Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 2126. (Read 3049520 times)

Honestly, I kind of figured that, but maybe others can confirmed. But how do you explain the misspelling of the address of which their viable business is located? Surely it wasn't Latinized to cater to Americans.

You sound like a betting man. Allow me to hedge that bet for you. You order two units within the next 48 hours, and when they arrive, you keep one, and I'll buy the other one off you at double the price you paid, paying you first prior to you shipping to me.

You can't lose! If I renege, you'll still have two units and would be in position to give me a scammer tag.

I'm pretty sure you can receive e-mails on domains parked with godaddy and most registrars.

They still seem like a safer bet than BFL

On the bottom of the page of their partner website http://kennemarandcole.se/ is the street address Drotninggaten 71C Stockholm which is spelled incorrectly. It should be Drottninggatan 71 C Stockholm (2 T's and an a instead of an e). Luckily, this time it's not a Mediterranean restaurant at a Bitcoin entity location--it's a Chinese Buffet, serving all the hash you can eat.

Also, one of the email addresses is [email protected], of which kandc.se is a parked domain. I may need to be enlightened as to how one retrieves emails from a parked domain.

I have to admit, these guys are good.

Well, after I got this PM, I have actually confirmed the russian tracker/analytic presence in the source - you can do this too, just go to kncminer website, and view source, and search for it. I have kept a screenshot as well.

However, this does not prove anything other than there is a russian tie here, and the person who PM'd me mentioned it is very fishy to have such tie. I am sure s/he will post more once out of newbie jail.

Address lookup

canonical name   www.kncminer.com.
aliases   
addresses    168.63.65.34
Domain Whois record

Queried whois.internic.net with "dom kncminer.com"...

   Domain Name: KNCMINER.COM
   Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
   Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
   Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
   Name Server: NS47.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
   Name Server: NS48.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
   Status: clientDeleteProhibited
   Status: clientRenewProhibited
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Status: clientUpdateProhibited
   Updated Date: 03-apr-2013
   Creation Date: 03-apr-2013
   Expiration Date: 03-apr-2016

>>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 03:54:05 UTC <<<
Queried whois.godaddy.com with "kncminer.com"...

   Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
   Domain Name: KNCMINER.COM
      Created on: 03-Apr-13
      Expires on: 03-Apr-16
      Last Updated on: 03-Apr-13

   Registrant:
   Kennemar & Cole AB
   Vallmyravagen 7A
   Skogas, huddinge 14251
   Sweden

   Administrative Contact:
      Cole, Samuel  [email protected]
      Kennemar & Cole AB
      Vallmyravagen 7A
      Skogas, huddinge 14251
      Sweden
      0046732300149

   Technical Contact:
      Cole, Samuel  [email protected]
      Kennemar & Cole AB
      Vallmyravagen 7A
      Skogas, huddinge 14251
      Sweden
      0046732300149

   Domain servers in listed order:
      NS47.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
      NS48.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Network Whois record

Queried whois.arin.net with "n 168.63.65.34"...

NetRange:       168.61.0.0 - 168.63.255.255
CIDR:           168.61.0.0/16, 168.62.0.0/15
OriginAS:       
NetName:        MSFT-EP
NetHandle:      NET-168-61-0-0-1
Parent:         NET-168-0-0-0-0
NetType:        Direct Assignment
RegDate:        2011-06-22
Updated:        2012-10-16
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-168-61-0-0-1


OrgName:        Microsoft Corp
OrgId:          MSFT-Z
Address:        One Microsoft Way
City:           Redmond
StateProv:      WA
PostalCode:     98052
Country:        US
RegDate:        2011-06-22
Updated:        2011-06-22
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/MSFT-Z

OrgAbuseHandle: MSNAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   MSN ABUSE
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail:  [email protected]
OrgAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/MSNAB-ARIN

OrgTechHandle: MSFTP-ARIN
OrgTechName:   MSFT-POC
OrgTechPhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgTechEmail:  [email protected]
OrgTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/MSFTP-ARIN

OrgNOCHandle: ZM23-ARIN
OrgNOCName:   Microsoft Corporation
OrgNOCPhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgNOCEmail:  [email protected]
OrgNOCRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZM23-ARIN

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE231-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Abuse
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail:  [email protected]
OrgAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE231-ARIN

OrgAbuseHandle: HOTMA-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Hotmail Abuse
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-425-882-8080
OrgAbuseEmail:  [email protected]
OrgAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/HOTMA-ARIN
DNS records

DNS query for www.kncminer.com failed: TimedOut

DNS query for 34.65.63.168.in-addr.arpa returned an error from the server: NameError

name   class   type   data   time to live
www.kncminer.com   IN   A   168.63.65.34   3595s   (00:59:55)
kncminer.com   IN   A   168.63.65.34   600s   (00:10:00)
kncminer.com   IN   MX   
preference:   0
exchange:   kncminer-com.mail.eo.outlook.com
3600s   (01:00:00)
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kncminer.com   IN   NS   ns48.domaincontrol.com   3600s   (01:00:00)
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kncminer.com   IN   TXT   MS=ms48774073   3600s   (01:00:00)
kncminer.com   IN   SOA   
server:   ns47.domaincontrol.com
email:   [email protected]
serial:   2013040800
refresh:   28800
retry:   7200
expire:   604800
minimum ttl:   600
3600s   (01:00:00)
Service scan

FTP - 21   Error: TimedOut
SMTP - 25   Error: TimedOut
HTTP - 80   HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Cache-Control: private
Content-Length: 19253
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.0
X-AspNet-Version: 4.0.30319
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X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
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POP3 - 110   Error: TimedOut
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-- end --

Can anyone else confirm the evidence that was posted above? If this evidence turns out to be true and it probably is, I wonder if kncminer will say anything to defend themselves.

Ok, I have received a PM from a person stuck in newbie jail, who wanted to share some information, and believes s/he has found enough evidence for this to be a scam, so I am copying verbatim the PM I have received, after I offered him/her to post it on his/her behalf:

==== Start PM ===========

cap1
Newbie

 Online

Posts: 14



 
Total scam please post for me
« Sent to: shibaji on: Today at 08:04:32 PM »
Quote  Reply  Delete 
Awesome that will be great okay here is the rundown:

I have found more damning evidence

http://www.advantshop.net/

There site is hosted by a Russian e-commerce provider which can only be paid for in Russian ruble!

This if anything should suggest a SCAM - Why would a genuine Swedish business host in russia and pay in russian ruble.

Also my original post was to be:

"This is an interesting one which I am little suspicious of.

I am certainly interested in this sort of development but it is amazing how light-in-detail the proposals are.

It does seem strange that so much is left for the forum user to try and substantiate

Having had a look at your website and registered my interest I have had a look at the source code and one thing stands out as odd. You have a russian website tracker http://metrika.yandex.ru/

Now this is very odd!! Your typical european would not choose do do their Web Analytics with a package the from Russia and written in Russian. Your average Swede does not speak Russian so why would you choose this over Google Analytics, Yahoo Analytics, Woopra etc etc which are free and global.

Yandex.ru 'Worldwide' caters for:

Belarus
Kazakhstan
Russia
Turkey
Ukraine

Here is some information about Yandex from Wikipedia

Yandex (Russian: Яндeкc) is a Russian Internet company which operates the largest search engine in Russia with about 60% market share in that country.[3] It also develops a number of Internet-based services and products. Yandex ranked as the 4th largest search engine worldwide, based on information from Comscore.com, with more than 150 million searches per day as of April 2012, and more than 50.5 million visitors (all company's services) daily as of February 2013.[4] The company's mission is to provide answers to any questions users have or think about (explicit or implicit).[5] Yandex also has a very large presence in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, holding nearly third of all searches in each country's individual market and nearly a half (43%) of all searches in Belarus.[6]
The Yandex.ru home page has been rated as the most popular website in Russia.[7] Yandex attracts more than 56 million users from all over the world.[8] The web site also operates in Belarus, Kazakhstan, the Ukraine and Turkey.[9] Another company, Yandex Labs, is a wholly owned division of Yandex that is located in the San Francisco Bay Area.

All very good if you are Russian probably not so good if you are from Stockholm.

This literally does not make any sense whatsoever unless you are Russian posing as Swedish."


This is a total scam by a russian outfit DO NOT PAY ANY MONEY


====== End PM =======

For $3k how much hash rate would you guys would want?

I'm thinking at least 50Gh/s - ideally more. 

Boy, lots of hate around here. I thought I was full of hate.

Listen, if the company here has been in business for a while they no undoubtedly have business documents with dates on them. Ones that would be perfectly find for the public to see. Purchase order, invoices, charges, any kind of statements with a letter head and a date. Obviously not some word document that was just made with a logo on the top of it. A business that has been working for many years has thousands of documents just sitting in the office. Please just scan some of these to prove you guys have been around, working and doing business. This is very easy and simple to do. Thanks.

Size: 285.75 mm x 406.40 mm x 482.6 mm
(28.575cm x 40.64cm x 48.26cm)

http://www.kncminer.com/products/knc-gold-miner


Assuming cm and not in., otherwise it'll be the size of a dinner room table.

Thus 60cm x 30cm x 30cm is the size of kncminer's box. (~2' x 1' x 1')

Surely, you have at least a box to show us. We're not greedy! No need to show us the fans.

Here's even a better request: How about a pic of you two standing next to each other--Bengt Mikael Andreas Kennemar and Samuel James Cole?

elebit  - have you met them personally yet?


- seen

+1

Yea, got it the first time... and I was essentially telling you, but with slightly less words:

a) read https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1771390
b) go to VIES webpage
c) enter "SE - Sweden"
d) fill in the VAT number you found in (a) in the field below (without the "SE" since it's not numbers but letters).
e) press verify at the bottom of the page.

Response:
"Yes, valid VAT number"


I'm sure they will arrange something when they are ready... or at least I hope so.

Asking for this:
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/?locale=en

But someone should check people-address-VAT  in person.

I think the issue that kncminer needs to address is: whether 50GH/s is enough at the time they will deliver - seems small given more avalon and bfl (?) will be in the market.

good to have something more interesting ..

VAT number (confirmed) is already posted on the first page, and I have confirmed a few posts up that he is who he claims to be.

+1!