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The fact that the accuser has not done so means that the PMs are not legitimate.
Or that he takes the loss fearing to lose his business on BCT.
Screenshot showed clearly a direct attack to destroy his business on BCT.
Topic: @suchmoon could you provide info on this - page 10. (Read 3361 times)
Or that he takes the loss fearing to lose his business on BCT.
Screenshot showed clearly a direct attack to destroy his business on BCT.
If you received this screenshot in its redacted form from a zero post newbie, then I would suggest locking this thread. (I think this is what you are saying). You don't have any way to assess the credibility of the evidence, and the evidence is not credible. Suchmoon has denied the validity of the screenshot.
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He is begging me because according to his PM's he is getting massiv threats on his main account to get his business destroyed on BCT which is his main income source.
He begged to delete the whole thread.
He's lying or you're lying. There's no other explanation to this thread. The PM authenticity can be trivially proven by the accuser as was said already. The fact that the accuser has not done so means that the PMs are not legitimate. He is begging me because according to his PM's he is getting massiv threats on his main account to get his business destroyed on BCT which is his main income source.
He begged to delete the whole thread.
A zero post newbie is begging you to remove the screenshot for one of three reasons:
What ultimately matters is if the screenshot is real.
- Someone thinks the screenshot might be real and wants to protect suchmoon
- Someone wants to make suchmoon look bad
- Someone wants to create more drama
What ultimately matters is if the screenshot is real.
He is begging me because according to his PM's he is getting massiv threats on his main account to get his business destroyed on BCT which is his main income source.
He begged to delete the whole thread.
I guess checking the adress on the PM is also no evidence......but a nice coincident right ?
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A zero post newbie is begging you to remove the screenshot for one of three reasons:
With zero post newbie i mean the guy who sent me that screenshot and some more info.Tell me a reason why a zero post newbie would be bagging to remove a screenshot or the thread.
Would he be afraid of loosing his newbie account ?I highly doubt so
A zero post newbie is begging you to remove the screenshot for one of three reasons:
What ultimately matters is if the screenshot is real.
- Someone thinks the screenshot might be real and wants to protect suchmoon
- Someone wants to make suchmoon look bad
- Someone wants to create more drama
What ultimately matters is if the screenshot is real.
Do you accuse me of framing ?
I don't know if morvillz7z did but I do, because I know for a fact that the story is false and you've been threatening me for a while, so 2+2. There is no plausible reason for some random third party to make up this story and then send it to someone like you when there are far more capable shit-stirrers available, like Quicksy just above. So most likely you just made it up yourself.
You are getting your confidence back thanks to your threats to him ?
I will allow 2 persons to see if these PM's are legit.
2 Persons i trust are ognasty and mrep.
theymos unfortunately denied checking my PM's
I would say that I believe you have a PM with that screenshot in your inbox. What I think is less likely is that someone received a PM similar to what the screenshot shows.
Suchmoon accused me of framing so its also about if these PM's exist.And i also disagree with you since i'm very well aware of these kind of manipulations.
For me its looks convincingly.
Did i mention that a 0 post account is begging me to remove the screenshot ?
I sent him a final message based on that i will decide if i will remove that screenshot or not since i'm not going to risk his main income.Its his own final decission.
Why he is begging me to remove that screenshot everyone can imagine himself.Its surely not because of loosing a 0 post account.
Do you accuse me of framing ?
I don't know if morvillz7z did but I do, because I know for a fact that the story is false and you've been threatening me for a while, so 2+2. There is no plausible reason for some random third party to make up this story and then send it to someone like you when there are far more capable shit-stirrers available, like Quicksy just above. So most likely you just made it up yourself.
You are getting your confidence back thanks to your threats to him ?
I will allow 2 persons to see if these PM's are legit.
2 Persons i trust are ognasty and mrep.
theymos unfortunately denied checking my PM's
I would say that I believe you have a PM with that screenshot in your inbox. What I think is less likely is that someone received a PM similar to what the screenshot shows.
Do you accuse me of framing ?
I don't know if morvillz7z did but I do, because I know for a fact that the story is false and you've been threatening me for a while, so 2+2. There is no plausible reason for some random third party to make up this story and then send it to someone like you when there are far more capable shit-stirrers available, like Quicksy just above. So most likely you just made it up yourself.
I will allow 2 persons to see if these PM's are legit.
2 Persons i trust are ognasty and mrep.
theymos unfortunately denied checking my PM's
Do you accuse me of framing ?
I don't know if morvillz7z did but I do, because I know for a fact that the story is false and you've been threatening me for a while, so 2+2. There is no plausible reason for some random third party to make up this story and then send it to someone like you when there are far more capable shit-stirrers available, like Quicksy just above. So most likely you just made it up yourself.
100% fake.
It looks like suchmoon has denied the allegations, so the OP needs to provide actual proof, similar to what others (and myself) have suggested. If this is fake, and so far, all signs point in that direction, this will be harmful to the community and will only make it easier for someone in a similar situation to scam in the future as these frivolous claims cause future claims to be taken less seriously.
the D9 was released late April 2018, first shipment from inno was on 27th April. first message is on 4th May, very low chances he got it by 4th may, but i'l let it pass.
BTC price on that date = 9700$
The D9 was selling for less than 7000$.
why would anybody pay 2700$ extra for this shit? why would the seller offer it at such price anyway?
also why did he not start a scam accusation then or now for that matter?
BTC price on that date = 9700$
The D9 was selling for less than 7000$.
why would anybody pay 2700$ extra for this shit? why would the seller offer it at such price anyway?
also why did he not start a scam accusation then or now for that matter?
You would be amazed at what markup people are willing to pay for a new miner. Especially if they don't want to wait for the next batch to ship. A ~40% markup is actually pretty low.
Personally, I don't give this allegation much credence, since the source is Thule. I believe Vod is still waiting for his summons. However, if Thule can get his source to get a moderator involved and show this is true, I'll eat my hat avatar.
the D9 was released late April 2018, first shipment from inno was on 27th April. first message is on 4th May, very low chances he got it by 4th may, but i'l let it pass.
BTC price on that date = 9700$
The D9 was selling for less than 7000$.
why would anybody pay 2700$ extra for this shit? why would the seller offer it at such price anyway?
also why did he not start a scam accusation then or now for that matter?
BTC price on that date = 9700$
The D9 was selling for less than 7000$.
why would anybody pay 2700$ extra for this shit? why would the seller offer it at such price anyway?
also why did he not start a scam accusation then or now for that matter?
Any Moderator can feel free to check my PM's if this is legit or not.
This person can report the last PM to a moderator, who can confirm its legitimacy. I personally think the quote is faked, but am willing to keep an open mind about the situation. There are red flags about the screenshot you posted that haven’t been brought up yet.
This is indeed a very serious accusation. On one hand the allegation has been made and should be proven if it is true as it is easily possible to do so. On the other hand, if the user is trying to stay anonymous then reporting the post will surely give up his identity (a user giving info to mods, which Lauda was at the time, is how TMAN was able to get information on zeroxal that he used to harass zeroxal and his mother). However, seeing as though suchmoon would already be aware who the user is, I don't think that is a legitimate concern.
Do you have evidence to back up such a rediculous claim?
It isn't a claim. It's a fact. Talk to the users involved. This isn't the place to discuss, but since you seem to be backing up Lauda while ignoring his misdeeds, you might want to revisit some of the many scammer threads with his involvement.
After Lauda began harassing zeroxal, trying to destroy his reputation and claiming he was a scammer, zeroxal did everything he could to prove his innocence. This included sending his information to a 3rd party for verification. He chose to send his passport (bad idea) to IronMarvel2, who then provided it to Lauda whom he thought could be trusted since he was a moderator of the forum. This information was then given to TMAN, who used it to call and harass zeroxal along with his mother in their home. Don't take my word for it though. Ask IronMarvel2 or zeroxal if you need clarification of how Lauda abuses any position he's given to enact terror on those he disagrees with. I'd rather not share my PMs with everyone involved, but still have them...
I am not backing up anyone. I'm just getting sick and tired of seeing all these unfounded accusations posted in the wrong topics. Feel free to post evidence of your claims here.
I have no idea what has happened to you. You used to act like an adult but now you are grasping every tiny opportunity you have of slandering Lauda, such as in this topic. This is between Thule and suchmoon, it has nothing to do with Lauda. You even merited a post that encourages people to use a trust list which trusts numerous of known scammers and distrust highly trusted members, just because they hate Lauda more than you do. I couldn't imagine you supporting something like that a year ago. I know a lot of stuff happened between you and Lauda/Tman etc. but this has to stop. You've already left negative feedback so just hit the ignore button (and that goes for Lauda as well).
No. I won't "just hit the ignore button" as you'd like. You're the old white woman telling LeBron James to just shut up and dribble. Sorry, I care too much about this forum. You're gonna have to deal with it. You've already excluded me (but not Lauda, shocker), so why not take your own advice and hit the ignore button if you don't like the truths I post?
Any Moderator can feel free to check my PM's if this is legit or not.
This person can report the last PM to a moderator, who can confirm its legitimacy. I personally think the quote is faked, but am willing to keep an open mind about the situation. There are red flags about the screenshot you posted that haven’t been brought up yet.
This is indeed a very serious accusation. On one hand the allegation has been made and should be proven if it is true as it is easily possible to do so. On the other hand, if the user is trying to stay anonymous then reporting the post will surely give up his identity (a user giving info to mods, which Lauda was at the time, is how TMAN was able to get information on zeroxal that he used to harass zeroxal and his mother). However, seeing as though suchmoon would already be aware who the user is, I don't think that is a legitimate concern.
Do you have evidence to back up such a rediculous claim?
It isn't a claim. It's a fact. Talk to the users involved. This isn't the place to discuss, but since you seem to be backing up Lauda while ignoring his misdeeds, you might want to revisit some of the many scammer threads with his involvement.
After Lauda began harassing zeroxal, trying to destroy his reputation and claiming he was a scammer, zeroxal did everything he could to prove his innocence. This included sending his information to a 3rd party for verification. He chose to send his passport (bad idea) to IronMarvel2, who then provided it to Lauda whom he thought could be trusted since he was a moderator of the forum. This information was then given to TMAN, who used it to call and harass zeroxal along with his mother in their home. Don't take my word for it though. Ask IronMarvel2 or zeroxal if you need clarification of how Lauda abuses any position he's given to enact terror on those he disagrees with. I'd rather not share my PMs with everyone involved, but still have them...
I am not backing up anyone. I'm just getting sick and tired of seeing all these unfounded accusations posted in the wrong topics. Feel free to post evidence of your claims here.
I have no idea what has happened to you. You used to act like an adult but now you are grasping every tiny opportunity you have of slandering Lauda, such as in this topic. This is between Thule and suchmoon, it has nothing to do with Lauda. You even merited a post that encourages people to use a trust list which trusts numerous of known scammers and distrust highly trusted members, just because they hate Lauda more than you do. I couldn't imagine you supporting something like that a year ago. I know a lot of stuff happened between you and Lauda/Tman etc. but this has to stop. You've already left negative feedback so just hit the ignore button (and that goes for Lauda as well).
Do you accuse me of framing ?
The screenshot you posted is indeed an attempt at framing a DT1 member.
And you seem pretty sure HTML code isn't being manipulated. How is that? Guess you have inside information, something we don't know?
And no its not edited HTML
Thule was given this information by a 3rd party. Thule is doing the correct thing by presenting it. He is asking for a mod to confirm. Better still if it is credible get theymos to check the other persons account.
Why would thule be getting banned?
Do you accuse me of framing ?
The screenshot you posted is indeed an attempt at framing a DT1 member.
And you seem pretty sure HTML code isn't being manipulated. How is that? Guess you have inside information, something we don't know?
And no its not edited HTML
I clearly see 2 options:
If it's confirmed it's real then suchmoon would be out of DT in a few minutes so nothing to be afraid of, even if the identity of the victim would be revealed. Since it's so easy to prove the PM is real then it doesn't make sense to pay any attention to this unless that proof is posted.
- Report the PM to an admin. I'm sure the supposed victim trusts at least one admin, at least theymos. He can ask the admin just to confirm the PM without revealing any identity
- If he doesn't trust any admin then choose any other very trusted member of this forum (or 2 or 3), trusted by him and by most other users and grant temporary access to his account. Again, he can ask not to reveal his identity
If it's confirmed it's real then suchmoon would be out of DT in a few minutes so nothing to be afraid of, even if the identity of the victim would be revealed. Since it's so easy to prove the PM is real then it doesn't make sense to pay any attention to this unless that proof is posted.
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I'm also wondering if this type of obvious framing is ban worthy?
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I understand that trust is not moderated, but we have someone who has altered forum's html code.
It is an extreme violation to falsify such information, at least in my eyes, regardless of the means and should be dealt with accordingly.
It is an extreme violation to falsify such information, at least in my eyes, regardless of the means and should be dealt with accordingly.
Do you accuse me of framing ?
I will wait for a PM from the sender.According to him his new account is limited to 2 PM's per day.
Don't know if thats true or not
Any Moderator can feel free to check my PM's if this is legit or not.
This person can report the last PM to a moderator, who can confirm its legitimacy. I personally think the quote is faked, but am willing to keep an open mind about the situation. There are red flags about the screenshot you posted that haven’t been brought up yet.
This is indeed a very serious accusation. On one hand the allegation has been made and should be proven if it is true as it is easily possible to do so. On the other hand, if the user is trying to stay anonymous then reporting the post will surely give up his identity (a user giving info to mods, which Lauda was at the time, is how TMAN was able to get information on zeroxal that he used to harass zeroxal and his mother). However, seeing as though suchmoon would already be aware who the user is, I don't think that is a legitimate concern.
Do you have evidence to back up such a rediculous claim?
It isn't a claim. It's a fact. Talk to the users involved. This isn't the place to discuss, but since you seem to be backing up Lauda while ignoring his misdeeds, you might want to revisit some of the many scammer threads with his involvement.
After Lauda began harassing zeroxal, trying to destroy his reputation and claiming he was a scammer, zeroxal did everything he could to prove his innocence. This included sending his information to a 3rd party for verification. He chose to send his passport (bad idea) to IronMarvel2, who then provided it to Lauda whom he thought could be trusted since he was a moderator of the forum. This information was then given to TMAN, who used it to call and harass zeroxal along with his mother in their home. Don't take my word for it though. Ask IronMarvel2 or zeroxal if you need clarification of how Lauda abuses any position he's given to enact terror on those he disagrees with. I'd rather not share my PMs with everyone involved, but still have them...
I understand that trust is not moderated, but we have someone who has altered forum's html code.
You just alter what you view in your browser i.e. this was done client side. It isn't a big deal as you can do it on any site, but it really depends on why you did it.It is an extreme violation to falsify such information, at least in my eyes, regardless of the means and should be dealt with accordingly.
As I've said, sadly this isn't a bannable offense. Jump to: