Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 418.

btc_uzr

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Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 03:54:19 PM

Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

You are happy that KnCs competes with you as a customer ?

Competition is part of life.

I agree, but nevertheless is it unethical to compete with customers since this leads to a conflict of interest sooner or later.
And when there's a conflict between the perfect happiness of your customers and lining up your pockets we know how greed plays.

I'd prefer a company not competing with me and lining up their pockets by making be happy as far as possible.
KnCMiner is this no more.

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 03:54:19 PM

Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

You may dislike Spongebob for several reasons, but they arenot competing with customers, more responsive and offering good deals as well.

I don't dislike Spondoolies. They seem like they are a very customer focused company with an ok product. I dislike the way some Spondoolies resellers operate. IMO they bring Spondoolies as a company into disrepute.

I know what you mean, their fanclub is hardcore from time to time.
KnC pushed this with their FrankenJups and delayed refunds from my point of view.

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Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

When I read your posts I'm not sure whether you got paid for posting stuff like this or it is some kind of Stockholm syndrome.
Get me right, you are welcome since it's boring

Wrong. But i am glad my posts are entertaining. Just wait till KNC ships the Neptune if you want some real entertainment.

~L)L~

When you were around August/September in here you could see how things reiterate in a certain way.
I do not doubt that Neptune will be the best piece of hardware when finally shipping (at least I hope so for the remaining customers), but the excitement from last year will not be topped for sure.

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Lets assume the Neptune can come in Jul 1, and mine 5 BTC in its life time and the FREE Neptune Sept 1 which would mine 1.5 BTC lifetime.

Id take the refund money and buy some TH riight now is better, even 5 SP10.

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Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 03:54:19 PM

Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

You are happy that KnCs competes with you as a customer ?

Competition is part of life.

Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

You may dislike Spongebob for several reasons, but they arenot competing with customers, more responsive and offering good deals as well.

I don't dislike Spondoolies. They seem like they are a very customer focused company with an ok product. I dislike the way some Spondoolies resellers operate. IMO they bring Spondoolies as a company into disrepute.

Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

When I read your posts I'm not sure whether you got paid for posting stuff like this or it is some kind of Stockholm syndrome.
Get me right, you are welcome since it's boring

Wrong. But i am glad my posts are entertaining. Just wait till KNC ships the Neptune if you want some real entertainment.

~L)L~

Resellers? As far as I know SP-Tech doesn't have any resellers. I'm just a happy customer who wants them to succeed. I was a KnC happy customer last autumn until they ditched the customers who funded all of their operations.

If KnC doesn't ship a 5+Th/s Neptune then it's game over for their customers. 3Th/s for 10k+$ is just shit right now and you are better of with a refund. You could get 3Th/s shipped from stock until last week for only $5,600+shipping. No reason to pay 10k$ for 3Th/s with unknown delivery.

Remember that you are the only "customer" that is pro-KnC. Nobody else that is active here is satisfied with KnC.

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June 2014 Newsletter:
"As we're closing in on tape-out of the Titan"

February 2014 Newsletter:

Quote from: The Avenger on February 14, 2014, 06:57:43 AM

"As we are getting closer to the launch date of Neptune"

Me, yesterday:

Quote from: The Avenger on June 02, 2014, 05:40:25 PM

KNC are such bullshitters, always pretending things are just around the corner.

Just so you know Titanic fans - when knc use any variation of the word "close", it actually translates into english as "about 4-9 months away" Grin

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Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

You are happy that KnCs competes with you as a customer ?

Competition is part of life.

Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

You may dislike Spongebob for several reasons, but they arenot competing with customers, more responsive and offering good deals as well.

I don't dislike Spondoolies. They seem like they are a very customer focused company with an ok product. I dislike the way some Spondoolies resellers operate. IMO they bring Spondoolies as a company into disrepute.

Quote from: btc_uzr on June 03, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

When I read your posts I'm not sure whether you got paid for posting stuff like this or it is some kind of Stockholm syndrome.
Get me right, you are welcome since it's boring

Wrong. But i am glad my posts are entertaining. Just wait till KNC ships the Neptune if you want some real entertainment.

"Under promise and over deliver"

~L)L~

Zelek Uther

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Run a Bitcoin node.

It is "early June", where is the promised 3TH/s cloud hashing (per Neppy order)?

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Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 03:23:19 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on June 03, 2014, 03:11:09 PM

About what? About the fact that the LIED when they said they will self-mine with max 5% of what they sold? About not issuing refunds via bank transfers? About shipping crap FrankJupiters?

… such whining …

Sorry you aren't the only person mining bitcoin now. Did you ever think you would be ?

You're just worried that when KNC ships a killer Neptune product next month that all your SP30 customers are going to want a refund.
What, no refunds on SP30 pre-orders ?

You are happy that KnCs competes with you as a customer ?
Don't they make your btc income less than necessary ?
Every day delay means more btc for them, no conflict of interest ?

I'm KnC customer for a year now and I have no Spongebob order in place until now.
And I'm very pissed about the fact that they are eating some of my btc while I was told "we will not mine with more than 5% of sales" and then running PH/s farm(s) [and more will follow soon, already announced]

You may dislike Spongebob for several reasons, but they arenot competing with customers, more responsive and offering good deals as well.

When I read your posts I'm not sure whether you got paid for posting stuff like this or it is some kind of Stockholm syndrome.
Get me right, you are welcome since it's boring, but everyone with basic math skill like fourth grade figured out that you could never mine that much btc as you would get when refunding below $450 like most of us did.

I guess you missed the train (getting refund while btc was cheap) and are now hoping that your Neptune will do some magic and return (after taxes and electricity bill) more than a refund would have made?

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Quote from: RoadStress on June 03, 2014, 03:35:15 PM

we got that covered

The only thing you are going to worry about covering is all the SP30 refund requests when everybody sees the machine KNC ships next month.

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Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 03:28:35 PM

Dude, get your quotes straight please. My equipment orders are none of your business. I'm a guy who believes in fair play and I don't like the way you and your gang of thugs promote your Spondoolies interests at the expense of other people. How many Neptune customers did you talk into canceling and taking Super-Bloopers anyway ?

Will you be honoring SP30 refund requests ?

So you either don't have a Neptune pre-order or you are a KnC employee. Ok we got that covered.

Now explain me the fair play in KnC's statement of NOT mining with more than 5% of their sold hashrate. Where is the fair play when they are mining with 10% of the TOTAL hashrate?

I hope I convinced a lot of Neptune customers to cancel their order because I DO believe in fair play and I want the best as a miner. Please explain me why would a Neptune customer keep his pre-order when he could get more than 4x the hashrate for the same money? 10k$=1x 3TH/s Neptune vs 2x 6TH SP30 (delivered just one and a half month later if they deliver this month) Ex-squeeze me if I prefer to get 12 TH/s in August for 10k$ than to get 3Th/s at the start of July.

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Dude, get your quotes straight please. My equipment orders are none of your business. I'm a guy who believes in fair play and I don't like the way you and your gang of ~~thugs~~ sweethearts promote your Spondoolies interests at the expense of other people. How many Neptune customers did you talk into canceling and taking Super-Bloopers anyway ?

Will you be honoring SP30 refund requests ?

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Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 03:23:19 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on June 03, 2014, 03:11:09 PM

About what? About the fact that the LIED when they said they will self-mine with max 5% of what they sold? About not issuing refunds via bank transfers? About shipping crap FrankJupiters?

… such whining …

Sorry you aren't the only person mining bitcoin now. Did you ever think you would be ?

You're just worried that when KNC ships a killer Neptune product next month that all your SP30 customers are going to want a refund.
What, no refunds on SP30 pre-orders ?

I can live with the fact that I'm not the only person mining bitcoin, but I can't live with the ~8PH that KnC has in their datacenter (which at this moment is ~10%) which means that all their customers get less revenue.

It seems that you don't want to share how many Neptunes you have on pre-order. Or you are just a shill talking out of his ass without a Neptune ordered?

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Quote from: RoadStress on June 03, 2014, 03:11:09 PM

About what? About the fact that the LIED when they said they will self-mine with max 5% of what they sold? About not issuing refunds via bank transfers? About shipping crap FrankJupiters?

… such whining …

Sorry you aren't the only person mining bitcoin now. Did you ever think you would be ?

You're just worried that when KNC ships a killer Neptune product next month that all your SP30 customers are going to want a refund.
What, no refunds on SP30 pre-orders ?

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btc is up 50% in a month and everybody is cranky ?

I'd say let stronger hands take over the network ...

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Quote from: RoadStress on June 03, 2014, 09:29:52 AM

I would like to jump in.

RoadStress, what makes you think anybody cares what you think ?

Is Spondoolies shipping hearing protectors and asbestos gloves with every SP10 now ?

Don't worry I don't care what you think either, but there are people who care what I think about you and about your words so that's enough.

No need to ship with hearing protectors because my SP10s are going to a cheap DC

How many Neptunes you have on pre-order?

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 11:53:16 AM

Quote from: raskul on June 03, 2014, 11:48:40 AM

Welcome to my ignore.

At last ! Free from the rancorous and snide gaze of the Spondoolies shill.

Now maybe we can have a fact based and thoughtful conversation about KNC.

~L)L~

About what? About the fact that the LIED when they said they will self-mine with max 5% of what they sold? About not issuing refunds via bank transfers? About shipping crap FrankJupiters?

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Quote from: Searing on June 03, 2014, 04:15:59 AM

Quote from: jelin1984 on June 03, 2014, 03:57:23 AM

because of that

the first customers (batch 1) are expected to be hashing in our data center in early June and the last customer will hash in our data center around the last week of June. All the customers will be able to hash in that data center for as long as we are late in shipping your Neptune product, this service will be provided on a best effort basis

did they not say Q1/Q2 which means they have until JUNE 30th to deliver before hashing (or did i miss the memo..no horse in this race just wondering?)

Searing

Why does everyone ignore the facts of this matter? Long before they said Q1/Q2 delivery, they said this:

"We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings."

Everyone is well aware of the fact that Q1/Q2 finishes up on or about June 30th - that has never been disputed. If you take the central point of Q1/Q2 it would fall somewhere around march. They planted the idea of march long before they set the pricing and then confirmed that idea by using the term Q1/Q2. Margins are very tight in this game and I personally don't believe that anyone who paid 12,995 USD for a Neptune expected a delivery in early July. I did the math and figured late march was coincidentally the defining moment for break even (based solely on a Bitcoin in/Bitcoin out basis). When that date sailed by, I requested a refund.

So, did you miss that memo?

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Quote from: merv77 on June 03, 2014, 01:48:18 PM

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 01:29:38 PM

Quote from: merv77 on June 03, 2014, 01:25:36 PM

Q1/Q2 has now passed and KNC hasn't give any indication of shipping anytime soon

Q1/Q2 has ~~now~~ NOT passed. End of Q2 is June 30. Its the beginning of June here. What is the date where you are ?

I do hope you (and other Neptune customers waiting) get your Neptune on time and over spec.

ditto. we should all be hashing the machines we all paid for, in the time we expected to be.

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Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 01:29:38 PM

Quote from: merv77 on June 03, 2014, 01:25:36 PM

Q1/Q2 has now passed and KNC hasn't give any indication of shipping anytime soon

Q1/Q2 has ~~now~~ NOT passed. End of Q2 is June 30. Its the beginning of June here. What is the date where you are ?

sorry my mistake Embarrassed

I guess I am stupid after all Tongue

then there's still a chance you'll get you killer Neptune on time
hey, really not against you and I do hope you (and other Neptune customers waiting) get your Neptune on time and over spec.

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Quote from: SgtMoth on June 03, 2014, 01:44:01 PM

let me point out, that I am hashing and you are waiting...(and praying for more than 6 t/h)

in your dreams Bubba !

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Im thankful for the ignore button, btw As shitty as these boards are, let me point out, that I am hashing and you are waiting...(and praying for more than 6 t/h)

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Quote from: SgtMoth on June 03, 2014, 01:17:17 PM

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 03, 2014, 12:40:22 PM

SgtMoth, I'll say the same thing to you I said to Helmax

If you hadn't fallen under the spell of the various self serving people here spreading FUD about KNC, you would still have your Neptune order(s) and be looking forward to a killer box delivered on time soon.

I can't help you out with the BFL angst ...

you really are new and stupid...If you read this thread, you would know..but just for you I will recap...I wanted refund, I ordered through buddy in states, the only refund I could get at the time was bank transfer, it would have went to my buddy in states/he would have to pay taxes, so out come offer for jupiter, I jump because I know network is moving fast upwards. End of fkn story, I wont pre order anymore....YOU should be worried about your NEPTUNE!

For 2 fuckn weeks, I have been trying to get a beaglebone RMA and for 2 fkn weeks, Ive been given the run around. So, I will not send any broken boards back and Ive given up on getting RMA for this beaglebone. DO you want emails, oh thats right, I have already posted them, go back and fkn read loser.

BFL, I ordered very early, got my order very early, made lots of money...lots....bfl is a piece of shit company and I feel deeply sorry for anyone who ordered late.

btw...ALL, Thats right, All my bfl STILL runs

I'm sure there is a group help anger management club for people like you Sarg … try google.

Plus … I recommend putting a few of the self serving SP-pimps on this thread on ignore … you will recover a lot faster.

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