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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

After reading replies from some threads on this gambling discussion board, I see that many people have already delivered suggestions related to various problems of gamblers. Now, it depends on us to follow or ignore the suggestions. Or we can take a look at the suggestions that are suitable for our problems. Here are below:

1. You shouldn't spend much money because it will harm the family. (Limit your funds)
2. You must have good self-control, it is one of the keys to be successful in gambling.
3. You mustn't get loans, you will be trapped in debt at the end.
4. After you can win in a gambling game, you are better to stop. Don't be greedy!
5. Don't expect much to win in gambling, most of them are luck-based. Think rationally!
6. Don't spend all your time gambling, have enough time for family, friends, and society.
7. Etc

What do you think, guys? Are all the suggestions worthed to follow by all gamblers? Let's discuss it, you can give any feedback or opinions.
Please let me know if there are other good suggestions! I will add them to OP if I think it is a nice one. I really hope this will be helpful for us.

It's good to see this words of advice here but actually that's not happening in reality since still many gamblers do what you are saying since they want to have a money for capital in gambling because there are still people denying to accept the fact that they are got affected to much by their vices. But if this suggestions will be followed we can't see our neighbors selling their stuff and other things around Cheesy

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Indeed, it is not as easy ad making as making a do' s and dont list, applying these things would be hard because it would require self discipline and control which are things that cannot be initiated by most of the people due to urges and desires. The list, are the things which is ideal but still, there are gamblers who are being dragged by addiction and that simply proves the difference between enumerating and making plans from the actual.

Quote from: joshy23 on April 06, 2020, 06:45:47 AM

Good point OP, taking this perspectives before playing will allow you to have a good mindset and avoid you to make a high risk betting activities. If you have this practice inside you, the risk will be much lesser. Most of the time those gamblers who knows how to handle pressures and didn't listen to their emotional side are the one who able to enjoy and gain decent profits from this activities.

But most of the time, expectations and plans do not meet the reality. That is how powerful money is. No matter how you set a point to stop, once you are hooked up into gambling, it would be hard to escape. Huge losses, frustrations and stress would make a gambler urge for a 'comeback' and hope that he would someday achieve the goal of winning bigtime, not knowing that his losses are bigger already than his desired 'win'. That's how addiction works, if I would say.

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With the point number three (3), if we say we should not loan in order to have funds to bet on, I think it is quite similar alike in saying that gambling always leads to losses in the end. And we are just strengthening our belief to the phrase "Only bet amounts you can afford to lose". It is quite one sided to think about this, because there are also some instances that people win in gambling, they could win the jackpot and takeaway amounts that might change their life into positivity and escape poverty because of gambling.

Well, I found the reason why, I think it is because we are considering the frequency of gambler's life turns out to be miserable. Yeah, honestly I believe that the probability of overall winning is lower than losing in all games.

But we should think that it's like a lottery, the chance of winning is low, but if we are lucky, it could change our life depending on how we will react to the outcome.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

1. You shouldn't spend much money because it will harm the family. (Limit your funds)

How much the money to spend will be subjective and should be different between one gambler to another gambler. It will be hard to determine the amount of money. However, I do agree that a gambler must limit his funds. Spend all money to gambling is indeed a stupid idea. Only a careless one does that poor idea, I even never think to use extra money once I have lost all funds in a single day. Sometimes we must admit that it is not our day or not our luck. If we don't limit our funds, even we can lose everything in a single day, including home or cars. How to deal with this all, the key is to control yourself (point 2). I assume that point 1 and 2 are still closely related. Wink

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All those advice look great to a person who is not addicted. But if someone is addicted to gambling, than he surely won't follow any advice. It's like telling a passionate smoker to limit the number of cigarettes per day. He will follow that limit for a certain time, but after few days he will light one more and the next day another one more and so on... A gambling addict will do the same - he will always want to gamble for one more minute because he is certain that the next one is a winning bet.

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The most common argument for people who oppose online gambling is that you can't limit how many hours people spend. At land casinos, people can't stay there forever because they have to go back home, take a shower, eat and drink (meals there pretty expensive), etc. It's like a "natural limitation." Without forcing gamblers to leave, they will eventually go home automatically.

Meanwhile, in online gambling, everything depends on your chakra (self-control lol):

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

2. You must have good self-control, it is one of the keys to be successful in gambling.
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6. Don't spend all your time gambling, have enough time for family, friends, and society.

Some online casinos impose a time out or cool down moment, but users will feel forced to leave, or if they have multiple accounts, they will still play.

I don't have any idea how to solve this issue except to harden your chakra. Any idea?

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Good point OP, taking this perspectives before playing will allow you to have a good mindset and avoid you to make a high risk betting activities. If you have this practice inside you, the risk will be much lesser. Most of the time those gamblers who knows how to handle pressures and didn't listen to their emotional side are the one who able to enjoy and gain decent profits from this activities.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

1. You shouldn't spend much money because it will harm the family. (Limit your funds)
2. You must have good self-control, it is one of the keys to be successful in gambling.
3. You mustn't get loans, you will be trapped in debt at the end.
4. After you can win in a gambling game, you are better to stop (break for a while). Don't be greedy to push your luck!
5. Don't expect much to win in gambling, most of them are luck-based. Think rationally!
6. Don't spend all your time gambling, have enough time for family, friends, and society.
7. Etc

I simply believe only the second suggestion will be more than enough for any gambler because when you are having good self-control then you will be able to keep everything under your control which must be the only think that most gamblers are lagging.

I mean when you are good in self-control then you will not spend big money in gambling. This will enable there is no need for getting loans for your gambling purposes. When you're in control, you will not look for getting easy money from gambling and you will understand that all gambling is just luck based one and playing with it hard will not yield anything and obviously a strong self-control will not let you spend more time with gambling

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 07:20:49 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on April 05, 2020, 07:04:45 PM

I think there's no need for further discussion. As you said you already see what other people suggested and advice to those who have various problems in doing gambling on other threads.

Recheck above! I said "some threads", not all threads as it is a bit impossible. That's why I still need any feedback to complete or add another one (if any).
Also, I think to discuss the suggestion to gamblers is a good thing, why stop it? At least, remind all gamblers about it.

Quote from: goinmerry on April 05, 2020, 07:04:45 PM

Those listed suggestions are basic things to follow and actually, should be an automatic approach by each of a gambler.

That's a basic thing but not easy to do, right? As it is a basic thing, it means an important thing. Some people may forget or others may don't know as they are newbies. So, in my opinion, we need to remind all gamblers about it. But if you think some people have already mastered it and have no single problem, just skip reading. Wink

For me, I suggest you to stop gamble for the mean time as you have something to prioritize not only gambling. If you have family to feed for then you should spend you money wisely because all of the workers are not allowed to go to their jobs because if the risk of getting the virus from workmate. Online gambling is helpful if you really want to gambling but just think of the necessities that you need to have, foods, clothes, medicines, and etc. This Covid-19 is the issue here now, we all know that we can get through this someday, this is just temporary, we don't know when this will end but you should plan and budget you money so that you prevent scarcity in food and funds. Gambling platforms and casinos are always there but being healthy is very essential during times like this. Prioritize health and safety first before gambling so that sooner or later you can still gambling comfortably after this crisis ends.

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These are the common advice we encounter here in the forum. Following it won't put you in trouble, in fact, it will help you to control yourself. These suggestions are what we need in order to become a smart gambler. It's like the basic things or principles that you should keep in your mind before gambling. Maybe you can add there that it's not good to think about gambling as a main source of income because it is not. Although you can gain profit from it, it's not permanent. There are times you will lose money. Sometimes, losses are more often than winning in gambling. In gambling, winning is short term happiness but losing is a long term struggle we can face. It's better to think of the other possibilities before risking all of our money.

Applying this list is our own choice. If we think that it's for the better, we can follow it. We can't say that in reality, people don't actually follow this because it's our own choice. We are big enough to know the consequences of gambling.

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 05, 2020, 07:03:17 PM

Quote from: Gyfts on April 05, 2020, 06:37:42 PM

A lot of this advice applies to normal gamblers that play on land based casinos too. But the main thing I see is that with quarantines in place, people will throw money away through online gambling if because they're bored, lose, then continually redepositing because there isn't anything else to do. Have fun with gambling but don't depend on it to occupy all of you're time because it can become an expensive hobby.

Right, this suggestions also applies if you are a traditional gamblers as well. However, since the Covid-19 pandemic, many of us is affected and very well be prioritising things in life now. And the lock down could lead us to contemplate what is going on with our life specially our gambling activity in the past.

So it is very important that we should limit our spending right now specially in gambling as the future is bleak and there could be recession. Maybe some of us have lost their job because of the pandemic, so for gamblers out there, I will just advise to just take it easy and watch out the money that you are going to spend with your gambling.

Basically this topic is not new to our eyes as the number of newbies/beginners in online gambling is always increasing. The fundamental skills in gambling is also applicable online and it is safe to play online gambling during this pandemic. You're not allowed to go outside so the number 1 advantages of this online gambling is that, it is flexible that you can gamble anywhere, you just need funds, stable internet connection and a device. But during the crisis like this, we should focus more on the safety of each and everyone because the spread of virus is fast and can travel from a country to another country. Instead of gambling, you should spend you funds or money to more valuable things that will help you survive this quarantine. If you have a spare money after you fulfill your necessities in everyday lives, it is reasonable that you can gamble with your free time for an entertainment purposes just don't forget that never gamble outside.

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Nice advice mate, giving advice to gamblers is really important because if they get so hard on gambling or if they become addict on gambling then it can destroy their lives. Limiting the budget of the gambler will not be enought I think because if they really want to play or to gamble they will make ways to happen, they may borrow some money on their friends or to the loaners and that is really bad thing that gamblers may do.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

2. You must have good self-control, it is one of the keys to be successful in gambling.

This should be the Mother of all advises given because If Gamblers don't have this?then for sure His life will ruin at all chances.

because i have known someone who does.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

3. You mustn't get loans, you will be trapped in debt at the end.

This is the Shit and damn stupidity i will ever do in life,taking loan just to gamble is a suicide .

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

4. After you can win in a gambling game, you are better to stop (break for a while). Don't be greedy to push your luck!

because Luck will not always in our side thats why we need to at least rest for a while after winning or else you will lose more than what you win.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

5. Don't expect much to win in gambling, most of them are luck-based. Think rationally!

looking for too much is always a dead end for every gamblers or even investors.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

6. Don't spend all your time gambling, have enough time for family, friends, and society.

Well our work and family must be our priority and not what anything else.

What do you think, guys? Are all the suggestions worthed to follow by all gamblers?.
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Well said mate, all tips and advice you have been mentioned are really helpful to them but the problem is how to execute to themselves. Sometimes they forgot these just because of greed and probably gamblers are always chasing money not just for fun.

Let me add something that based on my opinion.

Don't gamble if you are depressed, stress or something has negative emotion in your self.
Always think gambling is a form of entertainment, not a way of making money
Always set a time limit of how long your session in gambling
Decide to stop when you are in a win-win situation, the more time you gamble, a big chance to lose.

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Quote from: Sadlife on April 06, 2020, 01:32:20 AM

Easier said than done most people when their winning it gets pretty much hard to stop especially in HILO games your mind gets programmed to repeat the same action over and over again until you hit a higher price then continue.
It gets pretty hard to have a stop loss especially when gou might have the chance to win jackpot or big money.

I guess if they win on the games, they tempt to continue gambling as they can think that this time is my best time to have luck, so I need to continue again before my chance is gone. That is not always right because they cannot have a guarantee to win in the next round, and if somehow, they can win much money, it is better to stop the games. Yes, self-control is necessary to have while we gamble, so we don't get in the trap inside the games, and we can stop gambling as soon as possible.

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Easier said than done most people when their winning it gets pretty much hard to stop especially in HILO games your mind gets programmed to repeat the same action over and over again until you hit a higher price then continue.
It gets pretty hard to have a stop loss especially when gou might have the chance to win jackpot or big money.

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These suggestions will obviously help gamblers to at least remind themselves when they are in the midst of addiction. However, a person can sometimes cannot control the orgasm they are experiencing due to the frustrations and winning moments that leads them to get addicted and shift their mind to continue the pleasure or grief they feel. Self help alone is really not enough.

I am new to online gambling and still exploring the nature of it, but I do play traditional gambling particularly poker and InBetween. These games actually gives me pleasure and disappointment at the same time until I become addicted due to the repetitive card game involvement. Honestly, the suggestions from above can quite sometime difficult to follow which makes consulting to a psychiatrist is a better option.

Cognitive behavioural therapy is I think one of the alternative method to decrease the potential harm of addiction specifically when some someone is showing these kinds of bad self control.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

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What do you think, guys? Are all the suggestions worthed to follow by all gamblers?

Almost all the best advice is on the list and I think gamblers should consider it. That would have a positive effect for gamblers in my opinion. Good effort, mate.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

Please let me know if there are other good suggestions!

Dont trust the strategy 100%. Yes, strategy is the gamblers attempt to win every bet and game they play. I just think that everyone has their own way of gambling and if a gambler fully believes in strategy and risks everything on one occasion, then I am very sure they will get more harm than they might win. Although the strategy is not a prohibited effort, but if you entrust it 100% to get the victory I think you are wrong because there is no strategy that can guarantee the gambler to win at every opportunity.

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I think the list says it all. It all depends on gamblers how will they handle their time and money when gambling because no matter what advice or principles they set when gambling, in the end, they will break it. Self-control, discipline, and your will not be driven by greed will save you from being addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

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1. You shouldn't spend much money because it will harm the family. (Limit your funds)
2. You must have good self-control, it is one of the keys to be successful in gambling.

These 2 is relatively the same because if you have no Self control then you cannot Limit your Money to be spent in gambling.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

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4. After you can win in a gambling game, you are better to stop (break for a while). Don't be greedy to push your luck!

again this is connected in Self Control because you will not stand in table specially when you are winning because greed will take over your mind.

but Better to Give also specific target of winnings just like when you allocate losing amount.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

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5. Don't expect much to win in gambling, most of them are luck-based. Think rationally!

Exactly this is it,Gambling must not be the place to find money but to find Happiness and if you win?then take it as consolation or a Bonus.

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Quote from: maxreish on April 05, 2020, 09:37:15 PM

Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 05, 2020, 06:31:42 PM

6. Don't spend all your time gambling, have enough time for family, friends, and society.

This is the one that is most significant. We shouldn't forget to spend quality time with our loved ones either family or friends. I honestly forget sometimes to have a bond with my family because I am overwhelm sometimes with the fun cause by this gambling sites.
This to remind us that we should always put our family in our prirority list first. As we aren't aware that the bond and the rapport are slowly fading because of gambling.

Those tips you have mentioned were all useful for a typical gambler who are forgetting the right track as a good gambler. If those mentioned aboved were forgotten, addiction comes in remember that.

This is the main problem of most gamblers nowadays,

They always spend too much time in gambling without realizing that they have forgot to have enough time with their family. Even I have experienced this before, where I don't give any of my time with my family since I am more focus on playing.

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