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legendary
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February 10, 2019, 10:54:09 AM
#84
@bones

I think my long post clouded my main point.

If thule asked theymos to investigate the persons PM early into this then we need to realise thule did not make it up. It would make no logical sense for him to create something to have it debunked straight away.

Surely you agree. It is only reasonable. Whether theymos will acknowledge he was asked who can say.

I will take any input from Theymos or another administrator into consideration. However, I don't think Theymos is going to confirm an IP unless the source cooperates. If the "source" is cooperating on that extent, they might as well cooperate and have an administrator confirm the original PM.  


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All we have is Thule's word that he asked Theymos
It would take 2 seconds for you to confirm it

It's your juicy scoop. You do the work necessary to convince me that your source exists and is credible. Otherwise fake news.
sr. member
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February 10, 2019, 10:44:33 AM
#83
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Thule seemed to have no difficulty providing a link to one of the threads.

I found it after you posted it had been used in the past.I never checked it myself before.
However on that thread suchmoon is denying its the right adress


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All we have is Thule's word that he asked Theymos
It would take 2 seconds for you to confirm it
legendary
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February 10, 2019, 10:34:08 AM
#82
@bones

I think my long post could of clouded my main point.

If thule asked theymos to investigate the persons PM early into this then we need to realise thule did not make it up. It would make no logical sense for him to create something to have it debunked straight away. Theymos may not get involved if it were true (other than remove suchmoon i hope) but he could certainly say this is PM is a fake.

Okay sorry I thought someone said the dox was deleted and she had denied it was accurate anyway.

legendary
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February 10, 2019, 10:22:20 AM
#81


Bones although we have had a few arguments  I do not think you are as unfair as the others so i ask you to be sensible about this issue.

The FACT thule has request theymos look at the original PM is enough to suggest that HE BELIEVES they exist.

I think red trust in light of this is completely wrong. Please explain how you see it other wise.


AFAIK, libel is usually handled as a civil matter. I strongly believe that this allegation has far less than a 50 % chance of being truthful.



I see no way for thule to have found this information if suchmoon claims there is no dox anywhere else.


Simply researching with Google or looking through SMs post history will reveal the info contained in the screenshot. Thule seemed to have no difficulty providing a link to one of the threads.

Please be sensible he would not have asked Theymos to investigate this just to fall flat on his face if it were immediately found to be a spoof.
All we have is Thule's word that he asked Theymos. I give this as much cred as "the dog ate my homework" excuse. By the way, Themos isn't going to reveal an "anonymous source" IP without that person's consent. Thule will have to convince his "source" to cooperate in some way.


If this blows up and it turns out suchmoon has stolen some persons money or miner then it will look very bad if the person bringing this to light was red trusted along the way considering he is calling on you dts and theymos to help him get to the bottom of it.
The negative comment will be removed if this allegation becomes much more substantiated. Hell, if the allegation becomes rock solid against suchmoon, I might even make it a positive. as I said before, I'll eat my hat avatar if that happens.

It is completely illogical and would be stupid for him to call for theymos to confirm at all let alone of his own accord so early on in this debacle.

It simply does not make any sense for a person to believe thule sent himself this message. His actions are compelling evidence this was sent to him by someone else.


Compelling? I don't think so at all. Let's revisit what some of our other peers have already posted.


If this is fake, and so far, all signs point in that direction, this will be harmful to the community and will only make it easier for someone in a similar situation to scam in the future as these frivolous claims cause future claims to be taken less seriously.  

False allegations hurt everyone. Massive amounts of time are wasted and the community learns to ignore these kinds of complaints as a result of the boy who cried wolf syndrome (is that a thing?).

There are only two logical steps forward here.

1) Have the original PM authenticated.
or
2) Lock this thread.

As most people know, these two peers aren't exactly BFF with suchmoon. Claiming you got your information from an anonymous source is no defense for libel. My red tag will remain in place until I'm convinced this allegation is more likely than not to be true. So far, it isn't.

legendary
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February 10, 2019, 09:56:33 AM
#80
Which doxx are you claiming i have posted ?There is only a zip code from a screenshot which you claim is fake.All other information have been blurred.
If someone else claims that this postal code have been used before and i put a link to that old thread how can you accuse me of publishing your personal information?

You drop city and zip. Quicksy drops first and last name. That combines into identifiable information and that's how y'all scammers create loopholes around rules. This information should not be posted outside of Investigations board. It shouldn't even be in Investigation because neither you nor Quicksy have a plausible reason for it.

Since suchmoon accuses me of doctoring that screenshot she should be also asking theymos to check these pm's .
However somehow i don't see her making such requests.

I have zero interest to help you in any way.

I have some mild interest in getting you, your alts, and Quicksy banned for doxing against the rules so keep going.

Seems like your MO getting people banned for doing nothing wrong.

If it turns out that you did scam this person then it is you that should be getting banned suchmoon

Threats seem a common theme with suchmoon.


sr. member
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February 10, 2019, 09:37:09 AM
#79
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I have some mild interest in getting you, your alts, and Quicksy banned for doxing against the rules so keep going.


So you admit you are harrasing me and tagging everywhere were its possible even the reason is faked ?
Also there are no alts from me which means your goal is to destroy my account or get me banned right ?

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It shouldn't even be in Investigation because neither you nor Quicksy have a plausible reason for it.
It is since i belive its not faked and am even willing to risk to get my account banned.(Here you got your opportunity)
I would do anything so theymos would check the senders IP and compare it with other accounts.


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how y'all scammers
I asked like 100 times but will ask again who did i scammed in 7 years that you call me a scammer ?
legendary
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February 10, 2019, 07:57:57 AM
#78
Which doxx are you claiming i have posted ?There is only a zip code from a screenshot which you claim is fake.All other information have been blurred.
If someone else claims that this postal code have been used before and i put a link to that old thread how can you accuse me of publishing your personal information?

You drop city and zip. Quicksy drops first and last name. That combines into identifiable information and that's how y'all scammers create loopholes around rules. This information should not be posted outside of Investigations board. It shouldn't even be in Investigation because neither you nor Quicksy have a plausible reason for it.

Since suchmoon accuses me of doctoring that screenshot she should be also asking theymos to check these pm's .
However somehow i don't see her making such requests.

I have zero interest to help you in any way.

I have some mild interest in getting you, your alts, and Quicksy banned for doxing against the rules so keep going.
legendary
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February 10, 2019, 07:18:51 AM
#77
I see no way for thule to have found this information if suchmoon claims there is no dox anywhere else.

suchmoon's dox was posted more than three years ago, information is still up and can be easily accessed by Thule or anyone else.

Has this screen shot been proven a Fake?

Has it been proven as authentic?



I offered theymos to check my PM's and senders IP since he didn't hided via proxy 100% so he would find easily his main account.

How do you know that?
legendary
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February 10, 2019, 06:51:14 AM
#76
Ha ha the one who has been accused of being my alt by suchmoon ?

Not exactly...
The one accused by suchmoon is itomarketing.
The one that posted here then deleted is ito-marketing



@bones you wrote at your negative tagg some false description and that

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Will remove tag if pm from the anonymous "source" can be verified by staff.


I offered theymos to check my PM's and senders IP since he didn't hided via proxy 100% so he would find easily his main account.
Offer still stays to theymos since it would be the ultimate proof against suchmoon.
But he refused.

Since suchmoon accuses me of doctoring that screenshot she should be also asking theymos to check these pm's .
However somehow i don't see her making such requests.



Bones although we have had a few arguments  I do not think you are as unfair as the others so i ask you to be sensible about this issue.

The FACT thule has request theymos look at the original PM is enough to suggest that HE BELIEVES they exist.

I think red trust in light of this is completely wrong. Please explain how you see it other wise.

I see no way for thule to have found this information if suchmoon claims there is no dox anywhere else.

Please be sensible he would not have asked Theymos to investigate this just to fall flat on his face if it were immediately found to be a spoof.

If this blows up and it turns out suchmoon has stolen some persons money or miner then it will look very bad if the person bringing this to light was red trusted along the way considering he is calling on you dts and theymos to help him get to the bottom of it.

It is completely illogical and would be stupid for him to call for theymos to confirm at all let alone of his own accord so early on in this debacle.

It simply does not make any sense for a person to believe thule sent himself this message. His actions are compelling evidence this was sent to him by someone else.





sr. member
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February 10, 2019, 02:20:14 AM
#75
Ha ha the one who has been accused of being my alt by suchmoon ?

Not exactly...
The one accused by suchmoon is itomarketing.
The one that posted here then deleted is ito-marketing



@bones you wrote at your negative tagg some false description and that

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Will remove tag if pm from the anonymous "source" can be verified by staff.


I offered theymos to check my PM's and senders IP since he didn't hided via proxy 100% so he would find easily his main account.
Offer still stays to theymos since it would be the ultimate proof against suchmoon.
But he refused.

Since suchmoon accuses me of doctoring that screenshot she should be also asking theymos to check these pm's .
However somehow i don't see her making such requests.
legendary
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February 10, 2019, 02:14:51 AM
#74
Ito-marketing even posted its not worth fighting in another thread and you post your copy and paste bullshit of Conspiring ? .
No, it was itomarketing who posted that, which happened after I tagged ito-marketing. At the time I didn't even know about itomarketing. While I do appreciate you cluing me in to your alts, the evidence so far is circumstantial; you'll need to give me more than that if you want another tag.
sr. member
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February 10, 2019, 01:20:43 AM
#73
Ha ha the one who has been accused of being my alt by suchmoon ?

Not exactly...
The one accused by suchmoon is itomarketing.
The one that posted here then deleted is ito-marketing



I didn't saw that post so i can't say.
But checking both accounts i guess its obvious why he deleted that post if he posted it from ito-marketing.
Seems like foxpop did now what ito-marketing aka itomarketing tried to prevent.Getting negetiv tagged for participating here.
Btw @Foxpup .According to Theymos you are misusing the trust feedback.Ito-marketing even posted its not worth fighting in another thread and you post your copy and paste bullshit of Conspiring ? .
I feel sorry for him you keep harrasing him but on the other side keep doing it as quicker you will be kicked out.


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Not to mention that all of you fucknuggets pining for my dox are violating rule #2 here:
Which doxx are you claiming i have posted ?There is only a zip code from a screenshot which you claim is fake.All other information have been blurred.
If someone else claims that this postal code have been used before and i put a link to that old thread how can you accuse me of publishing your personal information?
You still didn't even answered if the postal code from the screenshot matches or not.


legendary
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February 09, 2019, 09:46:02 PM
#72
You have acknowledged your dox, and have posted your dox within your posting history, and as such (to the extent information is found within your posting history), posting your dox is allowed, even with the new rules. If you are reporting posts with this information, you either do not understand the rules, do not care about the rules, or are trying to cause problems for people that do not like you.

Show me where it is in my post history and I'll report it to get moved to Investigations. Better yet, report it yourself and stop looking for excuses to dox me. I do not consent to any of my personal information to be posted publicly regardless of what you're saying. You do not decide that. IS THAT CLEAR?

Not to mention that all of you fucknuggets pining for my dox are violating rule #2 here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-investigations-board-restrictions-on-posting-personal-information-1576015

And no, a fake screenshot doesn't count as a plausible scam accusation.
copper member
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February 09, 2019, 06:56:09 PM
#71
I hate to burst your bubble, but you have publicly acknowledged your dox and is publicly available on your post history.

From the looks of it, the accusation in the OP is frivolous, but exposing your dox will only post what you have posted.

Bullshit. My dox was posted before theymos changed the rules and there was fuck all I could do at the time other than smile and take it on the chin. After the Investigations board was established I started reporting all occurrences to be moved there but it's a fucking whack-a-mole when assholes like Thule and you don't give a shit about rules. You should also report it when you see it, instead of gloating and using my dox when you disagree with me in P&S.
You have acknowledged your dox, and have posted your dox within your posting history, and as such (to the extent information is found within your posting history), posting your dox is allowed, even with the new rules. If you are reporting posts with this information, you either do not understand the rules, do not care about the rules, or are trying to cause problems for people that do not like you.


Such righteous. Tell your scammer buddy above to do the same with the "pill addiction" thread  Smiley
In the case of this thread, the OP got his information from a zero post newbie account, and I got my information from someone who I have reason to trust, and have reason to believe. The OP has not described what he asked his source, while I have explained how specifically my source claims to know the information provided to me.

The above is a distinction you either have not noticed, or more likely do not care about and have ignored.
legendary
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February 09, 2019, 05:00:21 PM
#70
Ha ha the one who has been accused of being my alt by suchmoon ?

Not exactly...
The one accused by suchmoon is itomarketing.
The one that posted here then deleted is ito-marketing
sr. member
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February 09, 2019, 03:31:24 PM
#69
Ha ha the one who has been accused of being my alt by suchmoon ?
legendary
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February 09, 2019, 03:25:39 PM
#68
Thule multiple people have seen your post from your other account, deleting it has failed. Unfortunately, we didn't archive it in time. Cheesy
The ito-marketing one?  Yeah, I saw that and was wondering about it.  Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me for a minute, not that it surprised me one bit.

I can vouch for this too.  Cool
legendary
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February 09, 2019, 03:25:09 PM
#67
Thule multiple people have seen your post from your other account, deleting it has failed. Unfortunately, we didn't archive it in time. Cheesy
The ito-marketing one?  Yeah, I saw that and was wondering about it.  Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me for a minute, not that it surprised me one bit.
Yeah that one, one more person asked me about it. I wonder if he's gonna deny it now. Roll Eyes
legendary
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February 09, 2019, 03:23:21 PM
#66
Thule multiple people have seen your post from your other account, deleting it has failed. Unfortunately, we didn't archive it in time. Cheesy
The ito-marketing one?  Yeah, I saw that and was wondering about it.  Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me for a minute, not that it surprised me one bit.
legendary
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February 09, 2019, 03:19:55 PM
#65
Thule multiple people have seen your post from your other account, deleting it has failed. Unfortunately, we didn't archive it in time. Cheesy
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