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Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 522. (Read 3050075 times)

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Someone is sitting in the shade today...
Who would know the difficulty would be 1000x harder now than last spring.  Even though the btc price increased 6x.
Most informed miners should have known the difficulty would be 1000x more than last spring; this is why so many of us tried to warn newer miners - they just didn't listen and assumed we just wanted the mining to ourselves. The price no one can predict though.

actually that's not true, most "informed" miners were saying this average 20% increase is unsustainable and not realistic, when few others including myself showed the actual calculator using a profitability decline of 0.001 (20%).

the truth is as long as there is money to be made, the hardware will be produced, resulting in sustained difficulty increase.  Only way for difficulty to slow down is if the hardware cost basis becomes unprofitable - and that solely depends on the btc/usd price.  If we have a long period of $350/btc, then yes you will see difficulty slow down as hardware production/sales slows.  But at the current level, there is no end in sight. Especially with all those new comers pumping out hardware in the THs range now.

The current difficulty is only ~59000TH, 20% is 11800TH, that may seemed like a significant hash power in the old days, but with the new 2-3 TH per unit miners from all the manufacturers. It's really not that much.

The only sure way to predict difficulty is looking at btc/usd.

I am also now a big fan of cex.io, their prices have come down to a level that's very competitive/better than physical hardware, without any of the mining risk, and ability to quickly unload at a moment's notice is invaluable. Doubt i will ever buy another physical miner unless there is a 20%+ discount to the cex price.

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Owner, Minersource.net
Still waiting on a refund, I was told my bank information was wrong and they would charge me for the wire fee, but the funny thing is we have received intl wires from their exact bank using the same information... not exactly happy.
sr. member
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glad i refunded my Neptune at ~$1100 months ago. Since i could refund i looked at it like cashing out with the option of taking a neptune if things went well. If not it was like cashing out at the top
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Any details how Incan install the extra ports at Jupiter board?

Jellin! We've all been waiting for your reply, did you come your pants, and/or fall off your scooter like was speculated?

legendary
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Any details how Incan install the extra ports at Jupiter board?
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Poor impulse control.
Who would know the difficulty would be 1000x harder now than last spring.  Even though the btc price increased 6x.
Most informed miners should have known the difficulty would be 1000x more than last spring; this is why so many of us tried to warn newer miners - they just didn't listen and assumed we just wanted the mining to ourselves. The price no one can predict though.

Exactly. But most newer miners are just blinded and defeaned by greed.

different to the old miners who just wanted to contribute, help and give...    Cheesy

Or the old miners who burnt out their ability to contribute, help and give.
legendary
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Who would know the difficulty would be 1000x harder now than last spring.  Even though the btc price increased 6x.
Most informed miners should have known the difficulty would be 1000x more than last spring; this is why so many of us tried to warn newer miners - they just didn't listen and assumed we just wanted the mining to ourselves. The price no one can predict though.

Exactly. But most newer miners are just blinded and defeaned by greed.

different to the old miners who just wanted to contribute, help and give...    Cheesy
legendary
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Who would know the difficulty would be 1000x harder now than last spring.  Even though the btc price increased 6x.
Most informed miners should have known the difficulty would be 1000x more than last spring; this is why so many of us tried to warn newer miners - they just didn't listen and assumed we just wanted the mining to ourselves. The price no one can predict though.

Exactly. But most newer miners are just blinded and defeaned by greed.
legendary
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1 BTC =1 BTC
KNC not responding to support questions/mail anymore ?
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KNC took a stellar reputation and turned it to shit in record time.  How did they manage that?

 KNC don't believe in their products, nor do they want to take any responsibility for them. That should be a massive red flag for anybody thinking about ordering from them.

If... we'll start to see all these parasites die off.
tl/dr KNC are assholes Grin

Man, that is harsh stuff.  

I wonder if KnC really doesn't believe in their products.  I wonder why 'no refunds', 'no warranty' strategy has developed. I agree that is a big red flag of sorts.  
If you got a October Jupiter last year with faulty die0 boards, KNC refused to act legitimately and take responsibility to replace them straight away - at their cost - which is how it should be for a manufacturer who ships faulty goods.

They took a stance that forced us customers to hold onto their faulty equipment. They made it so that it cost them nothing, while it would cost customers thousands of dollars in loses/downtime to resolve the problem caused by knc poor engineering/very poor quality standards. That, after many of us already lost thousands of dollars due to them shipping late.

As they are now selling these boards at $350 - which is no doubt still making them a profit - it's pretty clear the COST of these boards is a lot less than $350. What do we reckon - $200? About 150 euros??

So it just goes to show how disgusting their treatment of customers was in the past. They could have replaced 4 faulty boards at a cost to them of about $800, but decided to fuck everyone with faulty boards instead.

tl/dr - KNC are greedy scum who like nothing better than to fuck their customers to line their own pockets.

still tl/dr - KNC are greedy parasites. The host is rejecting them now!
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gotta let a coin be a coin
... oh, I didnt see that before.... upgrade modules, 6000 dollar neptunes and mini neptunes....  must be an announcement coming soon....

bro, I don't think anyone here is buying their garbage anymore. we don't care
legendary
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KNC took a stellar reputation and turned it to shit in record time.  How did they manage that?

 KNC don't believe in their products, nor do they want to take any responsibility for them. That should be a massive red flag for anybody thinking about ordering from them.

If... we'll start to see all these parasites die off.
tl/dr KNC are assholes Grin

Man, that is harsh stuff. 

I wonder if KnC really doesn't believe in their products.  I wonder why 'no refunds', 'no warranty' strategy has developed. I agree that is a big red flag of sorts. 
sr. member
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"parasites die", AND HOW!!!

Shit baggers are dragging their feet on refunds too, KnC = POS cork-suckers who want your money so they can ram it up to your neck. DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY, Let them DIE!
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Shipment begins one month after Batch 2
This is the same as "after the second Tuesday of next week"

KNC took a stellar reputation and turned it to shit in record time.  How did they manage that?

Because they got lucky once shooting fish in a barrel and then concluded they were fucking geniuses? Then proceeded to fuck all their existing customers, thinking they would always have new suckers who would buy.

Knobtune is now totally unattractive, except for those going the distance with massive datacentre's in Iceland (i.e. no one).

Now that the btc market has tanked, they are only getting orders in the 100's, rather than 1000's. Like every bunch of "geniuses", when things started to go bad, they decided to invest big. Lot's of advertising and lots of capital investment.

Now they have to break all their products down into smaller and smaller pieces to try to suck in the newbies, BFL style. They are desperately trying to cut costs by selling shit with 90 day warranty (i.e. a warranty suitable for used or refurbished goods) or no warranty at all. That and the "no refunds" policy makes the risks wayyyyy to great for any reasonable investor. KNC don't believe in their products, nor do they want to take any responsibility for them. That should be a massive red flag for anybody thinking about ordering from them.

They have made every classic mistake in the book through greed and ignorance. Their ego's got the better of them.

The market for btc hardware is quite small, but knc figured it was enormous and they could cut the throat of all their existing customers and it wouldn't matter. Well, we'll see how that goes for them.

If the price of BTC stays low for long enough, we'll start to see all these parasites die off.

Wooo hooo!




tl/dr KNC are assholes Grin
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Clueless!
does anyone have a flash file other than 0.96.1, fkn support wont help me unlock my jupiter or sell me a new controler.

When you say help you unlock do you mean password unlock? I had this problem with one I purchased and I did the reset procedure and I could get in, can't say for sure it reset the password or it was already stock but the seller was under the impression he had changed it..

In any case all firmwares are posted to the support page, all the way back to 0.9.0


ya, i updated and locked myself out, the hard reset doesnt reset my password.  Im not sure how to open those bin files up, to load them on a sd stick. can you just put the bin file on there and boot it up.  ive flashed this jupiter bout 20 times already.

I just did a hard reset..took a few tries...touchy....but when it takes it asks for a new password...i had version 1.00 and it reverted to 1.00
after the hard restart not .95 which is what I think came with the miner FYI

all i got hope it helps...keep trying the hard reset

er also I tried a different IP on my router then the one used previous to this...not sure if this applies...weird changed IP on me somehow on the
hard reset (unless that was my orig IP can't remember)

Searing
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Shipment begins one month after Batch 2
This is the same as "after the second Tuesday of next week"

KNC took a stellar reputation and turned it to shit in record time.  How did they manage that?
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" of course on the other hand 16.2TH in August for 21k ...this is likely what got KNC all hot and bothered imho

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/

what is that 4 batch 3 neptunes at 3th each you get for the same price only what 12th?

interesting times

Searing "

In August difficulty 30-40B?
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buy silver!
does anyone have a flash file other than 0.96.1, fkn support wont help me unlock my jupiter or sell me a new controler.

When you say help you unlock do you mean password unlock? I had this problem with one I purchased and I did the reset procedure and I could get in, can't say for sure it reset the password or it was already stock but the seller was under the impression he had changed it..

In any case all firmwares are posted to the support page, all the way back to 0.9.0


ya, i updated and locked myself out, the hard reset doesnt reset my password.  Im not sure how to open those bin files up, to load them on a sd stick. can you just put the bin file on there and boot it up.  ive flashed this jupiter bout 20 times already.
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Clueless!
My CA Batch Neptune: "Refund ready for process"

same here,  

maybe our 2 refund requests have cause panic at KNC headquarters   Grin Grin Grin

I think KNC are not liking all the negative publicity... become assholes and get treated like assholes.   Love it when this happens  Cheesy Grin

some guy on knc forums got an email he sent me a copy ...saying that he had to stop bashing knc from a forum moderator

the bashing consisted of saying they were doing a gh farm at the determent of getting modules and miners out to us ...pretty tame

so if you are legit at knc and trying to get stuff out the door (like this last fall) such comments about progress are OK in that they are understandable

but if you are NOT trying anymore....and trying to play both ends against the middle ...gh farm and wrap up your hardware stuff...that is no longer understandable

the slow slide to becoming BFL continues imho

of course on the other hand 16.2TH in August for 21k ...this is likely what got KNC all hot and bothered imho

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/

what is that 4 batch 3 neptunes at 3th each you get for the same price only what 12th?

interesting times

Searing

Here's my KNC Refund. Nice of KNC to convert my BTC @ $1,000/coin




Jesus Christ ....it is frigging hashing on the spaceship from '2001 a space odyssey (pretty pic you have there you fiend!)

damn it

I knew Hal the computer was behind all this hype!

"Hello Dave......I'm sorry Dave you can't hash....

Searing
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Glow Stick Dance!
Here's my KNC Refund. Nice of KNC to convert my BTC @ $1,000/coin


What are those?
~1.1 PH Ant S2
Too cool!

Lol!  Only 11THs not 1.1PHs.  I guess math isn't your strong suit.  Wink

Made me feel really cool for a minute though!

11THs is still really cool!
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