinking about probabilities yet being that lucky cant be crossed out.
Somehow on the time that the severity of winning is already that turn out to be that excessive then this is where suspicions would really start up on which on the time that winnings are
already that questionable. Well, we can be able to tell about winning that often or big amounts just because on the amount per bet or roll that they had put up is something big on which
on the time that they would make up some hit then it would be that significant. You would be thinking that they are really winning than on losing.

There's no way that we could be able to prove out but rather it would really be that ending up in all assumptions because we know that there's no way that it could really be
happening unless if the site is really that something very new or doesnt have that much reputation then possibility is there, proving out would be the
issue on this kind of situation.

I think it's not just you who feel that there is something strange about the luck that the stremers have, is it by becoming a stremer then it will be able to increase the percentage of our luck? haha that's silly and forget it, basically luck cannot be edited or improved by ourselves, it's not luck if you can bring it so easily.

The amount of money at stake by the stremers is no joke, as you said they risked $100 in each round, if I was in such conditions, or I mean betting with such a large amount it seems I would not be as relaxed as them, of course there is a high level of concern because the risk I take is very high while on the other hand the final result cannot be predicted. Honestly, with what I see from them I have a big suspicion that is still unanswered, it seems like there is a third party helping them, I'm sure some people here know what I mean by third party.

The main question you should ask yourself is why stream if a person is already making great money. At the same time, the tax authorities may have questions - if a person is so successful, why does he pay so little tax? And the organized crime may be interested in -- after all, the man walks on the street.

I find it also strange thar only streamers (on a small amount of just lucky gamblers) win huge amount, get high multipliers or get free spins often. I also find it strange how those streamers make huge bets. I have seen a guy who gambled with $100 in every spin, and  I wasnt surprised, that exactly during their streams and with such huge bet they win a lot. So they during 30-60min stream win several thousands. Just imagine if they luck would last 8h per day, 5 working days per week. Their luck seems so much unbelieveble.

It is because sometimes those streamers are pretty popular like in their own country, so people wouldn't expect that streamer to scam and manipulate people by showing clips or videos online of them winning huge amounts on a gambling game. For that reason, I think it's normal for people to believe them as sometimes they would provide proof of cashout which is totally fake. As a developer for sure you could make an account or the gambling itself to favor you, so if you are planning to catch people's interest and attention, you would literally ask for someone's popularity and give them a rigged account. Streamers would literally accept that offer cause they would be paid by simply promoting their gambling game, mentioning them in their every video, and of course advertisement, they can easily have an alibi by simply telling to people that they are not aware of the scam of the developers.

You are right @ OP, I have had a similar situation at my end around 2016 where I was coming back from work and came across a gathering which I was interested to know about.
While I walked in it was a shuffling card which I got interested to play after seeing lot of person's playing and making winnings.
I was desperate to play the game because it was as simple as I thought it could be when I watched others played and wins but getting to my turn, there was one of the girls in the midsts who signaled me not to get on the game but I didn't understand the facial expressions.
In the first place when I could watch others played and fails, the winning cards where easily for me to identify just like a demo as OP may have said.
So I make a stake and won once which I got impressed and was tempted to stake more for more wins but at the other rounds, the  board man reshuffled the cards and after then I was unable to win any longer til I was totally exhausted to an extend I had no transport fair to get home.

While I frustratedly stood by the road side, one of the girls who signalled me previously who happens to be one of the streamers told me that there is a partiality on the game that on the process of the boardman shuffling the game he ejected out the expected winning card so there would be no way I could guess to point at the right card to win anymore.

She said to me that she tends to tell me about this because her boss haven't been paying them rather he only has them to stream the game in the streets and she also asked me to keep off from such scenarios of gambling because they have branches and some other corners.

I visited the place in about 5days later but they were not there anymore simply because they have ruined and extorted people enough in the areas that only them at the gambling board knows the key to the winning

I once a believer that streamer is not rigged but their frequent winning big before their stream end is kinda scripted already to me including those streamers that hitting big amount while the casino use it as news to attract more players to try is very questionable.

Aside from the streamer is using casino money, They probably use a unique account that already have a program to win big on a certain game once play multiple times. Most of the streamers that I’m watching usually win massive jackpot which is really hard to believe since the probability on hitting it every time they stream is very low yet they make it looks like so easy.

Alright, then give me a proof where the casinos are get audited? where's the financial report?

I'm not talking about the offline casinos, the online casinos especially the crypto casinos. They only have Curacao license, one of the weakest license for casino and even the casino turns scam, the regulator doesn't proceed the casinos and pay the gamblers.

Streamers are playing to promote the gambling sites and in most cases, they are funded by the gambling site to gamble with a lot of money and show their skills to the people and in return people may copy them and lose money.

Streamers' main source of earnings is not from gambling but from the money they either earn from the gambling sites (if they sponsor them) or they get money from the streaming platform where they stream.



I think only the new streamers who are not so popular, may use their own money to gamble while streaming. Once the streamers become popular and have a lot of audiences, then the gambling site's marketing teams may approach the streamers themselves and offer them money to stream their platform.

These are all marketing techniques and the end users that are gamblers should be aware of these tactics.

In my opinion we have to look at Streamers as just people who are playing to show us how certain games work, but we shouldn't copy what Streamers are doing when they play, for example when Streamers put a lot of money into a plinko games section or some another game should not copy this, people should play with small amounts of money, if a person has, for example, a salary of 1000$ per month and only has 20$ per month allocated to play, then that person must manage their resources well. bankroll so that it is possible to play with $20 for 30 days. for people who have a higher salary and allocate much more than 20$ to play, then they have a better chance of winning something and more hours of games during the 30 days

Now when you look at the Streamer cases, things are very different, the Streamer is playing for the business they do, that is, the casinos pay the Streamers to play and when they play they see it as a job, not in the sense that they must make money from gambling, but rather they strive to represent themselves well, that is, they strive to appear as if they are really playing seriously and concerned about victories or defeats, they are fully aware that games of chance are not things to be given profit and focus on their Streamer business. I wonder how many Streamers put money from their pockets into casinos

If we did a survey, we would probably discover that only less than 30% of Streamers are playing with a lot of their own money in casinos. I don't know if when they play with money sponsored by the casino if the games they win are as transparent as when a normal person plays. I say this because if a person takes a camera and films himself playing and wins a lot and the next day the same thing and on other days he wins, and when an ordinary person who plays without filming himself and spends many days without winning anything in the same game as the Streamer plays and wins, so it becomes very suspicious

Thing is, these are only theories as we can't prove that. Also casinos would be risking everything as they are constantly being audited. And we have to also remember that these influencers are playing with insanely large bets, and winning with them will get our attention, but we don't tend to register every lost bet as they slowly pile up. We notice surprisingly big jackpots easily, as hose videos will get shared in social media way more often then someone slowly losing their balance. Because that would be boring to watch and is no interest to anyone.

So getting more retweets for your biggest jackpot, then to your losing streak is understandable. That doesn't mean you are favorited by anyone, but it would look like that, especially if you were looking unconsciously for confirmation bias.

I have stopped listening to or watching streamers for quite a long time now,  and the reason is because of the inability to convince myself that they are not rigged at all times because some of the streamers have shown some level of dissatisfaction in their approach and gameplay that exposes some aspect of the whole show being a possible rigged shows

So for that, gamblers either watch them for the fun and entertainment part of it rather than taking them streamers.

It's true that most communities that like to gamble are not aware of what you are saying, which they are supposed to be aware of as gamblers like us. Now, when it comes to streamers, all of them are actually paid by the casinos that they promote on the social media platform.

And since they are paid, most or all of them use demo accounts, and you will rarely show that they are losing, so they can tell their viewers that they are telling the truth, but the truth is that they are just cheating. The owner is aware of the promotions they are doing; they may be showing that they have already won a lot, but they are not showing that they have actually released it from the casino platform they are promoting. That is what they always do.

I think it's common knowledge that most streamers who have been sponsored by gambling sites have been using special accounts with amped win percentages, to paint the impression that the casino they are playing with is generous with its rewards. It's been like that with xQc as much as he doesn't want to admit it, and countless other twitch streamers before the ban. I say it's so easy for people who have been in this industry to dodge this bullet and be more cautious when watching these streamers, but at the same time, we got newbs who would literally assume that this is how generous crypto casinos are, until they get the beating of a lifetime and realize that all of it was nothing but a marketing tactic meant to fool these people out of their pocket money. Be more vigilant and smart, and of course, know that not all that shines is gold.