Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 2081.

defxor

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Quote from: dan99 on May 13, 2013, 02:45:13 AM

please look and check if they have any real asic chip

Why would they have an ASIC chip before the fab has made them? And when the fab has made them they're only days/weeks away from shipping.

Design house [idea & specs] -> electronics wiz [board design, ASIC design] -> ASIC fab -> electronics assembly -> seller

Sort of. I'd assume KnC would be the design house and ORSoC the electronics wiz as well as assembly house. Which fab they use I wouldn't know - but there's a limit to the amount of 28nm capable plants in the world.

(Helveticoin's 28nm ASIC is one I believe exists since ST-Microelectronics is partners with one of them)

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Quote from: tosku on May 13, 2013, 04:53:09 AM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 12, 2013, 02:26:21 PM

Out of interest, who for sure (members of this forum) is actually situated in Sweden (or close to), specifically Stockholm?

I'm in Sweden, less than 2 hours by train to Stockholm. Where's the info about this "open day"?

http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=6d9133088733c220dff716f59&id=ed1783b547

you need to send them an email.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 12, 2013, 02:26:21 PM

Out of interest, who for sure (members of this forum) is actually situated in Sweden (or close to), specifically Stockholm?

I'm in Sweden, less than 2 hours by train to Stockholm. Where's the info about this "open day"?

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 12, 2013, 06:24:36 PM

Quote from: defxor on May 12, 2013, 04:01:31 PM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 12, 2013, 02:26:21 PM

Out of interest, who for sure (members of this forum) is actually situated in Sweden (or close to), specifically Stockholm?

I'm 2h by train away from Stockholm myself - and I know quite a few bitcoiners residing in Sthlm that I would in turn vouch for the credibility of.

Coolio, they want to make an open day next Mon, work commitments and short notice mean I'd appreciate if there was someone close that can make it and you're a hero member, would that be feasible?

Hope someone will go there to meet them up, remember takes lots of pictures and videos for us to verify their authenticity. please look and check if they have any real asic chip and Query them left and right about their much talk about jupiter 350gh/s selling ony at $6,999 to find out for real if they can deliver in September 2013 and not 2014.

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Quote from: dan99 on May 12, 2013, 10:12:01 PM

Is a sad fact that Sam doesn't admit his failure in delivering those 50gh/s and 60 gh/s he promised in the summer month of June and instead change them to September 2013 claiming he will deliver the 350gh/s miner. You don't even have an Asic Chip at present and you plan to come up with a 28nm Asic that can mine 350gh/s?? Why don't you do a survey and find out how many will believe that you can come out with a 350gh/s miner in September 2013.? Grin

I'm all for helping startups, but there are way too many idiots with money burning they hands that will simply throw it at the first scammer's announce.

If they're legit, they should be more open about their capabilities in funding/delivering, they sorely need the cred. Making grand announcements doesn't really help.

I'd be much happier if they talked about whether their Mars project is on track for delivery "in 2 months" (from when? April?), that'd mean they have a plan and they're following it (instead of spamming the internet with new specs for sth they don't have and certainly lack the funds for).

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Is a sad fact that Sam doesn't admit his failure in delivering those 50gh/s and 60 gh/s he promised in the summer month of June and instead change them to September 2013 claiming he will deliver the 350gh/s miner. You don't even have an Asic Chip at present and you plan to come up with a 28nm Asic that can mine 350gh/s?? Why don't you do a survey and find out how many will believe that you can come out with a 350gh/s miner in September 2013.? Grin

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Quote from: FlappySocks on May 12, 2013, 06:35:03 PM

If KNC are willing to sell me a unit at cost, I'd be willing to show it to anyone in the UK that is interested. Could meet up at a hotel or some place. I don't mind taking a risk, and being their cheerleader.

Immediatelly after they will have working unit order queue is sure quite long... I have seen what happened with Avalon. Missed Batch #1 - everyone unsure, Missed Batch #2 - sold out before got btc balance up. However I was ready for batch #3 and got one 101btc, sold out within 30 mins. Batch#1 Avalon customers are mining now quite happy... and earning a lot. So, now there is posibility that 350Gh/s miner will be reality at quite reasonable price and I still not understand generally what is the problem? Im ready to take a risk and hopefully it pays off.

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If KNC are willing to sell me a unit at cost, I'd be willing to show it to anyone in the UK that is interested. Could meet up at a hotel or some place. I don't mind taking a risk, and being their cheerleader.

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Quote from: defxor on May 12, 2013, 04:01:31 PM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 12, 2013, 02:26:21 PM

Out of interest, who for sure (members of this forum) is actually situated in Sweden (or close to), specifically Stockholm?

I'm 2h by train away from Stockholm myself - and I know quite a few bitcoiners residing in Sthlm that I would in turn vouch for the credibility of.

Coolio, they want to make an open day next Mon, work commitments and short notice mean I'd appreciate if there was someone close that can make it and you're a hero member, would that be feasible?

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So many pages of... I understand people are cautious, but actually this is quite funny.
You take risk or not - just as with bfl... (not touching me) or with avalon (waiting for Batch 3 delivery) or with kncminer. What´s the problem?
Im cofident enough to place my bets and preorder. Let´s see what happens. Every company have to start from somewhere and sometimes
support is very important - at least I think that if I can get 350Gh/s miner for 7000$ by oct is good deal, but to make it happen needs support / buyers so they can really do it.

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Quote from: KS on May 12, 2013, 12:02:51 PM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 12, 2013, 07:54:52 AM

Quote from: KS on May 12, 2013, 06:30:22 AM

Here come the new accounts...

Yet, you were a new account a week ago? Regardless of your recent prolific post count.

Right back at you

Only, I'm not on a first name basis with KnC like some Wink

EDIT: And I'm not saying things like "so far I see only green flags"...

Things started good but inconsistencies are creeping in. Red flags are appearing, so are new, optimistic accounts.

Typical scammy circus.

I'm waiting for an official your money back guarantee from a serious player like ORSoC. KnC is a newcomer and as such is not a serious player (especially given they only have 5000 EUR in capital - what a joke for a multi-million USD project).

If they're legit, I wish them well, but right now...

You may be right; knc may be a scam. Don't see any red flags yet as startups often have little to no cash. Didn't mean to fuel a "typical scammy circus" sir! I pre-ordered over 20 days ago and do not know knc on a first name basis. I'm in San Francisco.

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Quote from: defxor on May 12, 2013, 03:53:31 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on May 12, 2013, 10:49:26 AM

I'll offered up legitimate concerns

No.

I meant I've, not I'll, if that makes any difference your post, bud. I edited the spelling error in the post you quoted.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 12, 2013, 02:26:21 PM

Out of interest, who for sure (members of this forum) is actually situated in Sweden (or close to), specifically Stockholm?

I'm 2h by train away from Stockholm myself - and I know quite a few bitcoiners residing in Sthlm that I would in turn vouch for the credibility of.

defxor

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on May 12, 2013, 10:49:26 AM

I've offered up legitimate concerns

No.

Bitcoinorama

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Out of interest, who for sure (members of this forum) is actually situated in Sweden (or close to), specifically Stockholm?

KS

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KnC headquarters:

http://www.google.be/maps?q=&layer=c&z=17&iwloc=A&sll=59.439517,17.941069&cbp=13,346.8,0,0,0&cbll=59.439400,17.941123&sa=X&ei=1dmPUbv2KYTGPZjlgMAG&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QxB0wAA

(house is number 2B, probably have to scroll to the right a bit)

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on May 12, 2013, 12:54:13 PM

Honestly, the following is promising for now ORSoC has once again put their name on the line: https://www.kncminer.com/pages/aboutus

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The founders of KnCMiner:

Andreas Kennemar
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/andreas-kennemar/7/a72/381

Johan Rilegård
http://se.linkedin.com/in/johanrilegard/

Marcus Erlandsson
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/marcus-erlandsson/1/20a/680/

Michael Unnebäck
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/michael-unnebäck/5/725/20/

Sam Cole
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/sam-cole/1/1a8/22/

It's because of this revelation I will now scale back considerably further accusations.

God's speed, KNC!

~Bruno K~

PS: This is not a full indorsement, for I'll still be keeping an eye on them as further developments become available.

Reheated comment:

ORSoC has been hired for the technical part but won't deal with the customers.

This is either too small a company hiring an expert partner because they can't make it on their own (still a risky venture) or a cheap scam (considering) where ORSoC is genuine but really only lending credibility to the scammers. They will do a few engineering samples and the KnC guys will run with the money of the preorders.

Why stop being critical for KnC? It's way too early to not think it's a scam.

EDIT: ORSoC is not an equity partner in KnC, nor are any of the ORSoC ppl.

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Honestly, the following is promising for now ORSoC has once again put their name on the line: https://www.kncminer.com/pages/aboutus

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The founders of KnCMiner:

Andreas Kennemar
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/andreas-kennemar/7/a72/381

Johan Rilegård
http://se.linkedin.com/in/johanrilegard/

Marcus Erlandsson
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/marcus-erlandsson/1/20a/680/

Michael Unnebäck
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/michael-unnebäck/5/725/20/

Sam Cole
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/sam-cole/1/1a8/22/

It's because of this revelation I will now scale back considerably further accusations.

God's speed, KNC!

~Bruno K~

PS: This is not a full indorsement, for I'll still be keeping an eye on them as further developments become available.

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Quote from: pheaonix on May 12, 2013, 12:11:43 PM

Quote from: jspielberg on May 12, 2013, 11:17:23 AM

I think until OrSoc demonstrates the chip... these guys are promising but too risky. Once they have a chip that does something... well... then the equation changes.

truth

Agreed.

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