Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1205.

thejestre

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Quote from: Phoenix1969 on October 27, 2013, 01:41:31 PM

Quote from: thejestre on October 27, 2013, 01:34:46 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on October 27, 2013, 01:16:36 AM

Ill bet you find the credentials are entered wrong, or something like that
was it running before?, or u just got it?

The credentials are entered fine. I'm not even trying to enter more than 1 pool.
I just received my unit. Put my info in to the .95 settings, it started hashing ~80-90 Ghash/sec. Upgraded firmware to 0.97, started hashing ~10 Ghash/sec.

I'm sure it isn't just bad credentials. Am I supposed to do anything after applying the new firmware? There doesn't even seem to be much that could be done in the web GUI. Do I need to SSH to the thing to make 0.97 work?

Thank you,

_theJestre

I had similar experience with all of the restarts, and was cured by power-cycling the machine. I highly recommend 0.97 as well... it will work.

Sometimes when hitting the warm reboot button for an upgrade, it seems to start a second instance of cgminer, and cause problems, which a power-cycle cured, this happened almost every time I reflashed.

any time I change firmware, I have to power cycle the sats.(instead of reboot)
and by power cycle, I mean physically using the power supply to turn the miner off for 20 seconds.

You may also need to clear your browser casche, and close the browser, reopen...

Well, I really would like to run 0.97 but it isn't working on my Mercury. I tried the enablecores.bin and I swear I did power cycle it by turning off the PSU. Maybe I'll try again later, trying to see if 0.96 can work better than 0.95 now.

Looks like 0.96 is a dud to me as well, trying 0.96.1 now.

Thanks for the suggestions,

_theJestre

EDIT: In 0.96.1 I saw 105 Ghash/sec for a brief minute after a power cycle, then it dropped steadily until ~10 Ghash/sec again. Is that indicative of some kind of known problem?

Phoenix1969

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Quote from: timmmers on October 27, 2013, 01:54:58 PM

Quote from: jelin1984 on October 27, 2013, 12:59:56 PM

So final
The Jupiter work better when is harm or when is it cold? Huh

??

Someone suggested aiming a hair drier at it, done CAREFULLY that would give you a good indication.

They certainly run waaay better at 55-65, than at 35-45.

timmmers

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Quote from: jelin1984 on October 27, 2013, 12:59:56 PM

So final
The Jupiter work better when is harm or when is it cold? Huh

??

Someone suggested aiming a hair drier at it, done CAREFULLY that would give you a good indication.

Phoenix1969

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Quote from: thejestre on October 27, 2013, 01:34:46 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on October 27, 2013, 01:16:36 AM

Ill bet you find the credentials are entered wrong, or something like that
was it running before?, or u just got it?

The credentials are entered fine. I'm not even trying to enter more than 1 pool.
I just received my unit. Put my info in to the .95 settings, it started hashing ~80-90 Ghash/sec. Upgraded firmware to 0.97, started hashing ~10 Ghash/sec.

I'm sure it isn't just bad credentials. Am I supposed to do anything after applying the new firmware? There doesn't even seem to be much that could be done in the web GUI. Do I need to SSH to the thing to make 0.97 work?

Thank you,

_theJestre

I had similar experience with all of the restarts, and was cured by power-cycling the machine. I highly recommend 0.97 as well... it will work.

Sometimes when hitting the warm reboot button for an upgrade, it seems to start a second instance of cgminer, and cause problems, which a power-cycle cured, this happened almost every time I reflashed.

any time I change firmware, I have to power cycle the sats.(instead of reboot)
and by power cycle, I mean physically using the power supply to turn the miner off for 20 seconds.

You may also need to clear your browser casche, and close the browser, reopen...

thejestre

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Quote from: Phoenix1969 on October 27, 2013, 01:16:36 AM

Ill bet you find the credentials are entered wrong, or something like that
was it running before?, or u just got it?

The credentials are entered fine. I'm not even trying to enter more than 1 pool.
I just received my unit. Put my info in to the .95 settings, it started hashing ~80-90 Ghash/sec. Upgraded firmware to 0.97, started hashing ~10 Ghash/sec.

I'm sure it isn't just bad credentials. Am I supposed to do anything after applying the new firmware? There doesn't even seem to be much that could be done in the web GUI. Do I need to SSH to the thing to make 0.97 work?

Thank you,

_theJestre

Phoenix1969

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Quote from: FeedbackLoop on October 27, 2013, 12:43:33 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on October 27, 2013, 12:23:14 PM

Mine are rock solid now, all night, no flux

No flux means all fans off case closed?

I never said I removed the heatsink fans. I would not do that.

The heatsink fans are just as they came stock. Just no case fans, or any others.
open cases, stacked.

sbfree

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Quote from: soy on October 23, 2013, 10:30:10 AM

Wow, my first found block. On Slush. A few days ago, I just noticed. Can't think of any other reason this one Found Block is listed on my profile page. The block number 265105.

soy, I am approaching 100M submitted (plus others I had on bitminter) shares on BTCG and still no block found....lucky you! and so much for solo mining unless you have terrahashes

sbfree

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Quote from: jelin1984 on October 27, 2013, 12:59:56 PM

So final
The Jupiter work better when is harm or when is it cold? Huh

??

jelin, I think each saturn/jupiter has it's own individual quirks. So the changes you make will depend on your unit, of course with the intent of more hashing power which ultimately leads to more submitted work/shares to your mining op. WITHOUT destroying your miner. Ask away....or read up....last 50 so pages have some good stuff...

DigginDeep

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Quote from: jelin1984 on October 27, 2013, 12:59:56 PM

So final
The Jupiter work better when is harm or when is it cold? Huh

??

Mine without a doubt when its a bit warmer, Mine dose not need to be super hot. But dose not like the cold. Maybe its just because mine is a Hawaiian Miner lol.

jelin1984

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So final
The Jupiter work better when is harm or when is it cold? Huh

??

DigginDeep

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So once again keeping the room warm at night has paid off. When i was letting the room cool off at night when i woke up and checked my stats on eligius it would be in the Low -mid 400 GH/s around 430 , then i switched to BTCguild to try it out. witch it was not any better there until i kept the door shut at night. Before when i woke up the temps would all be in the high 30c Mostly about 39c Now two of them run in low 50s high 40s. Seems my back two boards are the more troubled ones and need to be more warm to preform better, When the run cooler they have more disabled cores and my error rate shoots over in to the double digits. Now i don't need to get them as hot as some people on here witch are bringing them in the to 60c range. But then again i ave not tried this to see if there would be any improvement. And doubt i will, I don't mind keeping them running in the low 50s, But here are what my stats where this morning when waking up this morning.
https://i.imgur.com/P43JuNI.png
https://i.imgur.com/JLxVDl4.png

Edited....
Now only if i could get it to be stable at the 695gh/s I could dream. Wonder if i could ever see it break in to the 700s
https://i.imgur.com/qmM1VQj.png

RHA

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Temperaturewise, it was wise move on KnC side to choose UPS to have the devices delivered with the fans off heatsinks. Wink

Being "off" is a factory state.
Why we made a mistake of remounting them?

FeedbackLoop

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Quote from: timmmers on October 27, 2013, 12:43:51 PM

Pool and cg miner agree, within half a GH and have done since I got it the only change being updating to .97 which added 4 Gh , 36C at the moment.
I'd love to know the story behind temps ..but what works is more important I suppose.

I imagine your HW is mighty low then, like with all nice performing machines. Also I suspect that no mercuries have been shipped with poor boards since machines get tested after being fully assembled (more bad boards slipping/being masked in jupiters, less in mercuries).

ekiro

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Can KnC ever release another miner that will be profitable?

Looking at the difficulty growth, and the pricy hardware, I see no positive ROI on mining yourself anymore.

From now on KnC will manufacture their own, mine with them, then sell the hardware off to recover some money.

Don't be the guy buying second hand garbage.

timmmers

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Quote from: FeedbackLoop on October 27, 2013, 12:28:33 PM

Quote from: timmmers on October 27, 2013, 12:25:21 PM

Quote from: RHA on October 27, 2013, 11:41:49 AM

I was right when I signaled two weeks ago at #kncminer channel that the Saturn seems to work better in higher temperature.
Now many people confirm it.
Going from 40-42 C to 48.5-50 C moves avg from 267 to 274 (at cgminer AND at the pool) and WU from 3850-3900 to 4010.

So, how is my merc running at 140 at 38C ? that equates to 280 for 2 modules.
I think temp increases only help some modules that for some reason aren't in the best condition. Expansion somewhere being the logical reason.

It seems to help with hardware errors. Either the clock tolerance thing or one of the assorted mechanical/ solder ball stuff. Who knows! Maybe the way to know for sure would be to play with the clock (if possible in any way). Slightly lower clock leading to significantly less errors would indicate the clock tolerance thing rather than a mechanical/connection thing.

Also make sure you are not just taking those 140 for granted from KNC's cgminer and that you are either computing those from shares, measuring at pool, or that your hardware error rate is negligible.

Pool and cg miner agree, within half a GH and have done since I got it the only change being updating to .97 which added 4 Gh , 36C at the moment.
I'd love to know the story behind temps ..but what works is more important I suppose.

FeedbackLoop

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Quote from: Phoenix1969 on October 27, 2013, 12:23:14 PM

Mine are rock solid now, all night, no flux

No flux means all fans off case closed?

FeedbackLoop

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Quote from: timmmers on October 27, 2013, 12:25:21 PM

Quote from: RHA on October 27, 2013, 11:41:49 AM

I was right when I signaled two weeks ago at #kncminer channel that the Saturn seems to work better in higher temperature.
Now many people confirm it.
Going from 40-42 C to 48.5-50 C moves avg from 267 to 274 (at cgminer AND at the pool) and WU from 3850-3900 to 4010.

So, how is my merc running at 140 at 38C ? that equates to 280 for 2 modules.
I think temp increases only help some modules that for some reason aren't in the best condition. Expansion somewhere being the logical reason.

It seems to help with hardware errors. Either the clock tolerance thing or one of the assorted mechanical/ solder ball stuff. Who knows! Maybe the way to know for sure would be to play with the clock (if possible in any way). Slightly lower clock leading to significantly less errors would indicate the clock tolerance thing rather than a mechanical/connection thing.

Also make sure you are not just taking those 140 for granted from KNC's cgminer and that you are either computing those from shares, measuring at pool, or that your hardware error rate is negligible.

timmmers

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Quote from: sbfree on October 27, 2013, 11:59:17 AM

soy, phoenix1969, btc_uzr, (and all others I forget) WHO ARE THE UNOFFICIAL CUSTOMER SUPPORT TEAM for KNC,

I THANK YOU.

I know there many who have contributed their knowledge, expertise, and testing stats, you are included in that thank you.

I know there should be more honorable mentions, so please cont. to mention them in your replies....since this is the only true form of support we have currently. I do thank knc for their efforts as well, as they did surmount that mountain peak.

You got that right, KNC have been useless. Can you imagine how much trouble people would have had without the threads and discussions on here and their own forum? They can't even answer the phone from what I see, that's so bad after all the money they have taken from customers.

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Quote from: RHA on October 27, 2013, 11:41:49 AM

I was right when I signaled two weeks ago at #kncminer channel that the Saturn seems to work better in higher temperature.
Now many people confirm it.
Going from 40-42 C to 48.5-50 C moves avg from 267 to 274 (at cgminer AND at the pool) and WU from 3850-3900 to 4010.

So, how is my merc running at 140 at 38C ? that equates to 280 for 2 modules.
I think temp increases only help some modules that for some reason aren't in the best condition. Expansion somewhere being the logical reason.

Phoenix1969

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Thanks for the mention and thank you for thanking me...lolz
you made my morning...Good morning all

just to clarify... I truly believe SOME of the Temperature phenomena is caused by loose heatsink bar screws. Mine are rock solid now, all night, no flux

This was especially true with the saturn that took a long time to ramp up to speed, and would speed up during the day, and slow down at night. Its the fastest one now, and ramps up very quickly now.

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