🕵️‍♂️Student Coin Team are Scammers in Disguise, Refused Paying Hunters Reward - page 2.

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Quote from: bakasabo on May 27, 2021, 02:10:50 AM

I agree that low quality work should be paid, but this should be discussed before bounty campaign started. And quality control team should involve on several bounty stages, but not month after campaign is ended. But saying like "you know, months has passed since you've done your work, and we decided to check if it was useful for us or not" is an act of cheating.

If you promise me to deliver a cow three months from now, I will not pay if you deliver a goat. And I shouldn't need a "quality control team" to check if you have a cow, if you're milking it on time, and if you're hiring responsible employees who aren't gonna eat the cow for dinner one day.

The question is whether BountyDetective promised a cow, a goat, or a dead squirrel. They seem to have delivered the latter but I doubt that was the deal.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on May 28, 2021, 03:41:09 AM

Quote from: Teriaki1979a on May 28, 2021, 03:33:58 AM

We are a group of investors and we hold a decent amount of Student Coin so we are concerned about this situation. We don't know who is right and who is wrong simply because neither STC Team or Bounty Hunters are willing to reveal the agreement contract. We find it very weird and shady when both sides claim to be right but no one is willing to provide the contract with all the rules and requirements. Please provide us the full information of the contract to make things clear. Thank you.

The investors and the bounty hunters are the ones that is on the pinch in this situation, the team can just abandon everyone and make it a scam but I have high hopes that the team is going to do the work that is needed to clear all this problem.

Haha, if you are thinking that the student coin team are going to turn around now and decide to make another round of payment to bounty hunters all in the name of clearing all this problem, then think again mate, this isn't even a problem to student coin team, I mean they have all the money to drive stc to success even amid all the fud and anger from bounty hunters, am also participated in student coin bounty myself, and it's not like am happy with the way the whole payment process went, but then, there isn't much I can do, so I've just decided to forget about all the fud and move on, even to prove to myself that I have forgiven student coin team, I decide to invest some good amount of money on stc which I bought yesterday, so I advice everyone of us to forget about all this fud on student coin and move on, all this fud won't make or break student coin.

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The Bounty Hunters underperformed, therefore they were underpaid.
You have all the explanation in the screenshots you attached yourself.
The results were basically not worth of the full price.

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Quote from: Teriaki1979a on May 28, 2021, 03:46:53 AM

Quote from: Kittygalore on May 28, 2021, 03:41:09 AM

The investors and the bounty hunters are the ones that is on the pinch in this situation, the team can just abandon everyone and make it a scam but I have high hopes that the team is going to do the work that is needed to clear all this problem.

This is totally clear that's why we are concerned. But why no side providing full information?

I don't know the answer to that but that might be because that's also how companies don't disclose info to the people who invested in their stocks, just wait it out and see what happens next.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on May 28, 2021, 03:41:09 AM

The investors and the bounty hunters are the ones that is on the pinch in this situation, the team can just abandon everyone and make it a scam but I have high hopes that the team is going to do the work that is needed to clear all this problem.

This is totally clear that's why we are concerned. But why no side providing full information?

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Quote from: Teriaki1979a on May 28, 2021, 03:33:58 AM

We are a group of investors and we hold a decent amount of Student Coin so we are concerned about this situation. We don't know who is right and who is wrong simply because neither STC Team or Bounty Hunters are willing to reveal the agreement contract. We find it very weird and shady when both sides claim to be right but no one is willing to provide the contract with all the rules and requirements. Please provide us the full information of the contract to make things clear. Thank you.

The investors and the bounty hunters are the ones that is on the pinch in this situation, the team can just abandon everyone and make it a scam but I have high hopes that the team is going to do the work that is needed to clear all this problem.

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We are a group of investors and we hold a decent amount of Student Coin so we are concerned about this situation. We don't know who is right and who is wrong simply because neither STC Team or Bounty Hunters are willing to reveal the agreement contract. We find it very weird and shady when both sides claim to be right but no one is willing to provide the contract with all the rules and requirements. Please provide us the full information of the contract to make things clear. Thank you.

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Quote from: Rikafip on May 26, 2021, 12:51:34 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 25, 2021, 10:32:09 AM

CEO of Student Coin in telegram channel pinned post says that bounty hunters generated almost nothing, said that bounty hunters made low quality content and did not help to promote project at all. That can be true, sometimes bounty hunters share retweet post info only among each other, sometimes work they do are useless. But that does not mean they must not be paid what they were promised. It was Student Coin fault not to follow how bounty was doing and if it brings any success. They should have stopped bounty as soon as they saw it brings no result. It is completely Student Coin fault that such situation appeared.

I am not surprised that CEO of Student Coin said that about inefficiency of bounty hunters, and bounty campaigns in general. Bounty hunters follow each other, make copy/pasted articles and generally have no reach. Can you imagine someone buying coin just because someone with questionable English level wrote some useless article on the completely irrelevant blogging platform that only other bounty hunters use.

As you said, all this doesn't mean that bounty hunters shouldn't be paid for their work, unless they set some metrics on which the bounty payment depends on.

it is difficult but that's the fact I have also seen a collection of articles that are exactly the same as done by some of the campaign participants.
yes, there must be regulations, but this cannot be certain because being a worker on a project like this cannot entail a definite payment guarantee, unless they do an early esrow.

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Quote from: bakasabo on May 27, 2021, 02:10:50 AM

Quote from: nutildah on May 26, 2021, 01:03:46 AM

I would not pay for such low quality work either.

There seems to be absolutely no quality control in Bounty Detective's campaigns whatsoever.

I agree that low quality work should be paid, but this should be discussed before bounty campaign started. And quality control team should involve on several bounty stages, but not month after campaign is ended. But saying like "you know, months has passed since you've done your work, and we decided to check if it was useful for us or not" is an act of cheating.

I agree that there is no quality control from BM side. They just select "first X participants" in campaign and check if they done weekly campaign tasks.

On the other side, how can quality be checked, when twitter of facebook campaign have rules "retweet with hashtag". How could the team separate redirect made to projects webpage from their tweet from same tweet with hashtag?

Low quality work might be applicable for other types of campaign, but for the signature campaign, it's more on the post characters requirement most of the time and not spamming the forum, and you are right, there seems to be no quality control at all, and all of that is still useless as they will not pay the bounty hunters anyway.

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Quote from: nutildah on May 26, 2021, 01:03:46 AM

I would not pay for such low quality work either.

There seems to be absolutely no quality control in Bounty Detective's campaigns whatsoever.

I agree that low quality work should be paid, but this should be discussed before bounty campaign started. And quality control team should involve on several bounty stages, but not month after campaign is ended. But saying like "you know, months has passed since you've done your work, and we decided to check if it was useful for us or not" is an act of cheating.

I agree that there is no quality control from BM side. They just select "first X participants" in campaign and check if they done weekly campaign tasks.

On the other side, how can quality be checked, when twitter of facebook campaign have rules "retweet with hashtag". How could the team separate redirect made to projects webpage from their tweet from same tweet with hashtag?

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Quote from: Rikafip on May 26, 2021, 02:59:34 AM

Quote from: nutildah on May 26, 2021, 01:03:46 AM

There seems to be absolutely no quality control in Bounty Detective's campaigns whatsoever.

I think that's more of a rule than exception when it comes to bounty campaign. Thing is, quality control is not in anyone's interest (sometimes maybe not even client's) because if it was, 90% of bounty hunters wouldn't be able to join any campaign and bounty managers are mostly interested in number of participants that they can show to their clients.

I think its in the interest of the campaign and the honest participants in the campaign that tokens not be paid for low-quality work that would result in zero meaningful traffic being directed to the project website regardless of what the project itself was. It cheapens the value of the token for everyone if the project is basically just performing airdrops under the guise of a bounty.

Regardless, we still don't know the details of the arrangement.

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Everyone should report Student coin all social media account.This is huge scam with bounty hunters.Thanks bounty detective for posting about scam about Student coin.

There should be an organized group to do that so the effect will be big.

STC let everyone down, we never know they will scam us since they raise a good amount of money and they can afford to get listed in big exchanges.
It's not they don't care about their project, they just don't think that bounty hunters can destroy their reputation.

let's prove them wrong.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 26, 2021, 03:26:58 AM

Quote from: Mr.Scott on May 26, 2021, 12:32:43 AM

Same old trick, and again victims are poor bounty hunters.

Don't call them poor, but call them stupid. How many times have we written here, that you need to check all the flags of the companies that hunters are going to support? Instead of creating telegram groups to create lists of new bounty programs, it is high time to create a group for training and recognition for scams. The forum often warns of bounty scams, but bounty hunters only show up here when they are being deceived again. The rest of the time they have no time to write here.
But with the emergence of new projects and the promise of big money, the hunters do not learn from their old mistakes, and again begin to "work day and night" to advertise scams.
It is useless to write warnings, it is useless to feel sorry for them. Anyone who is smarter leaves these activities, but for everyone who remains it is not enough that they are so often fooled.

That's right, however there is a psychological game around the corner and only few can go through it successfully. Bounty Detective introduced two rounds of Student Coin Campaign. First round bounty rewards have been successfully distributed to participants but STC CEO introduced his drama right after 3 month long bounty program, however STC SEO have no issue on first round. STC team not only reduced the bounty pool but disrespect to all the STC supporters. So, hunters have no clue STC team could play with them their dirty game.

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Quote from: Mr.Scott on May 26, 2021, 12:32:43 AM

Same old trick, and again victims are poor bounty hunters.

Don't call them poor, but call them stupid. How many times have we written here, that you need to check all the flags of the companies that hunters are going to support? Instead of creating telegram groups to create lists of new bounty programs, it is high time to create a group for training and recognition for scams. The forum often warns of bounty scams, but bounty hunters only show up here when they are being deceived again. The rest of the time they have no time to write here.
But with the emergence of new projects and the promise of big money, the hunters do not learn from their old mistakes, and again begin to "work day and night" to advertise scams.
It is useless to write warnings, it is useless to feel sorry for them. Anyone who is smarter leaves these activities, but for everyone who remains it is not enough that they are so often fooled.

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Quote from: nutildah on May 26, 2021, 01:03:46 AM

Suchmoon brought it up earlier but it would be good to see what the original agreement actually stated.

I would not pay for such low quality work either.

My guess is probably nothing, but bounty managers probably promise miracles in order to get the job and when that doesn't happen, we get situations like this one.

Quote from: nutildah on May 26, 2021, 01:03:46 AM

There seems to be absolutely no quality control in Bounty Detective's campaigns whatsoever.

I think that's more of a rule than exception when it comes to bounty campaign. Thing is, quality control is not in anyone's interest (sometimes maybe not even client's) because if it was, 90% of bounty hunters wouldn't be able to join any campaign and bounty managers are mostly interested in number of participants that they can show to their clients.

This will keep happening until bounty hunters start avoiding bounty campaigns with clear red flags such as inflated bounty pool. For example, Student Coin bounty pool is 1 million USD worth of tokens. How can anyone in their right mind think that some project willing to give such a huge amount of tokens can be legit or that will honor the deal? Just looking at the spreadsheet, some bounty hunters are supposed to get 400k+ tokens worth almost 9,000 USD (based on ICO price) for a crappy paraphrased or text spinned Medium article. Just ridiculous, but as they say common sense is not so common.

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Quote from: Rikafip on May 26, 2021, 12:51:34 AM

As you said, all this doesn't mean that bounty hunters shouldn't be paid for their work, unless they set some metrics on which the bounty payment depends on.

Suchmoon brought it up earlier but it would be good to see what the original agreement actually stated.

I would not pay for such low quality work either.

If Bounty Detective was truly interested in solving the problem, they would weed out the dozens of rule-breaking accounts that cheated that bounty, which would raise the size of everybody else's stake. Its ludicrous to expect someone to pay up for everybody if your campaign is riddled with cheaters, which I'm quite certain it is.

There seems to be absolutely no quality control in Bounty Detective's campaigns whatsoever.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 25, 2021, 10:32:09 AM

CEO of Student Coin in telegram channel pinned post says that bounty hunters generated almost nothing, said that bounty hunters made low quality content and did not help to promote project at all. That can be true, sometimes bounty hunters share retweet post info only among each other, sometimes work they do are useless. But that does not mean they must not be paid what they were promised. It was Student Coin fault not to follow how bounty was doing and if it brings any success. They should have stopped bounty as soon as they saw it brings no result. It is completely Student Coin fault that such situation appeared.

I am not surprised that CEO of Student Coin said that about inefficiency of bounty hunters, and bounty campaigns in general. Bounty hunters follow each other, make copy/pasted articles and generally have no reach. Can you imagine someone buying coin just because someone with questionable English level wrote some useless article on the completely irrelevant blogging platform that only other bounty hunters use.

As you said, all this doesn't mean that bounty hunters shouldn't be paid for their work, unless they set some metrics on which the bounty payment depends on.

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Same old trick, and again victims are poor bounty hunters. Student Coin Team management up to bottom is lies and all the statements just one side and completely ignored the Bounty Detective words. Student Coin CEO is lying repeatedly, they proposed Bounty Detective 5 ETH as block money to checkmate. Student Coin Team share only 1/3 of the total $300k and rest of the money they send to their own wallet. Student Coin Team 2021 biggest scam in history.

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In my opinion, even the curse of one person can ruin you. How many people here have cursed this project from the bottom of their hearts. And that's just right all the way. People work hard for their livelihood. And if they don't get the fruits of their labor, it is not right.
The student coin team remembers that if we can give you success, we will keep you out of these crypto industries.

If we let this project ruin you, it will be a lesson for another new project.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 25, 2021, 10:32:09 AM

CEO of Student Coin in telegram channel pinned post says that bounty hunters generated almost nothing, said that bounty hunters made low quality content and did not help to promote project at all. That can be true, sometimes bounty hunters share retweet post info only among each other, sometimes work they do are useless. But that does not mean they must not be paid what they were promised. It was Student Coin fault not to follow how bounty was doing and if it brings any success. They should have stopped bounty as soon as they saw it brings no result. It is completely Student Coin fault that such situation appeared.

It's more likely the fault of the bounty manager who hired shitty participants. The OP didn't provide any proof of what the original agreement was and who broke it. I wouldn't be surprised if BountyDetective lied to both sides (to the "CEO" about the quality of the promotion, and to the bounty participants about why they're not getting paid).

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