Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 392.

rograz

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Quote from: dropt on June 17, 2014, 11:37:22 AM

20nm @ ~0.7W/GH

Talk about a fail.

All it means is that those chips are clocked more towards their frequency ceiling than for efficiency, so for KNC it's a success since they get to send as few chips as possible to fulfill each order. They could easily have delivered sub 0,5W/GH but it would have cost them more to do so, so why would they?

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Quote from: tzortz on June 17, 2014, 12:20:12 PM

Finally looks like they will deliver within June.

But why don't they give some specs/info about their progress?

There is something behind.

Its quite common for them, remember what it was like on the run up to Jupiter launch?

As far as I am aware, they are still testing the boards and software to get optimal results, once they have something stable they will probably post.

Going to be an interesting week for those who have orders.

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Finally looks like they will deliver within June.

But why don't they give some specs/info about their progress?

There is something behind.

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Quote from: tzortz on June 17, 2014, 12:13:45 PM

This is more possible.

I can see there is the pcb board inside with the pci plug.

But probably no chip.

Maybe, time will tell.

Probably Neptune will ship before some refunds are processed.

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This is more possible.

I can see there is the pcb board inside with the pci plug.

But probably no chip.

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Quote from: tzortz on June 17, 2014, 12:00:56 PM

How many PCI cables needed?
This is more or less 200Amp, or 10-12 pci 6 pin connectors?

2100W under a single fan?
Can those heat amounts be dissipated through that small construction?

Also, how is the heat being dissipated from the chip?

Water cooling? Or ? ? ?

I'd guess that 5 of those boxes makes a full neptune, so 3000/5=600GH per box. 600*0.7W/GH = 450W per box.

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2100W under a single fan?
Can those heat amounts be dissipated through that small construction?

Looks like 600gh per box.

Not a bad idea to break up the neptune if you ask me.

Gives much more flexibility as 2100w units are just inconvenient.

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In what sense?

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now, refunded customers, are VERY VERY VERY happy Cheesy

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buy silver!

they better ship unassembled...shipping these freaks me out...same fucken tin, is the heatsink tied down, prob not...definately NOT! Another shipping FAIL coming!!!!

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How many PCI cables needed?
This is more or less 200Amp, or 10-12 pci 6 pin connectors?

2100W under a single fan?
Can those heat amounts be dissipated through that small construction?

Also, how is the heat being dissipated from the chip?

Water cooling? Or ? ? ?

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Quote from: dropt on June 17, 2014, 11:37:22 AM

20nm @ ~0.7W/GH

Talk about a fail.

On another note: I really hope there's more than one (1) 6-pin PCI-E plug per box.

According to a photo posted here previously (within the last few days) there is only one power connection per PCB.

I predict something similar to the Oct 'caps on fire' production delay when the cables carrying 400W each start to fail outside of the test environment.

When (not If) any one of the 6 wires has a poor crimp or stretched socket it will not be pretty.

YMMV

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Quote from: 1Neptune on June 17, 2014, 11:44:33 AM

Quote from: Tigggger on June 17, 2014, 11:26:08 AM

And an official update...

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-94

Neptune In Assembly.

We’re pleased to announce touch-down of the first batch of our new 20 nanometer Neptune processors. They are now going through the testing/tweaking/assembly stage in Sweden and shipping will commence this week.

A World First 20-Nanometer Design
The Neptune is a formidable technological achievement. It is the first commercially available 20 nanometer processor shipped to end users. KnCMiner can take pride in beating all competitors to the 20nm stage, including the likes of Intel, Apple and Samsung.

The Neptune is a 1440-core 55x55 mm package tailor-made for the Bitcoin market. Each Neptune consists of 5 chips and comes in new sturdier enclosure and packacing. Using the speed offered by a true 20nm die process each Neptune churns out more than 3 TH/s while consuming only 2.1 KW at the wall. That works out to 0,7 watts per GH/s or less.

However, there are margins built into our design and the software running our chips can only improve from today on. All future software updates to raise the hashing speed will be free of charge.

Software Updates
We've reached our initial targets on speed and power consumption. But as this is the first day we’ve had the Neptune in our lab our technicians have already implemented a few tricks to increase hashing speed and we’ll release updates to our firmware shortly.

The first two batches of the Neptune miner is all sold-out. Batch three is available for pre-order now in our web shop. Watch this space for more info on upcoming products based on our new state-of-the-art 20nm design process.

We expect to ship to Batch 1 pre-order customers this week and to Batch 2 pre-order customers before the end of the month.

Those are enclosures with fans only. No electronics it seems. Okay, might be in assembly but if they're shipping by the end of this week, why no specs so people can get power supplies? Something still isn't right with all this.

Looks like the power connector is on the side.

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Quote from: Tigggger on June 17, 2014, 11:26:08 AM

And an official update...

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-94

https://www.kncminer.com/userfiles/image/First_Neptune_Assembled_blog_500.jpg

Neptune In Assembly.

We’re pleased to announce touch-down of the first batch of our new 20 nanometer Neptune processors. They are now going through the testing/tweaking/assembly stage in Sweden and shipping will commence this week.

A World First 20-Nanometer Design
The Neptune is a formidable technological achievement. It is the first commercially available 20 nanometer processor shipped to end users. KnCMiner can take pride in beating all competitors to the 20nm stage, including the likes of Intel, Apple and Samsung.

The Neptune is a 1440-core 55x55 mm package tailor-made for the Bitcoin market. Each Neptune consists of 5 chips and comes in new sturdier enclosure and packacing. Using the speed offered by a true 20nm die process each Neptune churns out more than 3 TH/s while consuming only 2.1 KW at the wall. That works out to 0,7 watts per GH/s or less.

However, there are margins built into our design and the software running our chips can only improve from today on. All future software updates to raise the hashing speed will be free of charge.

Software Updates
We've reached our initial targets on speed and power consumption. But as this is the first day we’ve had the Neptune in our lab our technicians have already implemented a few tricks to increase hashing speed and we’ll release updates to our firmware shortly.

The first two batches of the Neptune miner is all sold-out. Batch three is available for pre-order now in our web shop. Watch this space for more info on upcoming products based on our new state-of-the-art 20nm design process.

We expect to ship to Batch 1 pre-order customers this week and to Batch 2 pre-order customers before the end of the month.

Nice, but my Batch 1 preorder was $13200, which is $4/GH-no bargain. However, KnC could increase market share if they want by being price flexible.
3TH machine from the stock NOW for $4000-4499 would be attractive (I realize that this is impossible until they fulfill batch 1 and 2).
Batch 3 is still overpriced considering that it will be shipping in a month and a half. You can get 3TH for ~6K easily right now (one and a half month early).

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Quote from: Tigggger on June 17, 2014, 11:26:08 AM

And an official update...

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-94

Neptune In Assembly.

We’re pleased to announce touch-down of the first batch of our new 20 nanometer Neptune processors. They are now going through the testing/tweaking/assembly stage in Sweden and shipping will commence this week.

A World First 20-Nanometer Design
The Neptune is a formidable technological achievement. It is the first commercially available 20 nanometer processor shipped to end users. KnCMiner can take pride in beating all competitors to the 20nm stage, including the likes of Intel, Apple and Samsung.

The Neptune is a 1440-core 55x55 mm package tailor-made for the Bitcoin market. Each Neptune consists of 5 chips and comes in new sturdier enclosure and packacing. Using the speed offered by a true 20nm die process each Neptune churns out more than 3 TH/s while consuming only 2.1 KW at the wall. That works out to 0,7 watts per GH/s or less.

However, there are margins built into our design and the software running our chips can only improve from today on. All future software updates to raise the hashing speed will be free of charge.

Software Updates
We've reached our initial targets on speed and power consumption. But as this is the first day we’ve had the Neptune in our lab our technicians have already implemented a few tricks to increase hashing speed and we’ll release updates to our firmware shortly.

The first two batches of the Neptune miner is all sold-out. Batch three is available for pre-order now in our web shop. Watch this space for more info on upcoming products based on our new state-of-the-art 20nm design process.

We expect to ship to Batch 1 pre-order customers this week and to Batch 2 pre-order customers before the end of the month.

Those are enclosures with fans only. No electronics it seems. Okay, might be in assembly but if they're shipping by the end of this week, why no specs so people can get power supplies? Something still isn't right with all this.

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Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom

so happy i paid 13.5btc and got 27.5 refunded

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LIR DEV

Huh, well well well.... Guess I was right about 20nm tape-out times huh Avenger?
All those nasty comments about how I didn't know what I was talking about, and here they are only a few days later.
That's okay, I forgive you; but I'll take this opportunity to say: "Hahahahahahaa... what a troll"

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5 boxes, easier to RMA one piece at a time

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20nm @ ~0.7W/GH

Talk about a fail.

On another note: I really hope there's more than one (1) 6-pin PCI-E plug per box.

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Quote from: Tigggger on June 17, 2014, 11:26:08 AM

And an official update...

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-94

Neptune In Assembly.

We’re pleased to announce touch-down of the first batch of our new 20 nanometer Neptune processors. They are now going through the testing/tweaking/assembly stage in Sweden and shipping will commence this week.

A World First 20-Nanometer Design
The Neptune is a formidable technological achievement. It is the first commercially available 20 nanometer processor shipped to end users. KnCMiner can take pride in beating all competitors to the 20nm stage, including the likes of Intel, Apple and Samsung.

The Neptune is a 1440-core 55x55 mm package tailor-made for the Bitcoin market. Each Neptune consists of 5 chips and comes in new sturdier enclosure and packacing. Using the speed offered by a true 20nm die process each Neptune churns out more than 3 TH/s while consuming only 2.1 KW at the wall. That works out to 0,7 watts per GH/s or less.

However, there are margins built into our design and the software running our chips can only improve from today on. All future software updates to raise the hashing speed will be free of charge.

Software Updates
We've reached our initial targets on speed and power consumption. But as this is the first day we’ve had the Neptune in our lab our technicians have already implemented a few tricks to increase hashing speed and we’ll release updates to our firmware shortly.

The first two batches of the Neptune miner is all sold-out. Batch three is available for pre-order now in our web shop. Watch this space for more info on upcoming products based on our new state-of-the-art 20nm design process.

We expect to ship to Batch 1 pre-order customers this week and to Batch 2 pre-order customers before the end of the month.

I was looking int purchasing some of these a while ago. Is it worth still buying from KNCMiner in the next batches after all the commotion that is occurring?

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