any smart-ass comments now?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
others got them a week sooner
You owned yourself here.
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You owned yourself here.
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any smart-ass comments now?
Last week:
any smart-ass comments now?
Tag team trolling - awesome, shill away, losers.
Your point even strengthens my position, because wafers need made before they can get sliced & packaged.
I agree with you Phoenix. Based on past Jupiter performance, KNC is likely to start shipping Neptunes later this month.
The delay from tape out to fab complete on Titan wafers is likely to be a lot shorter than the Jupiter because KNC has more production experience and because there are issues of fab scheduling involved. Its anybody's guess how they've scheduled Titan wafer production, but i'll bet they were pretty aggressive about it. I think we'll see the first Titans ship in July.
Its going to be fun to watch Avenger, RoadStress and their gang 'o gentlemen trying to come up with CYA excuses for themselves.
Does anybody know the current estimated shipping data for the Titan, anything more precise than Q2/Q3?
Considering they took about 3 months from tapeout to the release of Jupiter, I would estimate the Titan being released late August/early September, which coincides with KNC's marketing strategic plan of: give possible release dates but wait to the last minute possible to actually deliver.
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
Wafer fab complete 17 Sept http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/2233-chip-news
Alot better than hearing the whiner.
you saw the sept 17th news?
Dude. Wafer fab is one thing and tape out is a totally different thing! Is that so hard to get it?
Sad. I bet Phonie X is hoping to get a free Titan if he whores for kfc again. Probably not, because knc are cheap bastards. Does anybody know the current estimated shipping data for the Titan, anything more precise than Q2/Q3?
Considering they took about 3 months from tapeout to the release of Jupiter, I would estimate the Titan being released late August/early September, which coincides with KNC's marketing strategic plan of: give possible release dates but wait to the last minute possible to actually deliver.
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
Wafer fab complete 17 Sept http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/2233-chip-news
Alot better than hearing the whiner.
you saw the sept 17th news?
Dude. Wafer fab is one thing and tape out is a totally different thing! Is that so hard to get it?
Your point even strengthens my position, because wafers need made before they can get sliced & packaged.
Does anybody know the current estimated shipping data for the Titan, anything more precise than Q2/Q3?
Considering they took about 3 months from tapeout to the release of Jupiter, I would estimate the Titan being released late August/early September, which coincides with KNC's marketing strategic plan of: give possible release dates but wait to the last minute possible to actually deliver.
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
Wafer fab complete 17 Sept http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/2233-chip-news
Alot better than hearing the whiner.
you saw the sept 17th news?
Dude. Wafer fab is one thing and tape out is a totally different thing! Is that so hard to get it?
Does anybody know the current estimated shipping data for the Titan, anything more precise than Q2/Q3?
Considering they took about 3 months from tapeout to the release of Jupiter, I would estimate the Titan being released late August/early September, which coincides with KNC's marketing strategic plan of: give possible release dates but wait to the last minute possible to actually deliver.
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
Wafer fab complete 17 Sept http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/2233-chip-news
Alot better than hearing the whiner.
Does anybody know the current estimated shipping data for the Titan, anything more precise than Q2/Q3?
Considering they took about 3 months from tapeout to the release of Jupiter, I would estimate the Titan being released late August/early September, which coincides with KNC's marketing strategic plan of: give possible release dates but wait to the last minute possible to actually deliver.
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
Wafer fab complete 17 Sept http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/2233-chip-news
Initial shipment completed 28 Oct http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/15393-news-update
Neptune fab complete 2 June http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/44983-the-neptune-wafers-have-left-the-building
Initial Neptune shipment starts ? late June imo
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
They didn't tape out the Jupiter in September. No way! First Jupiters shipped right at September's end/October start so can't have 1 week from tape out to shipping products.
kfc announced at the end of July they taped out "ages ago".
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2832504
So that suggests... June? So June to October is how many months?
*Bookmarked for future reference...
You don't remember when KNC delivered double spec when others failed... like HashFast and Cointerra?
Their machines did indeed work 1st go-around, when so-called "Experts" in Silicon Valley outsourced PCB design and totally failed!
We shall see about that.
You don't remember when KNC delivered double spec when others failed... like HashFast and Cointerra?
Their machines did indeed work 1st go-around, when so-called "Experts" in Silicon Valley outsourced PCB design and totally failed!
We shall see about that.
I remember when KnC promised that they won't self-mine with more than 5% of the hashrate sold...
they left fab here: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-36
^nearly an identical announcement like we just got for Neptune.
^nearly an identical announcement like we just got for Neptune.
Leaving fab doesn't mean they taped-out.
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
They didn't tape out the Jupiter in September. No way! First Jupiters shipped right at September's end/October start so can't have 1 week from tape out to shipping products.
kfc announced at the end of July they taped out "ages ago".
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2832504
So that suggests... June? So June to October is how many months?
they left fab here: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-36
^nearly an identical announcement like we just got for Neptune.
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
They didn't tape out the Jupiter in September. No way! First Jupiters shipped right at September's end/October start so can't have 1 week from tape out to shipping products.
kfc announced at the end of July they taped out "some time ago".
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2832504
So that suggests... June? So June to October is how many months?
I think KNC said there were still alot of steps until tape out was done "but its in the process" of taping-out.
Yes. The whole engineering process has to happen, which is not just "tweaking" like they write in their newsletters. KNC are very good at marketing and misleading people. But they suck pretty badly at real world engineering and dealing with real world problems. Anyone who expects to see a 3TH+ Netpune this month is DREAMINGYou don't remember when KNC delivered double spec when others failed... like HashFast and Cointerra?
Their machines did indeed work 1st go-around, when so-called "Experts" in Silicon Valley outsourced PCB design and totally failed!
We shall see about that.
I think KNC said there were still alot of steps until tape out was done "but its in the process" of taping-out.
Yes. The whole engineering process has to happen, which is not just "tweaking" like they write in their newsletters. KNC are very good at marketing and misleading people. But they suck pretty badly at real world engineering and dealing with real world problems. Anyone who expects to see a 3TH+ Netpune this month is DREAMINGWhere did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
They didn't tape out the Jupiter in September. No way! First Jupiters shipped right at September's end/October start so can't have 1 week from tape out to shipping products.
Does anybody know the current estimated shipping data for the Titan, anything more precise than Q2/Q3?
Considering they took about 3 months from tapeout to the release of Jupiter, I would estimate the Titan being released late August/early September, which coincides with KNC's marketing strategic plan of: give possible release dates but wait to the last minute possible to actually deliver.
Where did you get that TOTAL MISINFORMATION from?
They taped put Jupiter on September 17th last year, and I had my machines by October 15th.
others got them a week sooner
Sam's explanation of not wanting to pay the full USD value was
Wow, KNC are disgusting greedy scum-fucks. Your investment may go up or down, but Sam is shitting his pants about losing a few BTC.
knc got most of their Jupiter orders when btc was $100 and shipped when btc was $1000. Did they give refunds to make up the difference???!?!!!!
Geesus, knc are pathetic. How the fuck can anyone invest in these pigs when it's so obvious they want to slaughter you, but not lose a dime themselves.
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May 22
to Neal
Ok
So as this was a USD value based transaction, how about you send us back the 410 BTC and then we will recalculate and send again.
As far as I can see you used us to hedge the price of BTC paying only a fraction of the coins we have sent you. This was not the terms you agreed to you agreed to when purchasing so if you want to take this further feel free, but you will receive no more coins from us.
Thanks,
Sam
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Sam Cole
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20
to Neal
Ok
So as this was a USD value based transaction, how about you send us back the 410 BTC and then we will recalculate and send again.
As far as I can see you used us to hedge the price of BTC paying only a fraction of the coins we have sent you. This was not the terms you agreed to you agreed to when purchasing so if you want to take this further feel free, but you will receive no more coins from us.
Thanks,
Sam
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Sam Cole
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20
Wow, KNC are disgusting greedy scum-fucks. Your investment may go up or down, but Sam is shitting his pants about losing a few BTC.
knc got most of their Jupiter orders when btc was $100 and shipped when btc was $1000. Did they give refunds to make up the difference???!?!!!!
Quote
This was not the terms you agreed to you agreed to when purchasing so if you want to take this further feel free, but you will receive no more coins from us.
What does this mean? We lost out rather than you lost out, which makes us angry? Actually, that's typical of knc's attitude.Geesus, knc are pathetic. How the fuck can anyone invest in these pigs when it's so obvious they want to slaughter you, but not lose a dime themselves.
On April 11 I cancelled our most recent order from kncminer. On April 24 I received a "refund" that is short of the correct amount by more than $6,000 USD. I've gone round and round with support staff about this, and the final word (from Sam) is that they have no intention of paying me one cent more.
Sorry to pile on to this, but I thought it best to let you all know.
Sorry to pile on to this, but I thought it best to let you all know.
Can you explain how this came to be for the benefit of others who may be facing similar fraudulence?
sorry to hear they raped you too - the fearful part is we are going to get used to it and start liking it...
Yes please elaborate, I'd guess that the disputed amount revolves around the change in BTC price, OP is trying to get the same amount of BTC back that he paid, but KNC have refunded the $ amount, in which case there is no scam.
Quite the opposite, actually. I paid during the first batch of orders when the price of bitcoins was around $830 USD. The purchase price was $203,320 USD. I requested a refund when it was around $480 USD. They used $495 USD as the exchange rate to compute my refund, even though it wasn't trading anywhere near there, thereby shorting my refund (see the refund at https://blockchain.info/address/1FCBP2nNjWE5CnSxqdpBW33RAeVJ1RGQWx)
Since that time the exchange rate has increased, and they are claiming that they don't owe me any more. Their support said things like
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Anna (kncminer)
Apr 24 18:37
Hello,
The bitcoin exchange rate at the time of refund was 495 USD.
We will not be refunding any additional funds on this matter.
Best regards |
Med vänlig hälsning
Anna Jagdhar
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20
Apr 24 18:37
Hello,
The bitcoin exchange rate at the time of refund was 495 USD.
We will not be refunding any additional funds on this matter.
Best regards |
Med vänlig hälsning
Anna Jagdhar
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20
and
Quote
Hello Neal,
You have paid for your orders in bitcoins and you actually paid much less bitcoins that you have received from us:
11707 - 121.96 BTC and have been refunded 205.37 BTC
12008 - 121.56 BTC and have been refunded 205.37 BTC
You have received 167.22 BTC more than you actually paid for the order.
Best regards |
Med vänlig hälsning
Anna Jagdhar
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20
You have paid for your orders in bitcoins and you actually paid much less bitcoins that you have received from us:
11707 - 121.96 BTC and have been refunded 205.37 BTC
12008 - 121.56 BTC and have been refunded 205.37 BTC
You have received 167.22 BTC more than you actually paid for the order.
Best regards |
Med vänlig hälsning
Anna Jagdhar
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20
Sam's explanation of not wanting to pay the full USD value was
Quote
May 22
to Neal
Ok
So as this was a USD value based transaction, how about you send us back the 410 BTC and then we will recalculate and send again.
As far as I can see you used us to hedge the price of BTC paying only a fraction of the coins we have sent you. This was not the terms you agreed to you agreed to when purchasing so if you want to take this further feel free, but you will receive no more coins from us.
Thanks,
Sam
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Sam Cole
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20
to Neal
Ok
So as this was a USD value based transaction, how about you send us back the 410 BTC and then we will recalculate and send again.
As far as I can see you used us to hedge the price of BTC paying only a fraction of the coins we have sent you. This was not the terms you agreed to you agreed to when purchasing so if you want to take this further feel free, but you will receive no more coins from us.
Thanks,
Sam
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Sam Cole
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20
Does anybody know the current estimated shipping data for the Titan, anything more precise than Q2/Q3?
Considering they took about 3 months from tapeout to the release of Jupiter, I would estimate the Titan being released late August/early September, which coincides with KNC's marketing strategic plan of: give possible release dates but wait to the last minute possible to actually deliver.
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