Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 145.

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Quote from: notthematrix on March 08, 2015, 06:58:27 PM

Iam sorry for the haters but KNC is not a scam.

They aren't a scam, they are just lying crooks who deliver crap 7 months late, because they loathe their customers, just like BFL, actually. You know, the KnC customers who paid for KnC's massive mining farm that they promised they would never build to more than 5% of sold hardware.

Quote from: Zelek Uther on March 08, 2015, 06:41:17 PM

Is anyone running a bonus 2-for-1 Neptune? I got mine a week ago, but haven't taken it out of the box yet. I'm planning to run it, I just don't have the Power Supplies yet.

Has anyone technical done a tear-down evaluation of the bonus Neppys? The quote above makes me worry about running it in my home...

I finally got mine up and running after replacing/re-flashing the BBB that they delivered to me in a physically broken state. I'm not leaving it running though until my heatsink order arrives. I typically post on the KnC forum, but I might add the info here too, since it looks like KnC is playing damage control atm.

The 2pin fans are indeed slower than the KnC branded fans, but probably close to the speed of the original BitFenix. The Noctuas are a decent substitute, but they are just too expensive for the marginal cooling difference that they made. I had a Delta 92mm, 160CFM rigged on one Cube as a test and it actually cooled much better than the Noctua, which is above 159CFM. The Delta is a very loud fan though, vacuum cleaner level of noise. I haven't tried it, but I wondered if funneling the 140mm down to 92mm would have the same effect.

I've also trimmed the now pointless E heatsinks down to a fat T, to make room for the heatsinks I ordered. If it works well, I'll post the details for everyone. If the KnC forum comes back up before I get around to posting more, the "Bonus Neptune - Formula 1 Pinto" thread is where I have all the pictures posted.

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Quote from: Zelek Uther on March 08, 2015, 06:41:17 PM

Quote from: teslaman on March 06, 2015, 11:14:08 PM

Looks like it's mostly the new Bonus Miners selling for that price. They intentionally come without thermal pads on the VRMs, plus a 2pin fan jammed onto the 4pin header. So the VRMs cook nicely between 95-110C in a cool environment. Then maybe you'll get "lucky" and that rigged fan connector will pop off unexpectedly and the thing will really burn up. I was posting updates daily about it on the forum, which is now mysteriously offline, lol.

They even cheaped out on the paint job. It used to be silver painted with the black logo, now it's just bare metal with the black logo. The paint was cheap before anyways, even some goo gone would take it off.

Is anyone running a bonus 2-for-1 Neptune? I got mine a week ago, but haven't taken it out of the box yet. I'm planning to run it, I just don't have the Power Supplies yet.

Has anyone technical done a tear-down evaluation of the bonus Neppys? The quote above makes me worry about running it in my home...

Yes I am!
works great ,,, get a proper power supply I used 2x the EVGA 1300 G2 supernova.
Use the connectors KNC provided to connect it to the Nova.

The bones neppys have a weaker 2 wire fan.
replace theese with the Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC 3000 PWM http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=84&lng=en
theese fans cost about Eu26 a peace , you need 5 one for every cube.
Replacement is easy and strait foreward.

Beagle advice , if you upgrade or downgrade firmware always disconnect al the cubes!
this will save the live of the beagle.
if you have questions you can PM me... as you can see Iam running all miners on 500MHZ ,,, first you test the cores on 475 MHZ
see what core gets relativly hot , if core is > 85c lower volatge 2 steps fe -0.0539v , hot cores do need less voltage.
if core starts up properly tweak it to 500 with same lower Voltage,
Have questions? let me know.

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Quote from: teslaman on March 08, 2015, 05:57:07 PM

Quote from: notthematrix on March 08, 2015, 04:47:57 PM

A miner is not a consumer product.

Male bovine feces and everyone knows it.

http://youtu.be/bxOHAha7MAk?t=45s
"So, ok, KnCMiner as the name implies is making mining equipment, is that right?" Sam Cole: "Yeah, sure, we're making ASIC mining equipment and we're selling to the general public. We're selling fully functional devices that anyone can come and buy."

Bothem line is that they deliver a product , we al remember butterfly do we? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB55EIEEeqI
If you want to just cale do that in your own country , the only effect will be that KNC will no longer ship to US customers , same way US customers can not get a european bnk account not verry usfull to anybody is it Wink

for those with a more constructive state of mind this the the fan

"Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC 3000 PWM" you need to use as replacement in your bonus miner.
Iam sorry for the haters but KNC is not a scam.

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Quote from: teslaman on March 06, 2015, 11:14:08 PM

Looks like it's mostly the new Bonus Miners selling for that price. They intentionally come without thermal pads on the VRMs, plus a 2pin fan jammed onto the 4pin header. So the VRMs cook nicely between 95-110C in a cool environment. Then maybe you'll get "lucky" and that rigged fan connector will pop off unexpectedly and the thing will really burn up. I was posting updates daily about it on the forum, which is now mysteriously offline, lol.

They even cheaped out on the paint job. It used to be silver painted with the black logo, now it's just bare metal with the black logo. The paint was cheap before anyways, even some goo gone would take it off.

Is anyone running a bonus 2-for-1 Neptune? I got mine a week ago, but haven't taken it out of the box yet. I'm planning to run it, I just don't have the Power Supplies yet.

Has anyone technical done a tear-down evaluation of the bonus Neppys? The quote above makes me worry about running it in my home...

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The lawyer is most likely a scammer just hoping to make money from individuals because the case most likely will be a loss.

If the lawyer is confident then he will work for free and if he wins he gets to keep 30%.

If the lawyer isn't confident then he should just charge an hourly fee and if he wins, he just gets his hourly rate. And the clients get to keep 100%.

This litigation makes no sense in my opinion.

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Quote from: notthematrix on March 08, 2015, 04:47:57 PM

A miner is not a consumer product.

Male bovine feces and everyone knows it.

http://youtu.be/bxOHAha7MAk?t=45s
"So, ok, KnCMiner as the name implies is making mining equipment, is that right?" Sam Cole: "Yeah, sure, we're making ASIC mining equipment and we're selling to the general public. We're selling fully functional devices that anyone can come and buy."

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Quote from: elton123 on March 07, 2015, 01:49:48 PM

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Since I’m confident in the possibilities to win a litigation against KnC (albeit, there are no guarantees in this business), I like to investigate if you would be interested to participate in a new class action lawsuit, based on the following deal:

   • You pay no initial retainer or any other legal fees, such as court fees.
   • If you win, your retainer will be 30 % of what’s reclaimed in the lawsuit.
   • Payment of possible KnC legal fees (in case of a loss) will be split in the group, thus minimizing the individual risk and financial exposure.

So you are saying if you win you keep 30% of what is reclaimed from KNC, but if KNC wins we, as individuals, are legally committed to pay any possible KnC legal fees.

You need to explain your proposal in more detail for it to be taken seriously, in particular what individual legal obligations would be in the case of a loss. I suspect any KNC legal bill would not be small.

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A lot of complains about KNC but Iam quite heppy with my bonus miner.
Yes it is not plug and play , but what do you expect?
A miner is not a consumer product.
The bonus miner has weaker fan and misses a display I guess to save costs.
But its easy to replace the fan with for example theese baby's Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvBQoU82_8

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so nothing to buy the way i see it right?
i just visited the website and it says: All Bitcoin mining hardware is currently sold-out.
Anything for the near future?

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I am looking for a single Titan cube if anyone wants to part with one.

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Quote from: elton123 on March 07, 2015, 01:49:48 PM

Got this email..

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I sincerely hope that you have come to a satisfactory conclusion in your dealings with KnC. If not, you may be interested to read further.

I’m currently working full time in Sweden pursuing 15 individual litigation's against KnC. In this matter, I collaborate with Magnus Daar, who is, as you may know, pursuing a class action lawsuit against the company.

It has come to my attention that many dissatisfied KnC customers, who would like to pursue legal actions against the company, refrain from doing this, simply because they find the costs prohibiting.

Since I’m confident in the possibilities to win a litigation against KnC (albeit, there are no guarantees in this business), I like to investigate if you would be interested to participate in a new class action lawsuit, based on the following deal:

   • You pay no initial retainer or any other legal fees, such as court fees.
   • If you win, your retainer will be 30 % of what’s reclaimed in the lawsuit.
   • Payment of possible KnC legal fees (in case of a loss) will be split in the group, thus minimizing the individual risk and financial exposure.

The main focus in the lawsuit will be on Titan 14L (batch 1) and Titan 16L (batch 2), including KnCs refusal to comply with mandatory Swedish consumer protection laws (the right to cancel an order and to get a refund for any reason whatsoever), marketing of unrealistic ”false” delivery dates and late delivery of products, shipping of products against customer wishes, selling dangerous (fire hazard) and non certified products, selling faulty and non performing products vs advertised, e.g less hash rate and higher power consumption than advertised.

Please let me know if you have a Neptune. I may pursue a separate class action lawsuit for this machine, if enough interest.

To get as far ahead in the litigation ”race" against KnC as possible, I like to go as fast on this one. Please let me know if you are interested ASAP… and/or if I can be of any other assistance.

From?
If he wants I can refer someone to him.

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Got this email..

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I sincerely hope that you have come to a satisfactory conclusion in your dealings with KnC. If not, you may be interested to read further.

I’m currently working full time in Sweden pursuing 15 individual litigation's against KnC. In this matter, I collaborate with Magnus Daar, who is, as you may know, pursuing a class action lawsuit against the company.

It has come to my attention that many dissatisfied KnC customers, who would like to pursue legal actions against the company, refrain from doing this, simply because they find the costs prohibiting.

Since I’m confident in the possibilities to win a litigation against KnC (albeit, there are no guarantees in this business), I like to investigate if you would be interested to participate in a new class action lawsuit, based on the following deal:

   • You pay no initial retainer or any other legal fees, such as court fees.
   • If you win, your retainer will be 30 % of what’s reclaimed in the lawsuit.
   • Payment of possible KnC legal fees (in case of a loss) will be split in the group, thus minimizing the individual risk and financial exposure.

The main focus in the lawsuit will be on Titan 14L (batch 1) and Titan 16L (batch 2), including KnCs refusal to comply with mandatory Swedish consumer protection laws (the right to cancel an order and to get a refund for any reason whatsoever), marketing of unrealistic ”false” delivery dates and late delivery of products, shipping of products against customer wishes, selling dangerous (fire hazard) and non certified products, selling faulty and non performing products vs advertised, e.g less hash rate and higher power consumption than advertised.

Please let me know if you have a Neptune. I may pursue a separate class action lawsuit for this machine, if enough interest.

To get as far ahead in the litigation ”race" against KnC as possible, I like to go as fast on this one. Please let me know if you are interested ASAP… and/or if I can be of any other assistance.

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Clueless!

Killed the previous msg got the Titan to work with 6 cubes on 2 1200i corsair psu's and the other 2 with the 2nd controller on a seasonic
860w ....still have my 2 dead dies from my orig unit ..the 2nd titan unit has NO dead dies...currently screaming combined at 645mh.. not bad
with 2 dead dies....

the electric bill is really really gonna suck (shows even 2000w with both units added adv page stats i got to be looking at 2500w in reality)

fun fun hobby

anyway the KNC Jupiter is a doorstop....just these 2 Titans to go and (I'm at the ass end of the line) I too will be out like most ..from 'home mining'

(still praying to the asic gods that a volcano pops up under knc's data hall ......hey a guy can dream right?)

Quote from: mishax1 on March 07, 2015, 03:59:19 AM

The best way to run a Titan is to "punch Sam Cole in the balls".

To tell you the truth I'd prob give up the 2nd titan just to do that .......it would be worth the 2.25 btc and the loss of mining...make a video of it
ask for donations..I'd clean up....

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The best way to run a Titan is to "punch Sam Cole in the balls".

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Quote from: smoothrunnings on February 27, 2015, 11:25:45 AM

Quote from: Zelek Uther on February 26, 2015, 07:43:34 PM

Just paid ~$226 ($299.92 NZD) import duty for my bonus Neppy (scheduled for delivery on 2 March). The declared value was $1,370.

I must admit, I had a moment there thinking... is it worth paying $300 for this thing? Then I just paid it. It'll be handy for the coming winter here in the Southern hemisphere.

Would have been awesome to get this back in August 2014. Now... not so much.

You will find that KNC will not accept the miner back. Your better off just paying the duty and selling it.

So they declare the value as 1370. How much did you pay?

I paid 9,995 + 255 shipping = $10,250 USD for a Neptune pre-order on 2013-11-28, which was delivered on 2014-07-12.

The Neptune I received on 2015-03-02 was a 2-for1 bonus Neptune (based on my original Customer Appreciation batch pre-order on 2013-11-28).

So depending on how you look at it, I either paid "nothing" for the bonus Neppy, or perhaps I paid $10,250 / 2 = $5,125 USD for it.

In any case, New Zealand Customs assessed my import duty (of ~226 USD) based on KnCMiner's declare value of $1,370 for the Neptune. I'd be interested to hear from other bonus 2-for-1 recipients as to what their Neptune's declared value is.

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Quote from: Searing on March 04, 2015, 10:26:00 PM

how did all that work out the Titan decline for delivery? (or are in in the process of the class action ..thus the denial of shipment if that was the angle?) curious?

thanks? (i applied to the class action 2x no reply....others with neppies and bonus neppie owners i know did get accepted and/or at least still get
spam emails from them I guess the Titan was not as good a legal fight....in the fact ..i'm sure they can show knc used the 'bonus neptunes' on their data halls at the expense
of the customers..so i expect that is the angle the class action is in search of from a legal point of view..and being frigging late

as to a titan class action ..well .....i am probably out of the loop ..but i've not heard of anything ....or progress..zip...

feel free to enlighten me (i'm a former knc kool aid drinker......) we could start a support group with kool aid and cookies...group therapy there's the ticket!

Sorry to see things are still going to same way here... Good luck.

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mining is dead
electrity is more expensive from btc

even at neptune

go to hell btc and mining

go fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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Quote from: samsonn25 on March 05, 2015, 08:35:08 AM

Sounds suspicious.

Why do they need to know the exact address (except for burglaries) where the miners are located ?
Postal Code would be enough to calculate shipping costs or whatever..

http://imgur.com/VSGzcJq

*edit: street is optional

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Sounds suspicious.

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