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Whoa. You guys still discussing this?

If you accidentally pick up a dried turd in the park, you make your next move a quick one. Tell me how this situation is any different.

Depends! To me, if the turd belonged to Maria, I would sniff it first before deciding what to do with it, but chances are I'll put it in my pocket.

Then I would share my fine on some website, garnering other's opinions, whereupon some may want to view it, thus setting up a viewing date consisting of trusted members so that it doesn't come up missing, couple with them giving favorable reviews.

Maria 2.0? Isn't she the forums' token girl?

Sorry, have been IRL for a while.
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Whoa. You guys still discussing this?

If you accidentally pick up a dried turd in the park, you make your next move a quick one. Tell me how this situation is any different.

Depends! To me, if the turd belonged to Maria, I would sniff it first before deciding what to do with it, but chances are I'll put it in my pocket.

Then I would share my fine on some website, garnering other's opinions, whereupon some may want to view it, thus setting up a viewing date consisting of trusted members so that it doesn't come up missing, couple with them giving favorable reviews.
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Whoa. You guys still discussing this?

If you accidentally pick up a dried turd in the park, you make your next move a quick one. Tell me how this situation is any different.
legendary
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Defxor and Toksu are both Swedish and have expressed interest.

Toksu apparently has no interest in purchasing from KnC (unsure as to why - respectfully -  he follows this thread then?!) would appreciate a contribution to travel, which is fair, so anyone else willing to assist?

Defxor has a friend who is an ex-ASIC dev and bitcoin miner.

Both sound perfect.

Anyone else free and capable??



sorry I live way too far.

if it had been a Jupiter prototype I would have done it, maybe Smiley
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Beyond Imagination
I have requested to participate in their demo, 20 minutes drive to orsoc's office from my place, so far no answer from them
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did anyone went to their corporate office and took photos and videos?

There's the demo day soon.

Their HQ is on Google Maps, company data is easily available online (check this very thread). What else do you need?

Ermmm...people to go?

Defxor and Toksu are both Swedish and have expressed interest.

Toksu apparently has no interest in purchasing from KnC (unsure as to why - respectfully -  he follows this thread then?!) would appreciate a contribution to travel, which is fair, so anyone else willing to assist?

Defxor has a friend who is an ex-ASIC dev and bitcoin miner.

Both sound perfect.

Anyone else free and capable??

KS
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did anyone went to their corporate office and took photos and videos?

There's the demo day soon.

Their HQ is on Google Maps, company data is easily available online (check this very thread). What else do you need?
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did anyone went to their corporate office and took photos and videos?
KS
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http://web.archive.org/web/20070111055414/http://www.orsoc.se/

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Though our semiconductor partner, eASIC, we can offer extremely cost efficient target technologies to fit the unique requirements of performance and volume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EASIC

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In 1999 eASIC Corporation was founded in San Jose, California, and incorporated in Delaware by Zvi Or-Bach, the founder of Chip Express (renamed to ChipX). eASIC is a privately held company, headquartered in Santa Clara, California, with engineering and R&D teams in Romania and Malaysia. eASIC is venture backed by Vinod Khosla, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers (KPCB), Crescendo Ventures, and Evergreen Partners.

http://www.easic.com/easic-contact/28-nm-registration/

so orsoc in the past has easic as semiconductor partner, maybe they're using the
same channel to get access to 28 nm ASIC chips, just saying...  


The structure of an eASIC is more similar to an FPGA than an ASIC.

The way they describe it is basically "you come up with program an FPGA and we turn it into an ASIC". Sounds interesting.
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http://web.archive.org/web/20070111055414/http://www.orsoc.se/

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Though our semiconductor partner, eASIC, we can offer extremely cost efficient target technologies to fit the unique requirements of performance and volume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EASIC

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In 1999 eASIC Corporation was founded in San Jose, California, and incorporated in Delaware by Zvi Or-Bach, the founder of Chip Express (renamed to ChipX). eASIC is a privately held company, headquartered in Santa Clara, California, with engineering and R&D teams in Romania and Malaysia. eASIC is venture backed by Vinod Khosla, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers (KPCB), Crescendo Ventures, and Evergreen Partners.

http://www.easic.com/easic-contact/28-nm-registration/

so orsoc in the past has easic as semiconductor partner, maybe they're using the
same channel to get access to 28 nm ASIC chips, just saying... 


The structure of an eASIC is more similar to an FPGA than an ASIC.
KS
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http://web.archive.org/web/20070111055414/http://www.orsoc.se/

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Though our semiconductor partner, eASIC, we can offer extremely cost efficient target technologies to fit the unique requirements of performance and volume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EASIC

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In 1999 eASIC Corporation was founded in San Jose, California, and incorporated in Delaware by Zvi Or-Bach, the founder of Chip Express (renamed to ChipX). eASIC is a privately held company, headquartered in Santa Clara, California, with engineering and R&D teams in Romania and Malaysia. eASIC is venture backed by Vinod Khosla, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers (KPCB), Crescendo Ventures, and Evergreen Partners.

http://www.easic.com/easic-contact/28-nm-registration/

so orsoc in the past has easic as semiconductor partner, maybe they're using the
same channel to get access to 28 nm ASIC chips, just saying... 


If it's coming from eASIC, the 28nm node is "coming soon" only. You can register to receive more info as it becomes available.
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  • I've decided not to invest in KNC or any other new BTC mining equipment.
sorry for bothering goinng OT, but do you mind to share the reasoning on which you based this decision?
I think the train has gone for now - if you don't already have mining equipment in hand, chances are slim you will be able to recoup your investment. Also, there are too many uncertain variables (delivery time, actual performance, difficulty rise, exchange rate, power cost, alternative coins) for my taste. Just buying/keeping BTC is a better investment, as I see it.

got it.
thanks
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  • I've decided not to invest in KNC or any other new BTC mining equipment.
sorry for bothering goinng OT, but do you mind to share the reasoning on which you based this decision?
I think the train has gone for now - if you don't already have mining equipment in hand, chances are slim you will be able to recoup your investment. Also, there are too many uncertain variables (delivery time, actual performance, difficulty rise, exchange rate, power cost, alternative coins) for my taste. Just buying/keeping BTC is a better investment, as I see it.
legendary
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  • I've decided not to invest in KNC or any other new BTC mining equipment.


sorry for bothering goinng OT, but do you mind to share the reasoning on which you based this decision?
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I'm probably free next Monday. However, as I've thought about it, I might not be the best guy to go. There are a number of reasons:

  • I'm not willing to pay for the trip myself, someone else would have to pay for my expenses (~1 BTC).
  • I've decided not to invest in KNC or any other new BTC mining equipment.
  • I know a thing or two about bitcoin mining and I've been doing it since 2011, but I am in no way an expert in FPGA/ASIC mining.
  • Most of what I know about the business side of computer hardware development I've learned from this forum.

Nevertheless, if someone is willing to pay for my expenses, I'd be happy to go. I own a DSLR camera and I think I'm a decent photographer, so I could probably take good enough pictures. I also happen to be an engineer* in Industrial Engineering and Management (Civilingenjör i industriell ekonomi in Swedish), so I think I'm still somewhat qualified to ask the right questions.

* Technically, I'm not an engineer yet. I've applied for a diploma, but it will take a few more weeks before I get it.

...well, you couldn't get anymore impartial then! Wink
sr. member
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I'm probably free next Monday. However, as I've thought about it, I might not be the best guy to go. There are a number of reasons:

  • I'm not willing to pay for the trip myself, someone else would have to pay for my expenses (~1 BTC).
  • I've decided not to invest in KNC or any other new BTC mining equipment.
  • I know a thing or two about bitcoin mining and I've been doing it since 2011, but I am in no way an expert in FPGA/ASIC mining.
  • Most of what I know about the business side of computer hardware development I've learned from this forum.

Nevertheless, if someone is willing to pay for my expenses, I'd be happy to go. I own a DSLR camera and I think I'm a decent photographer, so I could probably take good enough pictures. I also happen to be an engineer* in Industrial Engineering and Management (Civilingenjör i industriell ekonomi in Swedish), so I think I'm still somewhat qualified to ask the right questions.

* Technically, I'm not an engineer yet. I've applied for a diploma, but it will take a few more weeks before I get it.
legendary
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http://web.archive.org/web/20070111055414/http://www.orsoc.se/

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Though our semiconductor partner, eASIC, we can offer extremely cost efficient target technologies to fit the unique requirements of performance and volume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EASIC

Quote
In 1999 eASIC Corporation was founded in San Jose, California, and incorporated in Delaware by Zvi Or-Bach, the founder of Chip Express (renamed to ChipX). eASIC is a privately held company, headquartered in Santa Clara, California, with engineering and R&D teams in Romania and Malaysia. eASIC is venture backed by Vinod Khosla, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers (KPCB), Crescendo Ventures, and Evergreen Partners.

http://www.easic.com/easic-contact/28-nm-registration/

so orsoc in the past has easic as semiconductor partner, maybe they're using the
same channel to get access to 28 nm ASIC chips, just saying... 


searching for orsoc using easic site "Search" feature gives me 2 references to OrSoC:

http://www.easic.com/easic-ez-ip-cores/microprocessor-peripherals-ips/openrisc-1200-processor-core/
http://www.easic.com/press-releases/easic-expands-in-europe-by-adding-new-channel-partners/

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Look this is getting a little silly with speculation. If you're serious about going then please email direct.

I can't go as I was hoping for a little flexibility time wise.

It's Monday week. From discussion with Sam, it's not to demonstrate the ASIC chip, it's proof of concept of the FPGA. A working model. There will be another open day for the ASIC itself.  I'm definitely going to that. He said there is little point in me taking a flight over for the FPGA, someone local can verify that and meet both Sam and Andreas and the three members of ORSoC that make up KNCMiner.

So please. If there is anyone local to Stockholm, that is available next Monday and happy to go along, meet the guys and take photo/video evidence, ask appropriate questions and clear up some doubt, that would be awesome.

I've also asked some Qs about possible Mars V1 -> V2 upgrade, VAT and ORSoC's relationship with KNC. I have some answers to post, but don't want to drown out the fact we need someone free to go in person next Mon.

Can we confirm who first?

Defxor amd Tosku are both Senior / Hero members, and Swedish, can you both make it?
legendary
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http://web.archive.org/web/20070111055414/http://www.orsoc.se/

Quote
Though our semiconductor partner, eASIC, we can offer extremely cost efficient target technologies to fit the unique requirements of performance and volume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EASIC

Quote
In 1999 eASIC Corporation was founded in San Jose, California, and incorporated in Delaware by Zvi Or-Bach, the founder of Chip Express (renamed to ChipX). eASIC is a privately held company, headquartered in Santa Clara, California, with engineering and R&D teams in Romania and Malaysia. eASIC is venture backed by Vinod Khosla, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers (KPCB), Crescendo Ventures, and Evergreen Partners.

http://www.easic.com/easic-contact/28-nm-registration/

so orsoc in the past has easic as semiconductor partner, maybe they're using the
same channel to get access to 28 nm ASIC chips, just saying... 
KS
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please look and check if they have any real asic chip

Why would they have an ASIC chip before the fab has made them? And when the fab has made them they're only days/weeks away from shipping.

Design house [idea & specs] -> electronics wiz [board design, ASIC design] -> ASIC fab -> electronics assembly -> seller

Sort of. I'd assume KnC would be the design house and ORSoC the electronics wiz as well as assembly house. Which fab they use I wouldn't know - but there's a limit to the amount of 28nm capable plants in the world.

(Helveticoin's 28nm ASIC is one I believe exists since ST-Microelectronics is partners with one of them)



And the biggest hurdle: money.
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