Topic: Streamer wins seem too good - page 6. (Read 841 times)

Exactly! With the sponsorship from the casino who provide with a significant amount of bankroll not including the funds that they've deposited, they'll be able to continue gambling for hours during streams and most of their are loses and they also hit jackpots which are highlighted on their channel to garner more viewers and subscribers.

However, I don't exactly think that all gambling streamers are honest as there some streamers who mostly wins and barely lose on most of their livestreams. Possibly some are rigged and some are not.

I was watching this one streamer, Roshtein I think his name is.  He's supposed to be like, one of the biggest gamblers out there.  but lately it seems like he's not even trying with his whole act anymore. and  everything about him is so fake now. But I guess his fans don't care because they just blindly follow whatever he does. 

There was this one time where he forgot to switch off demo mode and you could literally see his fake cash balance on the screen! That was a pretty big giveaway because, as many pointed out later, you normally don't see your real balance when you switch to demo mode. I can't find that video now, it might have been deleted, but you can find a lot of references to it on youtube.

I dont know, in my opinion it feels like they're just exploiting their viewers to make money.  Because the more people watch them play, the more new suckers sign up and lose their money which just pads the streamers' profits.  It's messed up but I guess thats just how the gambling business works nowadays.

I always look at gambling game streamers as advertisers only. What they do ain't real but they are showing the possible things that could happen although we should not be expecting that much in real money playing.
My max win up until now is x1500 and I never had the chance to receive way beyond that either in slots of other games that could surpass that number.
Streamers do surpass it and obviously, they are too good to be true so the chances of receiving the same multi-win as them are very low like playing the lottery with 0.000 something percent to receive the jackpot.
I can already see that just by playing Plinko, my record tells me I have 50k bets that were done in a single day, and yet I have not received the x1000 multi even once. It could take long or it could take short. It will depend on our luck.

Maybe you are right or maybe you are even wrong, because few people have claimed to have use the same casino that streamer use on their video and they played the same game as the streamer and they win good amount of money, someone on this forum also did the same thing, I read through his topic and it's very good example that not all streamers are unreliable, although gambling is a game of luck, and watching streamers online does not guarantee that you will have the same result.

When you watch gambling videos what are you planning to gain out of it? Learn some skills or you want to win like they do? It's true that some of them are winning on the videos and when you gamble the experience will be different, I actually don't have any problem with this because they are simply advertising the casino for the audience, it's a part of shilling the casino name and that's what they do for living, what do you expect?

Don't not put your hopes on live streams that you watch, always know that they are doing this for money, casino stresses are content creators by nature, everyone gets excited when they see the streamer hits highest payout rates, that's the goal of these streaming, create audience and make them fomo into gambling using that exact same casino.

If you are a beginner, do not start gambling through streamers videos because you can easily get addicted to gambling, I just do gambling without knowing that casino streamers exists when I start gambling, and later watching streamers doesn't push me into making bad decisions, if I have no past experience about the dangers of gambling and I start watching casino streamers I will easily become a victim to my own greed, those casino streamers can make someone to get addicted easily.

I have not seen whereby a casino streamer make small gains on their stream, they always hit the numbers you couldn't after many times trying, and they hit the number ones or more, this is why it's suspicious to me, you don't want to get encouraged by streamers, you won't want to quit gambling until you have nothing left.

There are few numbers of legit streamers and you will see that they constantly lose money too, on par with the kind of experience you got while gambling, but some of them have abnormal result in gambling and I believe such games are not to be trusted.

Yes the whistle blowers are not yet here to testify the claim, but the problem or argument began when the people whom they refer don't get such wins like the streamers. And from the look of things, if these streamers only won big, isn't it going to be suspicious on the viewers end. Hence, they'll also make it in such a way that they'll lose big too, to make it real and convincing. On the other hand, nobody cares if they lose huge amount, what gets the eyes of people is the huge amount of money they wager and the returns. Since, it's certain and proven that they work for the casinos, then nothing is wrong with the speculative ideas like what OP stated; being favored by the casino allowing them to win often than they lose. You can't for sure know what's happening behind the scene. The whole processes still boils down to marketing strategy. Who knows, they could be professional gamblers, but the results still looks fishy. Other professionals still complain that users don't get the kind of wins the streamers get, what would you call that? Added with the huge amount these casinos hand out to them, they gamble without any fear of losing out. Giving them confidence to take any prediction within their mind, which may turn out to be true. Aside that, being the possibility. I can't succumb to any other idea that's attached to their enormous wins, if not being on the favor of the casino.

Normally at early we would rather get curious more on how those streamers consecutively win on their bets made but when we experience to follow what they do we can figure out that result will not the same as they. And since there's a lot of claim that they are using demo accounts or the casino itself fund them then it give more clearer picture that those people are just doing that win just for a hype. That's why we shouldn't get attracted with huge gain they get since it seems that its been controlled by casino. Although not all streamers is faking their result since there are streamers who's still reliable and play real. But Majority is been paid that's why I never give weights on the gains they get since I just think about they do that for promotion and those big winnings are used for their followers to get interested to play at the casino they are promoting then try their luck to win the same.

I'd say that most of them truly are for the show but there are a few of them that has names that are for real. Let's take Drake for example, we all know that his bets are for real even if he's advertising a casino or he's an ambassador of it.

While those obvious streamers that are doing it for the sake of sponsorship, all of their wins and balances are for attraction. I think some content creators have exposed a contract from those new casinos that are trying to hire them.

Accounts will be made exactly for them and they'll just video their plays and the algo will be on their favor and let them win and that's what they need to show to the audiences.

We even had a thread here about one streamer losing a huge amount of money and thinking that the casino he played with was rigged, it's just speculation if we think that streamers are playing on a different platform for them to win, we have to prove that they are, but unless we cannot prove that, streamers win whether it may seem to good to be true are considered valid wins, what they are using may be sponsored money but to think that its rigged to the point that they make the streamers win is not the case.
Up until now there have been no expose or whistle-blowers that stated that casinos are making the streamers wins to gain more referrals if there are videos or testimonials then streamers will lose their reputation and they will be considered cheaters.

I rarely watch these streamers play but I have watched them and to be honest, their wins are huge. I think maybe it was set up by the casino so they could get big wins. After all, those streamers use huge amounts of money.

It didn't have any impact on me, especially since I rarely watch the streamer play. I don't even have a favorite streamer so my gambling game doesn't depend on the streamers. I decide when I will play and stop gambling.

If there are people who want to join the streamer in gambling, they must really be able to limit their money. Streamers can spend a lot of money easily and it seems like they never lack money for gambling. Meanwhile, we, small gamblers, always need money to gamble. So we should always limit the use of money. Otherwise, we might lose a lot of money just because we want to indulge our desires.

Streamers usually use fake money given by casinos so they can play every day for big bets. I often watch slot machine streamers, and in my opinion they experience losses like ordinary players, but because their balance is unlimited they can play continuously so they get bigwin or maxwin

To be honest, I doubt if streamers use special accounts to play where it's easier to get big wins. In my opinion, the accounts used by streamers are the same as other accounts, only there is no money limit because the casino puts a fake money balance into their account.

In my opinion, slot machines are all about probability, the more often we play, the more likely we are to get maxwin. What differentiates us from the steremers is the balance

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy or anything. You basically said it yourself. They get huge sums of money to gamble with for their involvement with the company, so they can take lots of crazy risks and bet huge amounts. Every once in a while they hit and it seems to good to be true. They also lose a lot of money real quick sometimes, but those clips aren’t posted online.

I personally avoid following any type of "influencer" in any field. Of course I haven't any social network because I find as a waste of time full of fake stuffs.

About influencers, I find them fake like any advertisement... there is always an aspect behind them that they don't let you see, in short there is never any need to trust.

I'm not young anymore. even my "friends" don't use these systems and don't let themselves be fooled by these "false prophets"
The same rule always applies: if something seems too good to be true, it probably isn't

When gambling streams were newer, I was surprised how lucky they are and wondered if I could get the same returns when following their actions. In the end I mostly lost money following the strategies of streamers and stopped watching them for a while. Now I am watching them again, but only for entertainment purposes and I don't trust blindly what I am seeing. A few of my friends started to gamble more regularly after watching gambling streams, none of them made any big profits. It's hard to know what's going on behind the scenes and I feel like gambling influencers and streamers are getting special accounts by the casinos to promote their websites and casino games. If the money you gamble with is not your own you are much more open to take high risks.

Any online casino, that is clearly stating this in it's Terms of Service openly admits that the games are rigged. This seems like a really dumb move.
I don't watch gambling streamers because I don't trust them. This is just another form of sneaky advertising. I believe that gambling streamers should be banned completely. Platforms like Twitch are supposed to be for gaming streamers only(which was their initial purpose).
I don't know why in some countries gambling advertising is banned and yet they allow streamers on platforms like Twitch to gamble.
This seems like a violation of the gambling advertising ban in several countries.

Okay. But when you won the X600, did you record it? Is there a video of it? Or it just randomly happened and ever since then, it has been a record you can’t break? These streamers can’t always be that lucky on camera. If they lose a lot people will think it’s too hard to win. So I strongly believe that these streamers are affiliated with these gambling sites. Even the way they speak about it in their videos are always enticing.

streamer was never able to influence my mind to be interested in trying to deposit and bet on the same game and I never trusted any streamer and I admit I often watch the stream but I consider it as an interesting spectacle like watching football.

In the past I often played slots and also often got maxwin and maybe too often but after getting maxwin a few times I very rarely got 300x+ and tried to move to other games and this does not mean I was influenced by a streamer but I bet on slot games because I wanted to I myself.

and for stories about the money the streamer uses his own money or money from the casino or its just an account designed by the casino for a winning streak its not important to me because its just an entertainment show that does not need to be taken seriously.


so that means you think that in slot games you will be able to get a big multiplier when you reach 1000-5000 spins?
and that means big multipliers are only for those who have a big budget to reach those 1000-5000 spins?
so what about this words "longer you bet, the more you lose because house edge?"

Not really. I am familiar that casinos employ some methods to make it more appealing to viewers, whether it be the money streamers use being from them so they can spend however much, or heck even rigged rates when they play by having a customized part of the site accessible to their accounts. The thing is, I don't really give a damn lmao. No amount of streamer is going to suddenly make me bet $10k in a single go all of a sudden no matter what. So yea, I know it exists and it happens, but I just don't let it get to me.

Nah, they're only considered working in a casino if they're not putting their own money on the line. So, if we assume they're on the clock, it suggests they're using the casino's cash for their gambling sessions, explaining why they're not sweating the losses.

And that referral link? It's always hanging around, whether they're officially in cahoots with the casino or not. It's how streamers score some cash through commissions to make up for what they're doing, aside from the payments they get from YouTube, of course.

Is that so? because to this day I had only assume that the only difference between someone gambling in a casino as just the usual gambler and someone streaming their session and being sponsored by the casino itself, was that the casino offered some credit/money which the streamer was supposed to wager during the stream. I did not know that some casinos could go as far as increasing the chances of their streamers to get high multipliers, for the sake of advertisement, though I would need further confirmation of bit, because to me it sounds like a rumor.
I am also not sure on the legality of some casino doing such thing, like increasing or messing with the chances of their sponsored streamer to attract more people to the casino, it sounds like something which is supposed to be disclosed so the casino won't get into legal troubles with the time, even if no one reads the disclosure.