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Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1227. (Read 3049528 times)

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legendary
Activity: 1428
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October 24, 2013, 09:52:25 AM
concerning the changelogs, you could compare code on https://github.com/KnCMiner to get a clue what has been changed - but for sure it's not the same like a simple changelog you read in short time.

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Any tips how solve the random miner stoping / freezing after 30-60min ? Pleseeee? It doesn't manke sense waisting more electricity then you mine back  Tongue + a fact .97 decrease the speed from 100 to a 1.7Ghas

After reading yesterday's reports about 0.97 I was really close to upgrade - was just too tired in the evening and not in the mood to deal with possible issues.
Meanwhile I'm quite happy I'm still on 0.95.


UPDATE YOUR MINER TO THE LATEST FIRMWARE

Somehow I'm not sure how to rate KnCMiner's software development and quality assurance in general, as it seems they do neither proper testing, nor understand the root causes of issues since each time there's one solved, but another appears..
I'm happy they're better in hw development, otherwise Jupiter would hash with 290GH/s only while consuming 1kW, I guess  Tongue

Honestly I'm getting more and more disappointed about this.
Especially when considering that cgminer's devs could have prevented it very very likely, but KnCMiner was so self confident they will do it better, cheaper, faster (?!).

I do not like to think about the difference in mined coins until now.  Undecided


i think this( cheaper) was their only concern. faster & better are non-existent terms with these guys - confidence - bucketsfull


I can't agree with your assessment.  I just upgraded a Jalapeno fan.  That company was the first Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer in production and a KnC designer may have tried taking a Jalapeno apart and putting it back together.  Probably the reason so many Jalapeno users opt not to put it back in the case.  All the room in a KnC product almost shouts in comparison that Jalapeno case designer was a sadist.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
October 24, 2013, 09:50:42 AM
So what's new in the world of hobby asic manufacturers KNC today? Crappy firmware updates that send people's hw errors out of control? News updates that never apologise, always some sociopathic words that KNC do no wrong? People with July hosted units being quadruply screwed when people with late August orders being shipped before them?

Yep, another day in the KNC hobby asic manufacturers thread.



P.S. KNC should hire these guys to fix the fuck-up with the datacentre!

http://www.kennemarandcole.se/

Disaster Recovery
Being able to recover quickly from a disaster will allow your business to function again in minutes not weeks, we all know the cost of downtime is not just loss in revenue but loss of reputation.


These guys could have had the data centre fixed and up and running again in minutes! If only KNC had hired them. But I guess they cheaped out once again  Cheesy

So when they say "We have indeed learnt a lot form this experience and we will be using all of those lessons in our future products".

Don't confuse this sentence as them saying they will make a better mining product in future for their customers. They are using your lost bitcoin (I'm up to 9BTC lost as of today since 15th Oct) to give themselves new business opportunities.

Go team KNC! Using customers losses to build a bigger and brighter future for all themselves.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
October 24, 2013, 09:50:16 AM


It really shouldnt have to. A BeagleBone is considerably more powerful than a raspberry pi and I would be surprised if it struggled running 4 or many more modules. If its true the bottleneck is there, it has got to be fixable with a less crappy firmware. And if it really is too slow, it would make sense to just buy a second BBB or Pi, you'd get better performance per $.


I've been asking KNC to sell additional control units for weeks now

That would solve many problems for jupiter owners

as such, I am tempted to run 6 modules in my good jupiter while I mess about with my two lame modules.   Having to have downtime on good modules while trying to fix others is another waste we jupiter owners have to deal with

sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
let's have some fun
October 24, 2013, 09:47:43 AM
what if all cores are already enabled?

Are there 192 cores per asic available and working ?
(check asic test results in /config)
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
October 24, 2013, 09:35:52 AM

0.97 also shows a continuous drop of hashrate for me from 500 to 470 (3 hour average eligius).




Actually.. it doesn't seem to be coming back in any previous firmware. Last value was 450 and that's where it stayed. I read compatible reports on KNC's forum. I fear 0.97 might damage bad Jupiters... Careful upgrading yours.


.96 does seem to be better than .97 on good jupiters.   I haven't tried it on a bad jupiter yet..  so far bad jupiters hash better on .94 'overclocked' running bfgminer but the VRMs/chips do have to take a beating..  perhaps heatsinks?

to 'cure' modules, remove the asic_test file and install .96, run enable cores and few times and reboot.   It should do its 1-2 min asic tests and then reboot itself.  you should have more enabled cores again

hero member
Activity: 752
Merit: 500
October 24, 2013, 09:34:22 AM
I've been away from this thread for a while.  Any answers to fixing hardware errors?  My 1st jup is rocking like clockwork steady 554, usually higher on pool.  2nd is hurting.  HW errors all over.  Cgminer says 530 gh, pool=480-520.  I can hear my 2nd hashing loader than the 1st.  What's up with that?

I'm using .95 on both.  Tried the others. This is the best I get.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1001
October 24, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
KNC GUI & puTTy both show me at 541 all day - BTCG shows 480-500 most of the day.

am i missing something?

Yes you are. Stop measuring speeds at cgminer or go through Kano's posts for how to get the hashrate numbers using the hardware error numbers and so on.

It's really annoying all these people posting meaningless hashrates...



so sorry to be so annoying.... douche!

even more annoying is unhelpful scolding of people asking legitimate questions!

didnt your mother teach you if you have nothing useful to contribute, to keep it shut?

with an attitude like yours maybe you should start an ASIC company...

now about them GH's....

Do i need to post the same shit again to get a decent reply??
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
October 24, 2013, 09:23:15 AM
This is new. Automated replies...

Just sent the following e-mail about my hosted order:

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Good day.

Two more days have passed since the last reply.

I want to know the exact state of your data centre that I paid $1400 to use. I can deduce from reported shipments that you stopped adding new equipment to your data centre on or after the 11th of October. Yet, no existing hosted customers report any significant outages. Are you over capacity?

I know of several people who were after me in the order queue and who got their miner equipment shipped on the 22nd of October, so that it is the date that I am starting to count my losses from, and, as this is a business to business operation, I expect a per-day compensation fines (dagsbøter) to be paid from the 22nd and until such time as my equipment is on-line and operational at the expected performance level.

The size of the fine for a Saturn is calculated to be BTC 0.469 per day until the next difficulty change on the 26th of October, and BTC 0.33 after that. Further fines will be calculated based on the actual difficulty settings.

Best regards,

And almost immediately got the following automated reply:

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Dear Valued Customer,

Thank you for contacting KnCMiner. This is an automated reply to confirm that we have received your inquiry.

We'll be happy to assist you with any questions or concerns and will make every effort to get back to you as quickly as possible.

However, it might take from 1 to 2 business days for you to receive the reply.

Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Customer Support
Kncminer
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
October 24, 2013, 09:23:05 AM
KNC GUI & puTTy both show me at 541 all day - BTCG shows 480-500 most of the day.

am i missing something?

Yes you are. Stop measuring speeds at cgminer or go through Kano's posts for how to get the hashrate numbers using the hardware error numbers and so on.

It's really annoying all these people posting meaningless hashrates...


i think it is even easier, look at cgminer output (GH/s), then go to your pool server stats and look at that hash rate and if they are the same, you are doing very well, if they are not even close then you have a problem.

Except the pool number jumps around. I saw a difference of 20 within two minutes at the pool. Average hashrate at the status screen barely moved. I do have 19% HW errors on 9.7 though.
Fiatkiller, when other KNC Saturn owners are reporting 260GH/s-275GH/s at the server(and on CGminer), while my Saturn reports 215-235GH/s max, I feel that it has something to do with that high error rate our Saturns suffer from.
full member
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"Don't worry. My career died after Batman, too."
October 24, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
I'm noticing an absence of HashFast Trolls in this thread for some reason.  What happened cypherdoc?

 Grin

No 'Orama, no need for balance Tongue

What exactly does Cypherdoc "balance"? Maybe if this was a KNC vs Hashfast thread, then...maybe.
But. It's. Not.
At least he's more articulate than Avenger and has ulterior motive going for him. I will give him that.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Mining for the hell of it.
October 24, 2013, 09:08:23 AM
I WANT MY MINER NOW DAMN IT. Angry
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
October 24, 2013, 09:07:28 AM
KNC GUI & puTTy both show me at 541 all day - BTCG shows 480-500 most of the day.

am i missing something?

Yes you are. Stop measuring speeds at cgminer or go through Kano's posts for how to get the hashrate numbers using the hardware error numbers and so on.

It's really annoying all these people posting meaningless hashrates...


i think it is even easier, look at cgminer output (GH/s), then go to your pool server stats and look at that hash rate and if they are the same, you are doing very well, if they are not even close then you have a problem.

Except the pool number jumps around. I saw a difference of 20 within two minutes at the pool. Average hashrate at the status screen barely moved. I do have 19% HW errors on 9.7 though.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
October 24, 2013, 09:01:40 AM
KNC GUI & puTTy both show me at 541 all day - BTCG shows 480-500 most of the day.

am i missing something?

Yes you are. Stop measuring speeds at cgminer or go through Kano's posts for how to get the hashrate numbers using the hardware error numbers and so on.

It's really annoying all these people posting meaningless hashrates...


i think it is even easier, look at cgminer output (GH/s), then go to your pool server stats and look at that hash rate and if they are the same, you are doing very well, if they are not even close then you have a problem.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
let's have some fun
October 24, 2013, 08:58:51 AM

I do not like to think about the difference in mined coins until now.  Undecided


Well, you mined fewer coins, but so did everyone else using the same software, so proportionally you have no loss.

Those of us hosted customers, who got skipped in the queue, and are still waiting for our miners to get deployed, however....

I've to admit that hosted miners are suffering way more (but they got some BTC compensation as far as I know).
However difference in mined coins was meant in regards of total amount in the wallet, not in relation to the network or hosted customers or sth else.

Yes, I'm happy with my device at 540+ (shown by pool), however it could even be a little better with the help of cgminer devs I assume - and that's all I like to point out in regards to GH/s and hw-errors concerning my quoted statement.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
October 24, 2013, 08:57:52 AM
KNC GUI & puTTy both show me at 541 all day - BTCG shows 480-500 most of the day.

am i missing something?

Yes you are. Stop measuring speeds at cgminer or go through Kano's posts for how to get the hashrate numbers using the hardware error numbers and so on.

It's really annoying all these people posting meaningless hashrates...

legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1001
October 24, 2013, 08:37:13 AM
concerning the changelogs, you could compare code on https://github.com/KnCMiner to get a clue what has been changed - but for sure it's not the same like a simple changelog you read in short time.

----------

Any tips how solve the random miner stoping / freezing after 30-60min ? Pleseeee? It doesn't manke sense waisting more electricity then you mine back  Tongue + a fact .97 decrease the speed from 100 to a 1.7Ghas

After reading yesterday's reports about 0.97 I was really close to upgrade - was just too tired in the evening and not in the mood to deal with possible issues.
Meanwhile I'm quite happy I'm still on 0.95.


UPDATE YOUR MINER TO THE LATEST FIRMWARE

Somehow I'm not sure how to rate KnCMiner's software development and quality assurance in general, as it seems they do neither proper testing, nor understand the root causes of issues since each time there's one solved, but another appears..
I'm happy they're better in hw development, otherwise Jupiter would hash with 290GH/s only while consuming 1kW, I guess  Tongue

Honestly I'm getting more and more disappointed about this.
Especially when considering that cgminer's devs could have prevented it very very likely, but KnCMiner was so self confident they will do it better, cheaper, faster (?!).

I do not like to think about the difference in mined coins until now.  Undecided


i think this( cheaper) was their only concern. faster & better are non-existent terms with these guys - confidence - bucketsfull

im now on .96.1 - WU is below 8000 again - GH/s is slowly climbing back to 520 - see whats up in a few hrs

FFS - its like a sick joke!! - Mining Status

CGMiner Status   Running (pid=1755)
Last Checked   Thu Oct 24 13:54:49 UTC 2013
Avg. Hash Rate   0 Gh/s
WU   0

Difficulty Accepted   192000
HW Status

ASIC slot #1   42.0 ℃
ASIC slot #2   -
ASIC slot #3   48.0 ℃
ASIC slot #4   46.5 ℃
ASIC slot #5   43.0 ℃
ASIC slot #6   -

puTTy avg showing as 3.555Mh/s

WTFF?!

legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
October 24, 2013, 08:35:20 AM

I do not like to think about the difference in mined coins until now.  Undecided


Well, you mined fewer coins, but so did everyone else using the same software, so proportionally you have no loss.

Those of us hosted customers, who got skipped in the queue, and are still waiting for our miners to get deployed, however....
sr. member
Activity: 428
Merit: 250
BitcoinEvo [$XBTE]
October 24, 2013, 08:34:45 AM
Any tips how solve the random miner stoping / freezing after 30-60min ? Pleseeee? It doesn't manke sense waisting more electricity then you mine back  Tongue + a fact .97 decrease the speed from 100 to a 1.7Ghas

knc released 0.96.1 saying that it will fix cgminer stopping after 30min running, give it a try
At 96.1 the speed is only 55Ghas
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
October 24, 2013, 08:28:16 AM
I haven't had the issue of hashrate dropping on 0.97 yet. Running for more then 12 hours.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
let's have some fun
October 24, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
concerning the changelogs, you could compare code on https://github.com/KnCMiner to get a clue what has been changed - but for sure it's not the same like a simple changelog you read in short time.

----------

Any tips how solve the random miner stoping / freezing after 30-60min ? Pleseeee? It doesn't manke sense waisting more electricity then you mine back  Tongue + a fact .97 decrease the speed from 100 to a 1.7Ghas

After reading yesterday's reports about 0.97 I was really close to upgrade - was just too tired in the evening and not in the mood to deal with possible issues.
Meanwhile I'm quite happy I'm still on 0.95.


UPDATE YOUR MINER TO THE LATEST FIRMWARE

Somehow I'm not sure how to rate KnCMiner's software development and quality assurance in general, as it seems they do neither proper testing, nor understand the root causes of issues since each time there's one solved, but another appears..
I'm happy they're better in hw development, otherwise Jupiter would hash with 290GH/s only while consuming 1kW, I guess  Tongue

Honestly I'm getting more and more disappointed about this.
Especially when considering that cgminer's devs could have prevented it very very likely, but KnCMiner was so self confident they will do it better, cheaper, faster (?!).

I do not like to think about the difference in mined coins until now.  Undecided
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