Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 417. (Read 3050075 times)

True. But things being equal rent and maintenance is more expenses.

Not always the case, and it has nothing to do with power supply, it depends on where you are in the world.

Here in the UK $0.20 electric + 20% import duty + fees, mean hosting miners yourself is more expensive than shipping to the USA and getting a company there to do it.

EG An SP10 @ 1200w is about $6 a day in power here, which is exactly what a couple of US hosters charge, you save the import fees and don't have to deal with the noise and heat.

It's a waste of money to pay to host equipment unless you absolutely don't have the power at home available. Live with the heat and noise.

Size is for convenience.  Both units throw out a lot of heat and noise the sp more so because the fans are smaller.

Wouldn't worry about durability so much as both units will be outdated by october.

strange - my jupiters are the coolest & quietest rigs BY FAR..

I got today my replacement controller back from KNC for my Super Jupiters.
There is the fimware: "KnC Jupiter Hosting 1.00-rc14" on it.

Does any one knows whats the difference? Also I was there this bitcoin adress: 1A73ExsM2doRwTLp82rv5U36QHbBFmHD1X
Blockchain means that there are double spends on it. Is it realy possible.

The two super jup´s perfoming on 5900 to 6200. It´s ok for me. Oh and need 9500 Watts. I´m glad, that I got an 25Kwp PV system.

who here is in Queue for refund?

iam waiting a long time, and they always say have people in front of me

scammers

Caveat emptor, buyers who are spending this much money on stuff should really do their research. I looked at pbmining at one time when their rates dropped below hardware costs, but after about 10 minutes reading could see it wasn't a good idea. Same with all these new mining companies popping up.

For me there is only a fairly short list of suppliers & manufacturers I trust now:
Spondoolies, pcfli, Bitmain, peppermining, Technobit, gridseed.

Debatable. Without affiliate marketing we wouldn't allow obvious ponzis like pbmining to thrive.

+1 nothing wrong with referal links in ones sig etc.

I just don't trust anyone shilling for products or services anymore in these forums. I made that mistake once and I won't repeat. The rest of you can take your chances and I wish you the best.

I can't help but feel that the same people who are opposed to referral links are the same guys who say; "such and such band 'sold out'" only because they had a Top 40 hit, lol. Meaning, they are resentful of someone who is successful simply for offering something the someone wants.

I just don't see the harm in it as long as it's appropriate to the topic. In fact, I find it helpful. Recently, I made a significant investment based on information I read on this forum. I purposely sought out the person who was most helpful to me and used his referral link to make my purchase. It didn't cost me a penny more and he was rewarded for being helpful. The only people who "suffered" were the company who's goods/service I purchased because they received 10% less in profit.

Another more recent example, I would have bought from Spondoolies if I had been in the market for more ASICs but for various reasons, I'm not buying more. But if I were, I'd be sure to click Roadstress' referral links because he has made a persuasive sales pitch in their favor. In this scenario, Spondoolies makes a sale they may not have without the extra push from Roadstress. Therefore Roadstress is rewarded for his effort.

PG said they have 3. The picture was 1 of 3 datorhall that they have. Agree with referrals as well. No place for them here.

agree about KnC and their hopeful delusionals. it could be a 20Gh/s unicorn miner but the fact that KnC are shitmongrel cunts means that your continued support of them fucks us all - datorhall 2 wont be far away if indeed it isnt already filled with 20nm magic

disagree about referral links - its against forum rules and like spam in general, cheap & grotty

My favorite absurd pro-KNC argument... "KNC has a spectacular reputation for over-delivering!"

Really, they do? They have shipped a SINGLE product that was over-spec and nearly on-time! And one could argue that KNC deliberately screwed batch one customers by removing 4 VRMs from the October ASIC boards thereby crippling the first batch machines and handicapping the early adopters.

Indeed, the Jupiters were over-spec. But how they screwed customers after that is far more illuminating and sheds more light on what kind of company they really are. Datorhall, FrankenJups, no refund policy on Titan, lack of communication, broken promises, shitty RMA practices, super-slow refunds... I could go on and on. If some people see them as having some kind of glowing reputation after such a shitstorm, I can only assume that they are in total denial or completely delusional.


And on another topic... why such angst about referral links?! No one gets screwed or scammed by clicking a referral link. The affiliate only gets credit if the person who clicks the link actually buys something. And they are charged the same price as everyone (if not less, because of a special promotion). No one is harmed and a member of our hard working community gets rewarded for their efforts.

Sure, spammy posts are annoying. I know firsthand because I got scolded pretty bad by several members of the community for my overzealous efforts in the recent past. But if a post is on-topic and helpful, there is no reason not to include a discrete referral link.

The big deal is that the Neptune isn't worth the money right now. 3TH for 10k+$ is simply not worth it.


SP10 can do 0.7kw/th. SP2 can't do that.

You went the extra mile to make some of what you have "Work" too...  Kudos; and you're also the first person I ever heard that made a dime from a BFL product. You are a true Mining Sensei.

You make it sound like there are a lot better deals on asic machines out there price/power/size  

5 SP10 right now going to a datacenter for 6 mo are ~20K with equipment 13.5K (who wants to have 5 of these in the house? not me).
After 6mo you will make $21.3K or 1.5K profit by Nov 1 if bitcoin stays the same ($668).

KnC: 4.5 TH on July 1 will give you ~11.66 BTC by Nov 1
extra 4.5 TH on Aug 1 will give you ~7 BTC by Nov 1
Total ~18.66 BTC, but with ~$1089 cost of electricity (if 0.12kwh)=$12485-1089=11396, so you still have profit of $1396 if you bought for 10k, not 13.5K.
So, conclusion: if KnC machine is 4.5TH by July and a second equal machine is given free on Aug 1, then you have a small profit in both cases and SAME BTC price.

Small edge to Spond because you don't need to do almost any work as they go to a datacenter, but 4.5TH KnC machines will probably have better resell value (if they are similar to Jupiters in average quality).

I call it a tie or very close.

I've never read such paranoid guff in all my life.
I, for one am an individual with my own opinions and in a world of free speech, i have a right to express them

Jimmithy, you sound like a paranoid, butt hurt, jealous teenager who feels they deserve something out of life because you make the wrong decisions.
Get a life mate. Due dilligence is your friend

when is the lawsuit coming into play, waiting patiently to jump on