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newbie
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The problem that I see with coinswaps is that the price never seems to correct the right way. I've seen this happen in other coins. If you do a coinswap 5 million to 1, that would technically mean that the new coinsupply is a lot lower and the price of that new coin should be 5 million times higher and that might not happen

if one Stronghands would be $0,000001 for example, the new coins should be worth $5   I don't see this happen really.  So a coinburn/swap could seriously affect marketcap

What do you think about that?

The real problem is the same one I posted about two months ago, when the total supply was 11 trillion and the price was .000005. The supply is ridiculous and still growing at astronomical rates. Literally added another 8 trillion coins in less than two months. The reason there's no value in Stronghands is the same reason there's no value in grains of sand - because they're everywhere. When I said that, people posted "I think this coin have good future and value!" and they'll probably say that again. But they're dead wrong.

If a burn actually happens, here's the thing with the price of Stronghands. If you have three coins worth $1 each and you destroy two of them, does that automatically make the third coin now worth $3 or more? If the value of the coins had to do with something besides scarcity, no. So here's the question you need to figure out: what is the actual utility value of Stronghands? If it is a coin that only exists to be mined and traded among sellers and it isn't used for any real-world purpose like buying or selling goods or saving rainforests or whatever, then the value won't be directly proportionate to the number of coins in existence. In simpler terms, using my example with grains of sand, even if all the sand on Earth were suddenly reduced by 2/3, it still wouldn't hold very much value. Because it's sand, and not that special.

http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20160502-even-desert-city-dubai-imports-its-sand-this-is-why
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
The problem that I see with coinswaps is that the price never seems to correct the right way. I've seen this happen in other coins. If you do a coinswap 5 million to 1, that would technically mean that the new coinsupply is a lot lower and the price of that new coin should be 5 million times higher and that might not happen

if one Stronghands would be $0,000001 for example, the new coins should be worth $5   I don't see this happen really.  So a coinburn/swap could seriously affect marketcap

What do you think about that?

The real problem is the same one I posted about two months ago, when the total supply was 11 trillion and the price was .000005. The supply is ridiculous and still growing at astronomical rates. Literally added another 8 trillion coins in less than two months. The reason there's no value in Stronghands is the same reason there's no value in grains of sand - because they're everywhere. When I said that, people posted "I think this coin have good future and value!" and they'll probably say that again. But they're dead wrong.

If a burn actually happens, here's the thing with the price of Stronghands. If you have three coins worth $1 each and you destroy two of them, does that automatically make the third coin now worth $3 or more? If the value of the coins had to do with something besides scarcity, no. So here's the question you need to figure out: what is the actual utility value of Stronghands? If it is a coin that only exists to be mined and traded among sellers and it isn't used for any real-world purpose like buying or selling goods or saving rainforests or whatever, then the value won't be directly proportionate to the number of coins in existence. In simpler terms, using my example with grains of sand, even if all the sand on Earth were suddenly reduced by 2/3, it still wouldn't hold very much value. Because it's sand, and not that special.
member
Activity: 220
Merit: 10
Профит!!!
Attention. Do not make deals on Coinexchange - they steal money. I bought STRONGHANDS - SPRTS and made a transfer to my local wallet. Several translations have passed, but one exchange Coinexchange has not missed, answered that there was no confirmation by e-mail. On the balance, the money did not return - those. support does not answer. I lost 100 million SPRTS
newbie
Activity: 90
Merit: 0
Guys, I need your help. When I type "getinfo" in my wallet i get "difficulty" : 690949.52466598, but the block explorer says Difficulty = 319753.467
Why is there a difference? I am staking my coins for 43 days, no rewards yet.
Block number is the same in my wallet and in block explorer. My wallet is 1.5.21
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
So is the swap 10 million to 1 or 5 million to 1. So of my 30 million SHND, i will only have 30 coins, at the lower ratio, after the swap. I'm beginning to think this is a weak Shit coin. How much will my 30 coins be worth at the swap?
member
Activity: 220
Merit: 10
Профит!!!
Dear Friends,
I have question,
one year ago i got 30Million SHND, and i have them in CoinExchange.io
i heard about sowap, Do i need to do anything?
please help me
thanks
You must continue to keep them even further - on the stock exchanges, incineration will happen automatically. After that you can install a masternodes on your computer and begin to get a good profit.
member
Activity: 220
Merit: 10
Профит!!!
The problem that I see with coinswaps is that the price never seems to correct the right way. I've seen this happen in other coins. If you do a coinswap 5 million to 1, that would technically mean that the new coinsupply is a lot lower and the price of that new coin should be 5 million times higher and that might not happen

if one Stronghands would be $0,000001 for example, the new coins should be worth $5   I don't see this happen really.  So a coinburn/swap could seriously affect marketcap

What do you think about that?


I agree with what you are saying.
The main reason people started to buy this coin was the price.
I can't see now how you can convince people to pay $5 for each coin?!

Especially the ration is really ridiculous.
I would have done like 1000/1 and not 5000000/1.
The main reason for burning coins is to raise them in the rating on coinmarketcap.com/. In this case, serious investors will pay more attention to it. The higher the price of a coin, the more attractive it is for purchases. STRONGHANDS - too much, 1000-1 it will not help, only 5 000 000 - 1
newbie
Activity: 67
Merit: 0
The problem that I see with coinswaps is that the price never seems to correct the right way. I've seen this happen in other coins. If you do a coinswap 5 million to 1, that would technically mean that the new coinsupply is a lot lower and the price of that new coin should be 5 million times higher and that might not happen

if one Stronghands would be $0,000001 for example, the new coins should be worth $5   I don't see this happen really.  So a coinburn/swap could seriously affect marketcap

What do you think about that?


I agree with what you are saying.
The main reason people started to buy this coin was the price.
I can't see now how you can convince people to pay $5 for each coin?!

Especially the ration is really ridiculous.
I would have done like 1000/1 and not 5000000/1.


member
Activity: 120
Merit: 10
Dear Friends,
I have question,
one year ago i got 30Million SHND, and i have them in CoinExchange.io
i heard about sowap, Do i need to do anything?
please help me
thanks
sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 252
The problem that I see with coinswaps is that the price never seems to correct the right way. I've seen this happen in other coins. If you do a coinswap 5 million to 1, that would technically mean that the new coinsupply is a lot lower and the price of that new coin should be 5 million times higher and that might not happen

if one Stronghands would be $0,000001 for example, the new coins should be worth $5   I don't see this happen really.  So a coinburn/swap could seriously affect marketcap

What do you think about that?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
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https://stocks.exchange do not buy coins on this exchange for 3 days I accidentally opened an account.included 2fa when I did not connect it. made all the output of the environment without confirmation mail. although if you want to display your depazit you need to make a confirmation. admins steal from the snubs.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0



upgrade now Smiley

........

ALSO you must delete the file
addr.dat


Delete this in the old wallet, or the new version?
Sorry if it's a stupid question & thanks again for the help!
newbie
Activity: 70
Merit: 0
Hi,

Coins of POS are now calculated? How much % per month ?

 Huh
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1036

transactions showing in grey are normally orphans or invalid transactions,

an orphan is a stake that is rejected by the network,
an invalid transaction maybe caused by the fact we have had planned and unplanned forks - any transactions on those chains are invalid on the real chain.

please join the discord server and the #wallet-help-chat channel for assistance.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1036
Did I make a mistake?

I bought more stronghands today & sent them from exchange to my wallet BEFORE I realized a wallet upgrade was out.

Now what?

Will they eventually show up in the old wallet, then I upgrade?
Or do I upgrade now?
The exchange says transaction complete, but its 12 hours now & not showing in the older wallet.

Thank you for any help


upgrade now Smiley

if you are running an old client you will most likely be on an incorrect chain,
you will need to resync from scratch.

please backup your wallet

download the latest file from
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cF96HJiU-KcuNRXskY3-MgtoLMBpneU4
and follow these instructions
https://i.redd.it/kpf8pslp1ob01.jpg

you will be copying over existing files.
ALSO you must delete the file
addr.dat
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
Did I make a mistake?

I bought more stronghands today & sent them from exchange to my wallet BEFORE I realized a wallet upgrade was out.

Now what?

Will they eventually show up in the old wallet, then I upgrade?
Or do I upgrade now?
The exchange says transaction complete, but its 12 hours now & not showing in the older wallet.

Thank you for any help
newbie
Activity: 90
Merit: 0
I am staking my STHN for 42 days now, the wallet is encrypted and unlocked. No revard yet.
sr. member
Activity: 910
Merit: 253
I must say that I follow the news but I'm still finding it hard to get the right information. Heres what I've found, hope I got it now.

Stronghands as we know it today will continue to exist

StronghandsMN (masternode currency) wil be created and you can get those coins if you swap your current Stronghands to that new coin on a 5.000.000 : 1  ratio.  So if you have 10 million Stronghands, in the new coin you will have only 2 coins. 

What I'm having a hard time is finding out what this will do to the price.  will the price of 1 SHMN coin be 5 million times higher?  I'm a little concerned because there is also a coinswap going on at Paccoin to $Pac with a 1000:1 ratio.

The problem is however that the price of the new coin is no way near x1000. So you swap your coins and then they are worth less actually, people are selling the new coins for less than x1000 value so I see that as a loss right.
The price of the coin will increase as well 1 = 5 000 000 000 this will allow the coin to climb into the  top coinmarket - new buyers will come. Nobody will invest in a coin until it is last, and if the coin shoots to the 300th place, there will be a lot of people willing to buy it - there will be more turnover, and its price will grow more.

This is a very good move - fewer coins - more opportunities to arrange a pamp.

It isn't dependent on the numbers you showed us. If the market wants to send this to the moon it will do it. I hope it will happen and I get paid for the believe and energy I put into ths.
member
Activity: 154
Merit: 10
I did buy STRONGHANDS 2 months ago I did transfer the STRONGHANDS  to my wallet to stake the coin on the old wallet for 20 days I did not get anything I waited for the new wallet I run it since its release the wallet is unlocked and I haven't got any coins can someone tell me what to do.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Guys, I've got a stuckeds transactions. How can I solve this? I've already restored the wallet, but it's still ...


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join the club... I'm still waiting on these to show up. Status: 126 confirmations, broadcast through 6 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 06:15
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.11 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.11 SHND
Transaction ID: 06d7b1a47cc9778578382ea56672949206c8488e056c12b88f8a1673e348a7d3

Status: 127 confirmations, broadcast through 7 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 06:10
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.11 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.11 SHND
Transaction ID: 9e1eed163429359faffaf3ef8f704069a55bf8623ebe4e6e28b036fc6018ba2f

Status: 130 confirmations, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 06:01
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.10 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.10 SHND
Transaction ID: 85267023f87883d8fe52b015206a1ee19aade208650620b407a699637ed0f11a

Status: 134 confirmations, broadcast through 9 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 05:46
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.10 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.10 SHND
Transaction ID: 613774c7edd4c2f6d9c70352832b2f005a4c3444859d4582f98eebaae2d1922e

Status: 134 confirmations, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 05:39
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.10 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.10 SHND
Transaction ID: 1c4b933ac1c34620a37f995075bcfdd05f4cf84c1adcaab149566f933402ed91

Status: 136 confirmations, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 05:27
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.09 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.09 SHND
Transaction ID: e6cca62d5870b2d02357f08a3f7e3e244f8a661c30844379c20fb4dff443d6aa

Status: 136 confirmations, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 05:25
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.09 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.09 SHND
Transaction ID: aff91d1429e03f28460140a01996c91c65e70c04dc8ec00d4c40dbe2d82fd488

Status: 138 confirmations, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 05:18
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.08 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.08 SHND
Transaction ID: 3a7492083d63245786dced87203a93cde3aea8b64918e7c1831b0ccd3b4324b6

Status: 141 confirmations, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 04:54
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.09 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.09 SHND
Transaction ID: b369ca47036752fe2a7ead7bc60cf9b897527c234de6e8298e33016a0d65605e

Status: 143 confirmations, broadcast through 7 nodes
Date: 2/15/2018 04:47
To: coinexchange Sf8uQwk9EsKhkqFfhgEDwUefajT2Eo3jGd
Debit: -999999999.00 SHND
Transaction fee: -0.08 SHND
Net amount: -999999999.08 SHND
Transaction ID: c192dd9039c0e3bb2d4dee73ed323e9fea9a5c4595945c45c0c0b6c48bea1582
Nobody from SHND team wants to help or explain what happened. That's ok... Shnd has a gaming team.
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