Topic: Suggestion: allow on-forum altcoin giveaways for established altcoins - page 4. (Read 1033 times)

I did not mean any problem there so period here of course, means we are on the same page.

Yes, but it's a special board for that kind of thing and this being a Bitcoin forum (and lacking a better way of doing it) I can understand why such exceptions exist.

I don't really see why allow it for altcoins unless Bitcointalk actually needs to promote certain altcoins for whatever reason. What would that reason be?

Yes you have a point but we can not expect all the users will have greater handling power than the mods. What I mean by that is: not everyone will know that we will have to convert the coins to bitcoin and promote. So, still we will see topics where we will find it ultimately falls in the criteria of altcoin giveaway.


Here we are talking about spamming issue which still we can see if the payment method is bitcoin. Example: games and rounds and other prediction type threads like what will be the bitcoin price in x time etc. Most of them are very low effort posts, aren't they?

No, you are not wrong in the context.

If it's not possible to convert to Bitcoin then such a horrible shitcoin wouldn't fit the OP's criteria either.

And - correct me if I'm wrong - it's not the actual giveaways that are forbidden, it's the "I want to join this giveaway, here's my address" type of posts. In other words, if someone wants to run an altcoin giveaway outside of the forum and even link it here - that should be fine. As long as they don't incentivize low-effort posting/bumping.

Allowing one altcoin giveaway to be discussed here and denying another doesn’t seem to fit with free speech.

It's a common sense that the altcoin giveaway rule was meant to prevent all those shitloads of useless coins when forum was flooding by them but since the situations has changed I will agree here with some others that the rules needs a change if possible.

Besides, if this giveaway things were not confusing then we would not see much talk about it. I was one of the user who was banned recently too even after knowing the rule but really could not identify the nature in the topic.

Technically it does but I think we want here a common ground where we will see it preserve the forum interest of not to get spammed and also legit promotions from established companies/projects.

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Yes, some of these guys get the tickets but this is not solving the issue we have here. If we consider the recent ban issue applied to some of us and still there are some who are under the same rules and possibly still in ban status means one thing which is the rule is not very clear. There are still some campaigns (not complaining against them coz I do not see any problem there) which has hundreds of users responded but from their OP it looks like they did not clearly mentioned if the giveaway will be in BTC or any other altcoin. If the rules need to be applied to them then we will see a mess ban where more than few hundreds of users will be banned and I do not think this will look good for all of us.

Not sure but may be it's not possible all the times? Who knows.

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I think hilariousandco said somewhere that in this kind of situation trashing the thread will be a good thing instead of banning everyone who joined and to make it more flexible in my opinion whoever will be the topic creator will get a PM from the mod about the post that this kind of giveaway is not allowed so their post got trashed and if they post the same topic again only then they (the topic creator) will get x days ban. This my personal opinion by the way.

I'm for it, even though I'm really not interested in 99.9999% of existing alts right now. How do we decide which alts are considered "established" or not though? I assume probably alts that are in the top 20/50/100 on Coinmarketcap? If not, it's going to be hella difficult as certain alts being established/legitimate or not is quite subjective. Probably the last thing we like to see is mods and users battling it out arguing if x coin/token is considered a scam or not LOL.

Instead of complicating things with exchange rates, definition of what is considered established, etc, why couldn't the entity running the giveaway just convert it to Bitcoin? This is a Bitcoin forum.

Imagine the outcry and rivers of red trust if someone were to run e.g. a BSV giveaway. I mean it's established isn't it...

A bit. But even the shitty ones can have value, so it will come down to whether or not they can be exchanged for Bitcoin. The next problem will be coins that are only traded on shitty exchanges. I'm glad I don't have to think of all the details, all I do is make a suggestion

Agree with you Loyce, we’ve all seen the mess that can happen when people advertise airdrops & true shitcoins in the Altcoin Sub but I don’t think posters or indeed the actual casino or sportsbook should be punished for posting in or creating an altcoin giveaway, especially when the casino or sportsbook accepts the altcoin.

I’m a bitcoin maximalist, I own a good stash of bitcoin & have very little interest in alts, however we have to allow alts room to grow. Hey, most alt profits end up being pumped back into bitcoin any way so I 100% agree with you, Loyce.

Certain giveaways should be allowed, it’s quite obvious which threads are designed to spam the hell out of this place & which threads are genuinely created with good intentions, the casinos or sports-books growth & their punters interests at heart.

The TRX giveaway saw Bitcasino.io Support (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitcasinoio-support-2087138 ) banned for 30 days, I think their ban should also be lifted.

Doesn't this include moderators making decisions about which altcoins are shitty and which are not ? It would make it more like altcoins are moderated which is avoided here from the start.

Two days ago, I wrote this in response to theymos ending the 7-day ban on many users:
I received a PM asking to create this thread anyway, and my post in the locked thread will soon be forgotten, so here it is

A better description may be to allow on-forum altcoin giveaways if the giveaway is not meant to promote the altcoin itself (which is probably what lead to spam in the past), but instead promotes for instance a website (this could be a casino, a mixer, or an exchange) that uses the altcoin . The coin itself shouldn't be the main reason for the giveaway, but it should be worth enough to have an actual cost for the company that runs the giveaway. So no tokens make up out of thin air (like the Bounty board).

Background of this request: this now deleted thread offered 8000 TRX as a prize, currently worth $92. I don't think a promotion like that hurts the forum, so I'd like those to be allowed.